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TLO 04-30-2022 05:07 PM

**** OFFICIAL Chiefs 2022 Draft Grade Thread ****
 
Put your ten pounders on the table and give the 2022 draft a waaaayyyyy too early grade.

BigRedChief 04-30-2022 05:08 PM

A-

Chris Meck 04-30-2022 05:09 PM

A.

Absolutely.

I think it's entirely likely that at least 4 of these guys are immediate upgrades.

I felt like we needed to get 4, and was hopeful for 6, I still feel the same way now.

Jerok 04-30-2022 05:10 PM

A+

It seems like Veach got value everywhere. I hope this grade holds up over the years!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2022 05:11 PM

Need to include UDFA but no one has created a thread

Sassy Squatch 04-30-2022 05:11 PM

B+. Would've liked to see the 2nd round handled differently but whatevs.

TLO 04-30-2022 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16276123)
Need to include UDFA but no one has created a thread

Fire one up, champ!!!

Bowser 04-30-2022 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 16276118)
I made an ****ing typo in the poll options. ABORT THREAD

Would you like to add a specific type of air fryer? Let me know.

chiefforlife 04-30-2022 05:12 PM

Very solid A

In fact given that we were at the end of each round, Im going A+

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2022 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 16276126)
Fire one up, champ!!!

I can’t. My privileges have been revoked

Iconic 04-30-2022 05:13 PM

Potential to be the best draft I've personally witnessed by KC. A+++++

staylor26 04-30-2022 05:13 PM

A+

ThyKingdomCome15 04-30-2022 05:14 PM

I agree with PFF, A+. Exactly what we needed. Veach is the crown jewel of the Chiefs front office, best in the league.

DaFace 04-30-2022 05:15 PM

It helps when we actually have draft picks to use for once...but there's no question they got great value with pretty much every pick. Time will tell how it actually pans out of course.

(I gave it an A, not that my opinion amounts to anything when it comes to prospect evaluation.)

Bowser 04-30-2022 05:16 PM

It seems they hit on most of the major needs the team had, and it seems that most of the selections were of pretty insane quality where they got them.

A

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2022 05:19 PM

The Bills got our punter and it will come back to haunt us. The Bills will now be hosting the next four AFCCG's

F

RunKC 04-30-2022 05:20 PM

I think draft grades need to be measured differently. A draft with many picks will have more quality players but I think they need to graded harder than ones with fewer picks.

Having said that I think we had a good draft. But I cannot in good faith give us an A bc we did not fix the DL. We desperately needed multiple and we only drafted one which is really concerning.

I do like the players we drafted aside from Bryan Cook (unless he starts covering TE’s well). But I’m really happy with what we did.

I’ll say B+

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-30-2022 05:21 PM

A plus but time will tell us the real grade.

WhawhaWhat 04-30-2022 05:22 PM

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Stewie 04-30-2022 05:23 PM

I give it B. Still very solid. The Cook and Chanel picks keep me from giving an A.

Mulliganman 04-30-2022 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16276175)
I think draft grades need to be measured differently. A draft with many picks will have more quality players but I think they need to graded harder than ones with fewer picks.

Having said that I think we had a good draft. But I cannot in good faith give us an A bc we did not fix the DL. We desperately needed multiple and we only drafted one which is really concerning.

I do like the players we drafted aside from Bryan Cook (unless he starts covering TE’s well). But I’m really happy with what we did.

I’ll say B+

I think we must have an agreement in place with someone that’s available via FA

Bronco_buster2 04-30-2022 05:25 PM

Grading drafts is one of the most annoying things. It’s absolutely meaningless to access a grade when we nothing about the process to how our front office came to their decision. The real grades can be measured in a couple years.

I give it an A+++

Couch-Potato 04-30-2022 05:25 PM

Love the Moore, Chenal, & Kinnard picks!

Hoping Karloftis and McDuffie turn out to be fantastic picks.

Unsure about all of the DBs taken.

Feels like a B+/A-, but what do I know.

Titty Meat 04-30-2022 05:26 PM

A

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2022 05:26 PM

James Jones adamant Sky Moore is the best receiver in the draft.

Coochie liquor 04-30-2022 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16276125)
B+. Would've liked to see the 2nd round handled differently but whatevs.

You just HAD to lose that Avi bet, huh? That avatar is killimg me.

louie aguiar 04-30-2022 05:29 PM

Very solid draft. Not crazy about the cook pick and I would have preferred Pickens to Moore. As with all drafts we won’t be able to really judge for at least a year.

ping2000 04-30-2022 05:30 PM

Still have a boner. Watching a weak ass non interested defense that couldn't tackle sucked last year. Bolton excluded of course. I wanted mean ass ****ers on defense that want to tackle. Looks like we got some of that. Pleased.

suzzer99 04-30-2022 05:30 PM

The real answer is "It's way too early to grade the draft, and I refuse to take part in this"

But **** it - A+!

