Mathieu finalizing deal with Saints
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Tyrann Mathieu is expected to finalize a deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a>, per <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a>. The Honey Badger is coming home.</p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1521116974734098432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Predicting that it’s embarrassing low

Bye

Bet it's 1 year 7.5m

Reunited with Daniel Sorenson. The dream team at safety.

He may not want to tackle anymore, but he’s really good at throwing his hands up in the air when someone ****s up and complaining about the fans on Twitter.

Not sure how we’ll replace his intangibles.

More opportunities to raise his hands in anger..

Is he going to be their goal line judge?

Unfortunately doesn't seem like it's going to be completed before the deadline for comp pick valuation.

Isn't the deadline for that May 10?

Note to HB: When a player makes "business decisions" all season, NFL teams will also make "business decisions" after the season.

This is what I could find... claimed to be from the 2020 CBA...

[A] Compensatory Free Agent (“CFA”) shall be defined as an Unrestricted Free Agent (“UFA”) who: (i) signed with a new Club during the prior free agency signing period […] prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the Monday following the NFL Draft for that League Year1 […]; and (ii) ranked within the top 35%2 of all League players […]. Clubs that lose to other Clubs a greater number of CFAs than they sign or acquire from other Clubs shall be eligible to receive a Compensatory Draft Selection in the College Draft to be held in the following League Year subject to the provisions set forth below.

So the cutoff is 4PM Eastern today it sounds like...

I thought that it was the draft. I remember last year, the Steelers had an agreement in place to sign Villaneu (so?) right after the draft because of the comp pick cutoff.

Most of what I've seen is today. And going back through history, it's typically been on a Monday so May 10th wouldn't make much sense.

Under the new CBA, the deadline is the Monday after the draft.

So, of course they will do the official paperwork after 4:00. That sucks.

Guy had it all in KC.
kids loved it
Girlfriend/partnerperson had a retail store

Blew off a great life and after football future cause his ego ate his brains


probably be dead broke in 10 years

I would feel like it would be in the best interest of the league to cut down on these types of contracts... what are essentially pre-arranged deals that are negotiated and agreed to beforehand and then signed after the deadline. It's essentially another type of tampering. It seems there's a couple contracts every year like this and Villanueva... oh well. It is what it is.

Yeah….I’m pretty sure he won’t be dead broke.

WTF?

I'm grateful for Tyrann...he was the heart and soul of a Super Bowl-winning team. I'm glad it worked out for him to go to New Orleans. But our secondary is now MUCH better than it was last year.

Win-win

Vaginadger

If he broke his dick here? You can leave one of those roadside memorials somewhere you feel adequate

Wouldn’t really matter about the comp picks because we signed MVS which would cancel out

Perfect.
Unless you are a Saints fan.

After this draft i dont give a single shit about Honey Vadger. I feel like they course corrected in part because of HV. They went and got guys that TACKLE. He did not do that last year.

The only way you can save this post is by posting the pickle gif.

All of our great safeties seem to become headcases during their final year here. He gave us several years of elite play and a Super Bowl ring ... I'll take it!

Nah. He will get a 3 year deal, but nothing guaranteed after year 1. It’ll be an inflated big number that’s reported. Wait for structure.

Thank God that's over with won't have to hear people say "bring back Tyrann"

Thanks for the memories.

Over/Under on how many times he signals "Touchdown" while playing with Sorenson.

Eh..."much" better? We lost Ward and Matthieu. Have brought in some good replacements but not sure it's even better at all. Kind of just hoping we maintain status quo. Probably the best thing to happen to this secondary was losing Sorenson.

JFC guys, do you not understand that the Chiefs simply didn't want him? They knew they were done with him before last season even started.

This has nothing to do with what Tyran wanted or "business decisions".

The Chiefs made the proper evaluation to move on.

My number one issue with the secondary was a lack of engagement and unwillingness to hit. Tackling was terrible. Every single guy they picked up, either in FA (Reid) or the draft is a hard-hitting finisher.

We lost Ward, HB thought he was worth more money than he is. He was better when he first got here. I feel that we upgraded safety as we have added someone that is faster than HB and is a team player as well.

We won't know if we are better as a secondary until we see them play together. We added a lot of younger faster pieces to the secondary so there is hope.

We added depth at CB and even more depth at Safety. We now have 3 safeties that should be able to play Spags defense and not be a liability in pass coverage. Yet this is just speculation until we see them play.

If this was Veach waiting until signing a guy until after 4 PM.....you'd be calling this a good move. Just because we're ****ed out of a comp pick...it's not.

I'm not sure how things would balance out, actually. We lost a lot of free agents this year, but we signed several too. We lost Ward, Tyrann, Sorensen, Pringle, Reed, Robinson off the top of my head. But he signed Reid, MVS, JJSS, Jones, Stallworth, and others. Honey Badger going before the deadline could have possibly been enough to balance the scales in our favor. I mean, Ward should get us a 4th I would think. Unless one of our other signings cancels it out.