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2022 05:33 PM

B+/A-

I know this isn't popular, but I am not a fan of Karlaftis.

I really hope I am wrong, but I think Jermaine Johnson paired with Lewis Cine would have been a better pair of players than McDuffie/Karlaftis, but McDuffie is a home run.

Having said that, this may be the best draft I can remember in terms of players I really, really like.

Barty Vajaje is the GM we all thought John Dorsey would be.

Bravo.



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tshull90 04-30-2022 05:42 PM

A

On paper, this is the best draft ive witnessed. To be able to get at least 4 IMPACT starters and great depth even in RD7, hats off to Veach and his team.

They took value, however the value they took were at positions of need. I was not expecting them to take as many picks as they did, maybe 8, ended up with 10.

I can see Skyy as a potential OROTY and Chenal if used right can be a force. I LOVE the versatility of McDuffie can kind of throw him around anywhere when needed. Was not a huge fan of Karlaftis but, i am coming around to the pick. When they announced the name George my father and i were excited because we thought they picked Pickens lol. But, he gives a high floor with great hands and awesome run stopper. We should be smacking people in the mouth.

I cant wait till next year, i will be flying down from NJ to attend the Draft with my father. LETS GO CHIEFSSS!

notorious 04-30-2022 05:43 PM

Incomplete.

Rainbarrel 04-30-2022 05:46 PM

I think they drafted with next year's KC draft in mind.
If any fail, they can still have a nice crew of bouncers

Marcellus 04-30-2022 05:46 PM

Im not the college football draft geek many here are but looking at what we drafted, where we got them and the needs it looks a lot like last year digging into the players.

Hard to find an issue anywhere.

xztop123 04-30-2022 05:47 PM

I agree with PFF. A+

To me moore will be the biggest determinant of its success. I think all the other players are high floor enough to not be concerned about them busting

CatfishBob2 04-30-2022 05:48 PM

B+

Started off amazing. The draft tailed off for me when the moved up for Kinnard. Could have added more to the DL and still focused on the DBs. I thought the DL was going to be the focus of this draft but that's ok

Red Dawg 04-30-2022 05:49 PM

Veach kicked ass. Even the media liked it and they almost never like us.

staylor26 04-30-2022 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16276247)
B+

Started off amazing. The draft tailed off for me when the moved up 4 spots for Kinnard. Could have added more to the DL and still focused on the DBs. I thought the DL was going to be the focus of this draft but that's ok

LMAO

Yea that 7th round was really costly! Not like they had 4 of them!

xztop123 04-30-2022 05:55 PM

The thing about the Moore pick and the trade back with the pats.

Did veach already have moore targeted and have insider info that Pickens would go inbetween the picks? Seems extremely unlikely but that’s the only way this is a solid pick

If he didn’t know that then we just took the last good remaining wr in exchange for a 5th

493rd 04-30-2022 05:56 PM

I voted F because I believe in equity.

staylor26 04-30-2022 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 16276264)
The thing about the Moore pick and the trade back with the pats.

Did veach already have moore targeted and have insider info that Pickens would go inbetween the picks? Seems extremely unlikely but that’s the only way this is a solid pick

If he didn’t know that then we just took the last good remaining wr in exchange for a 5th

LMAO

Moore was always the best fit for the Chiefs in that tier.

I wanted Pickens too, but I don’t believe for a second that they had him over Moore on their board.

The Franchise 04-30-2022 06:02 PM

A-

I would have really liked another EDGE.

crispystl 04-30-2022 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 16276264)
The thing about the Moore pick and the trade back with the pats.

Did veach already have moore targeted and have insider info that Pickens would go inbetween the picks? Seems extremely unlikely but that’s the only way this is a solid pick

If he didn’t know that then we just took the last good remaining wr in exchange for a 5th

I think the Chiefs wanted Moore over Pickens, but they assumed most teams ahead of them would take Pickens if they went WR so they (the Chiefs) were fairly safe trading back a few spots.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16276278)
LMAO

Moore was always the best fit for the Chiefs in that tier.

I wanted Pickens too, but I don’t believe for a second that they had him over Moore on their board.

I have come around on the Moore pick.

I think I was still annoyed about Karlaftis, and Moore just compounded my frustration, because I wanted Christian Watson or Pickens.

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crispystl 04-30-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16276278)
LMAO

Moore was always the best fit for the Chiefs in that tier.

I wanted Pickens too, but I don’t believe for a second that they had him over Moore on their board.

Yeah this.

CatfishBob2 04-30-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16276251)
LMAO

Yea that 7th round was really costly! Not like they had 4 of them!

It kinda was. It was a great draft but sitting and watching our (CP) players fly off the boards because we didn't have a pick for almost two rounds was irritating

I don't remember the compensation for that pick but one more DL or EDGE and I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about this draft

staylor26 04-30-2022 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16276291)
It kinda was. It was a great draft but sitting and watching our (CP) players fly off the boards because we didn't have a pick for almost two rounds was irritating

I don't remember the compensation for that pick but one more DL or EDGE and I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about this draft

We gave up a 7th round pick to secure a guy that many thought would go on day 2.

This is a really stupid complaint.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-30-2022 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16276247)
B+

Started off amazing. The draft tailed off for me when the moved up for Kinnard. Could have added more to the DL and still focused on the DBs. I thought the DL was going to be the focus of this draft but that's ok

Well they traded back in the second and picked up a 5th. So feel free to bump that grade up. :thumb:

Red Dawg 04-30-2022 06:13 PM

He did great. We got really good talent that will pay off.

Mr. Kotter 04-30-2022 06:20 PM

In 2022 the Chiefs will field their best 53-man roster since I can remember. And I am old. Nice job, Andy and Brett.

:thumb:

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2022 06:22 PM

Good God this deserves an A+ just for this!!

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Chiefnj2 04-30-2022 06:26 PM

A-/B+.
Still not sure Johnson and Booth/Gordon, would have been better than McDuffie and Karlaftis.
Would have also preferred another DE at some point. Pass rush is still a weakness.

O.city 04-30-2022 06:28 PM

Good. Not sure what I’d grade it. B plus a minus maybe?

Based on the draft position is seems like they got good value. Still need a de but we’ll see what happens

smithandrew051 04-30-2022 06:29 PM

My only critique is that I wish we could’ve grabbed another WR or DL over Cook.

That said, if we did I would be concerned with safety depth right now. Definitely an opportunity cost to every pick. I’ll trust Veach’s judgement on how he viewed the value at that point.

Absolutely seems like a great draft. It’s really hard to hit so many positions of need without a bad reach anywhere.

Really seems like Veach has turned the corner on when to be aggressive and when to let the draft come to him.

CatfishBob2 04-30-2022 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16276299)
We gave up a 7th round pick to secure a guy that many thought would go on day 2.

This is a really stupid complaint.

I said it was a great draft. I think we could have paid more attention to the DL.....out of all the picks we made, what it took to get that guy I could live without if It meant another DL...simple.

Chieftain 04-30-2022 06:31 PM

A+.

Easily Brian Leach's best draft and probably the best draft of all the teams considering the value of the picks at where they were drafted.

Pablo 04-30-2022 06:32 PM

It's like a 93/94. Kind of draft we should all be fairly content with outside of the second round depending on who you are.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2022 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16276333)
A+.



Easily Brian Leach's best draft and probably the best draft of all the teams considering the value of the picks at where they were drafted.

I couldn't tell if he was serious and doesn't know Veach's name, or if he was just giving Chiefsplanet a shout out.

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TrebMaxx 04-30-2022 06:37 PM

Had to vote B but it is a B+. I love the focus on D. Its what was needed. I am just not sure about the WR group and was hoping for a little bit more. There is always FA's and UDFA's so who knows how this roster shakes out.

scho63 04-30-2022 06:54 PM

B+/A-

No crazy reaches or WTF pick. Could we gave jumped and grabbed better??? Never know but solid by all accounts.

COchief 04-30-2022 06:57 PM

Voted B only due to Veach getting bent over by Belicheck, that trade sucked and should have been pulled off with the later 3rd instead of the early one and a 4th or Veach should have stood pat. Not one single CB taken between the trade and where we were sitting. If the pick is a probowl caliber player year in and year out fine, otherwise you have to ding for the trade, stupid.

smithandrew051 04-30-2022 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276370)
Voted B only due to Veach getting bent over by Belicheck, that trade sucked and should have been pulled off with the later 3rd instead of the early one and a 4th or Veach should have stood pat. Not one single CB taken between the trade and where we were sitting. If the pick is a probowl caliber player year in and year out fine, otherwise you have to ding for the trade, stupid.

Didn’t the Bills take a corner like two picks after we did?

Mulliganman 04-30-2022 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16276378)
Didn’t the Bills take a corner like two picks after we did?

They did :eek:

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2022 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16276291)
It kinda was. It was a great draft but sitting and watching our (CP) players fly off the boards because we didn't have a pick for almost two rounds was irritating

I don't remember the compensation for that pick but one more DL or EDGE and I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about this draft

I'm telling you, Chanel will play edge, he will be our Micah Parsons...