A nomad that will create a reason to roll on. Could be the pattern. Doesn't make him bad

Well, yeah! That would benefit the Chiefs. This doesn't. Lol. But, in all seriousness, you're right. Veach is likely going to add a couple of Veterans on the defensive line soon as well. Those guys won't affect the comp formula for us, so it will probably balance out in the end anyway.

I like Reid for HB, I think I'll like McDuffie for Ward by the 2nd half of the season. Chenal and Cook for Neimann and Dirty Dan, that's a major upgrade. Picked up a edge rusher. On paper the defense is noticeably improved unless someone crash and burns or gets hurt.

I really enjoyed watching him play here his first 2 seasons. Liked his style. I wish him well.

Good for him. He gets to go home.

Thanks for the memories but it was absolutely time to move on.

Veach only wants to buy prime years if he’s spending prime money. He’s purely making these moves to objectively and removing subjective data. Which shows growth and why Veach chose to fire Dorsey to promote Veach.

The one he signed without being objective was Sammy Watkins and he sees that as a mistake he doesn’t want to repeat.

I honestly don't post much, so you don't know a single damn thing that I think, and don't act like such, especially when you're arguing against something I never said. Don't try to pick a fight because you decide that somebody who brings a thought o the table is problematic to you. I never complained about the signing, I'm just saying that you would think it would be in the best interest of the league.

I find arbitrary deadlines that people actively attempt to skirt around to be BS. It's one of those "letter of the law" versus "spirit of the law" things.I just think that if the spirit of the comp pick rule is to help teams regain assets from highly paid losses in free agency, then negotiatied deals before a deadline should be punishable. It's punishable before the tampering window deadline, so it should be punishable here too. It's a "letter of the law" attempt to skirt around such.

I'm just saying I thought it would be in the leagues best interest, discourages these players waiting around until after some arbitrary deadline, it would encourage players into OTAs and minicamps sooner, potentially creating a better product on Sundays, which potentially means more revenues.

Personally though, I really don't care. Doesn't affect my day to day, and this is way down on the list of priorities. I'm just saying it's curious that the league does this when going about it the other way would arguably create a superior product.

100% count on him taking shots at the Chiefs once he signs there.

Good for him. Moving on.

He's dead to me......

And we don’t even get a comp pick for him. Disappointing.

Good riddance

Unfortunately, your probably right. It's a shame. I like the guy, but I have a feeling that is going to go sour really fast. I hope I'm wrong though.

We lost, probably, a top 15 CB and top 15 safety.

We added a young dude and several rookies.

Only a Chiefs homer would claim we got better in the secondary. On paper, we got worse. In practice, we have no ****ing clue how these new guys will play together.

The Chiefs got younger and more athletic in the secondary.

On paper, they're younger, faster and more athletic.

It was clear as day that Mathieu lost a step last season. Reid is going to be more than an adequate replacement for Mathieu.

Ward was the biggest loss.

Reid and Mathieu are basically a wash....except at least Reid is younger, more athletic and willing to actually tackle people.

Blah blah. This does nothing to change anything for OTAs or minicamps. It does nothing to put an inferior product on the field. You type a lot about this for someone who claims to not care.

On paper, they’re unproven.

I’m not so sure all this Mathieu talk isn’t overstated. He wasn’t as good in 2021 as he was in 2020 or our 2019 Super Bowl run, but he was still better than the average safety.

There’s a chance Reid gets here and busts.


This may be true in the long run but Reid is still an unknown on our squad.

Say what you want about Mathieu but even making some business decisions and being annoying af sometimes, we knew what we were getting with him.

Strangely we do. That is how bad the safeties we're last year. Never in on plays. Don't like to tackle, constantly beat deep. We basically played with 9 menm hopefully that was the players and not the scheme.

See ya Vager. I sure will miss seeing your non-stop business decisions and your whining about fans on Twatter.

Let's see here...

Signing later gets a lot of veterans out of OTAs, because they aren't signed... so yeah.. it does affect it, and teams are OK to work such out because its past th deadline.. Others work out deals to be signed later just so they don't have to attend these things, and that betrays the "spirit" of the rule.

And I typed it out because I simply posted a thought and somebody deemed it necessary to misconstrue it. I thought I'd clarify them for the board so others could follow the train of thought instead of thinking of it being a homer position.

I'm a fan of honesty in discussion, and that's something I do care about. I don't care what the NFL does in their comp pick policies.

I don't know why you all feel to attack me for posting such, though I should truly expect nothing less from this place as much as I enjoy it.

I genuinely hope that you have a fantastic day though, regardless of your abrasiveness to my post.

Edited: Forgot to Quote.