Fat Elvis 04-30-2022 07:10 PM

I went with Gaz because I think Bart Vlatch could of traded a few air fryers to the Jacksonville brain trust for the #1 overall pick and picked up Hutchinson to go along with Karlaftis and fix our D-line for years to come.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2022 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276370)
Voted B only due to Veach getting bent over by Belicheck, that trade sucked and should have been pulled off with the later 3rd instead of the early one and a 4th or Veach should have stood pat. Not one single CB taken between the trade and where we were sitting. If the pick is a probowl caliber player year in and year out fine, otherwise you have to ding for the trade, stupid.

The Bills took Kamir right after us... If we don't trade up, we don't get McDuffie and he by far is the better corner. We also got 1 back from Belicheat later, a 5th. On the trade chart, it was also a pretty fair exchange.

COchief 04-30-2022 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulliganman (Post 16276380)
They did :eek:

God you're smart.

OK, one CB taken with holes at DE, WR, TE, CB, SS, FS and you give up the early third and a fourth? Plus, come on just never trade with NE, they always win or get something extra. I think it was an unnecessary move costing us two possible quality players. Good draft overall, that trade is just a bee in my bonnet, one pick too many and didn't seem at all to be needed. Hope I'm wrong.

COchief 04-30-2022 07:12 PM

Easy ball lickers, ok one CB was taken and the Lions proved we overpaid is my main point. Plus just stop fugging trading with Belicheat.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-30-2022 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276370)
Voted B only due to Veach getting bent over by Belicheck, that trade sucked and should have been pulled off with the later 3rd instead of the early one and a 4th or Veach should have stood pat. Not one single CB taken between the trade and where we were sitting. If the pick is a probowl caliber player year in and year out fine, otherwise you have to ding for the trade, stupid.

Word is KC stole McDuffie away from BUF, who took Elam instead. I think that's a huge W.

Rainbarrel 04-30-2022 07:14 PM

Debbie Downer relay team had a handoff

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2022 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276388)
God you're smart.

OK, one CB taken with holes at DE, WR, TE, CB, SS, FS and you give up the early third and a fourth? Plus, come one just never trade with NE, they always win or get something extra. I think it was an unnecessary move costing us two possible quality players. Good draft overall, that trade is just a bee in my bonnet, one pick to many and didn't seem at all to be needed. Hope I'm wrong.

McDuffie was top 10 guy on many pre-draft rankings. We took 10 guys today. We would have used that Capital somewhere, because we weren't drafting 12, I'm surprised we drafted 10. You can nitpick this draft, but that's about it, there is no WTF picks and all are mean physical players.

COchief 04-30-2022 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16276393)
Word is KC stole McDuffie away from BUF, who took Elam instead. I think that's a huge W.

Hope I'm wrong, seemed excessive to me.

Mulliganman 04-30-2022 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276388)
God you're smart.

OK, one CB taken with holes at DE, WR, TE, CB, SS, FS and you give up the early third and a fourth? Plus, come on just never trade with NE, they always win or get something extra. I think it was an unnecessary move costing us two possible quality players. Good draft overall, that trade is just a bee in my bonnet, one pick too many and didn't seem at all to be needed. Hope I'm wrong.

Smart enough to not spout off shit that ain’t right that’s for sure ROFL

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2022 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 16276391)
Easy ball lickers, ok one CB was taken and the Lions proved we overpaid is my main point. Plus just stop fugging trading with Belicheat.

LMAO Bilicheat took a 5th round guard with our 29th, and I think a QB with our 4th.

COchief 04-30-2022 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16276402)
LMAO Bilicheat took a 5th round guard with our 29th, and I think a QB with our 4th.

Lol no question he seems to be an idiot when he picks someone after trading back, it's the trading back where he always seems to get more that he should.

I'm not scared of more Nkeal Harry or whatever his name is, just ol greasy Bill always gets a pick or two more than he should it seems.

DanBecky 04-30-2022 07:21 PM

**** it, bring on the Bills. Ready to pound their dick in the dirt. A, baby!

Why Not? 04-30-2022 07:23 PM

It's an A for sure.

redfan 04-30-2022 07:27 PM

A
93/100
Brick Latch has done it yet again!!

Dunerdr 04-30-2022 07:28 PM

I picked B for badass.

FloridaMan88 04-30-2022 08:01 PM

A-, overall great draft that filled the main needs and Skyy could be the most impactful WR in the draft.

I think Jermaine Johnson might have more upside/higher ceiling than George Karlaftis and thought maybe it was worth the Chiefs trading up a few spots to get Johnson since he fell within striking distance of their 30th pick.


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