Thank you Mathieu! We obviously wouldn’t have had the success we had without you. Any real football fan can see that. I wish you well in your return back home. We’ll all be rooting for you to pull a Devin White and take Brady out this year to return the favor for that bush league bullshit they pulled last year.

I think Mathieu played through a couple of concussions last year. He got his bell rung and he just wasn't the same. Hence the late season business decisions.

Couldn't see making the same mistake we made with Eric Berry and pay a guy a monster contract at that age. I'm glad he got to go home and play in New Orleans. I have nothing but respect for Honey Badger, but I'm also looking forward to seeing how the new secondary comes together. I also think it's hilarious that HB has to play with Dirty Dan in New Orleans. I don't think they like each other very much.

It is quite entertaining that Matthieu will still be putting up with Sorenson. I wonder how much playing time Dan will actually get though... it would be funny to see the first moment that Matthieu throws up his hands from a Sorenson blown coverage.

May leave Kansas City, but you can't get away from Dirty Dan!

What are you talking about? The rule states that players signed after 4pm today don't count as it relates to compensatory picks.

So if HB signs with the Saints tomorrow, how does that have any impact on his availability for OTAs?

You're complaining about the idea that a team could softly agree to something in the last couple weeks and only sign the deal after the deadline and rightly stating that gets around the intent of the rule. I agree with you there.

But if Ingram doesn't want to go to OTAs and isn't signing until after, what is being violated/betrayed?

It's a player's prerogative where and when he signs.

Mahomes may have not liked him throwing up his hands Kermit style

Trash

Seems like all our cast off offensive players go to the Bears. Now all our cast off defensive players are going to the Saints.

I think the Bears win this one.

Pull an Elway, get an afternoon drunk going and send in the paperwork late like he did with Dumervil. LMAO

I couldn’t imagine life with Matheiu off the team mid-last season.

With all the new talent he would be holding this team back. Amazing how that works.

I'm saying that if a team arranges a contract before the deadline, then they should sign before the deadline. If they want to exempt them from activities, put that in the contract. Don't just sit on it so you can avoid awarding comp picks.

I personally feel a lot of teams have arrangements already worked out where they will sign players much later, to avoid workouts, OTAs, etc, and they probably agree beforehand, and for them they do it because it allows them to skirt the deadline.

Sitting on an already agreed contract to skirt deadlines is in the rules, but unethical.

I should clear something up in my terminology, in terms of OTAs, I'm not only referring to official OTAs, but everything else that comes with onboarding a new player. Getting the playbook, meeting with other players, coaches, etc. I should have defined that better initially, and that's my bad, I could have prevented a lot of disclarity with my poor choice of terminology. I should have used the term onboarding and workouts.

If players are getting playbooks before they sign (i.e. Gronk in TB admitted he did and countless more are yearly most likely) That's against the rules, and shows there are pre-arranged deals to skirt rules instead of just making items optional in the contract.

I guess the main summary of my point is that it gives an additional avenue in which players and teams agree to do such because they get to skirt past a deadline and gather an additional pick, or if you're a player you can work the deal to avoid some OTA stuff, but theoretically you shouldn't have the playbook until signed (which is probably completely ignored)

And I'm not saying every contract post draft is like this obviously, and it's probably a small minority of contracts rewarded, it's just another avenue that due to an arbitrary deadline can and most certainly is abused. Just that instead of attempting to put these items on paper, they have before given out playbooks and sat on contracts for a substantial period of time.

It should be player prerogative, just put it in the contract instead of making it a backroom dealing. Sorry, that was long. I just felt that I should clarify my thoughts.

Well bye....

Wonder if he learned to not make business decisions and attack the fan base.

So if we miss the deadline for the compensatory pick this year, does that mean we just don't get a pick at all? Or do we get a 2024 pick?

Good for him.

Thanks for your 2 years of playing hard and no thanks for that last year of whatever the hell that was . . . . .

But I will always appreciate 2019 and 2020.

Good luck on your future endeavors.

signed/ toxic fanbase

After the first preseason TD is given up by a Chiefs safety...

Fans: "WE TOLD YOU TO BRING BACK MATHIEU!!!!!"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There will also be a question as to whether the NFL Management Council will consider this report as circumvention of the comp pick formula, and still qualify Tyrann Mathieu as a compensatory free agent.<br><br>Unlikely, but I won&#39;t rule it out based upon a Saints signing of the past.</p>&mdash; Nick Korte (@nickkorte) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1521122499768963073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I want my comp pick!

TM via Twitter: "Hmm"

Damn Sorenson and Matheiu together again. I can’t think of a better description than this picture that describes both of them last year. Spot on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sorensen and Mathieu get to be reunited with the Saints. Congrats. Reunited and it feels so good. <a href="https://t.co/OrU7QfF8hI">pic.twitter.com/OrU7QfF8hI</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1521185014087626752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>