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Direckshun 09-17-2021 08:42 AM

I think the NFC West may be the best division I've ever seen in the NFL.
 
Like, all four teams have Super Bowl juice.

I actually think the team I like the least has Russell Wilson and if they can sort out some defensive issues, they're a Top 5 team.

All four teams just look hellacious.

What takes do you have on this ridiculously tough division? All four teams can absolutely make the playoffs, right?

cmh6476 09-17-2021 08:45 AM

we'd smoke them all

FlaChief58 09-17-2021 08:49 AM

I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

BigCatDaddy 09-17-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

Get new friends...that's not a bad prediction.

InChiefsHeaven 09-17-2021 08:50 AM

As always, need a few more games. But damn...they all sure look loaded and ready for bear.

Redbled 09-17-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

Not at all excited about another road Super Bowl. Give me Brady again please with somewhat objective officials.

KChiefs1 09-17-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction


Copycat

I called it after the Stafford trade.


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mr. tegu 09-17-2021 08:59 AM

The 49ers have the worst QB in the division by a wide margin and will probably finish last. They are not a Super Bowl contender at all.

Rainbarrel 09-17-2021 08:59 AM

All taste like chicken

FlaChief58 09-17-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15837384)
Copycat

I called it after the Stafford trade.


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Just makes too much sense to me. Stafford can still sling it and they've got a really good team and coaching around him and . I firmly believe they get over the hump this year

Deberg_1990 09-17-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15837352)
Like, all four teams have Super Bowl juice.

I actually think the team I like the least has Russell Wilson and if they can sort out some defensive issues, they're a Top 5 team.

All four teams just look hellacious.

What takes do you have on this ridiculously tough division? All four teams can absolutely make the playoffs, right?

Kliff Kingsbury is the weak link.

Megatron96 09-17-2021 09:03 AM

Every team in the NFC-W will likely make the playoffs. I think the jury's still out on AZ, bt they looked pretty good last week. The 49ers are playing QB carousel, which I don't believe is viable over a season, but we'll see. SEA and LAR are legit NFC champ contenders, with the Rams as the class of the W, imo. If Stafford plays the way many of us think he can, the Rams would be the most dangerous team in the NFC, and it wouldn't be very close.

O.city 09-17-2021 09:05 AM

I think the Cards actually have the highest ceiling because of what their QB COULD be, but they have the worst coach.

The Seahawks are kinda laying low, but they'll win 12 and be right there.

Seanathon 09-17-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

I did a mockup of how I think the season will go including playoffs and ended up with the same result. It surprised even me because other than KC I didn't walk in with a bias on the NFC side. The matchups post season just kept seeming in the favor of the Rams. It isn't "just" Stafford, that team has been talented enough to be in the argument for years other than Goff's "I don't like football" expression.

Bearcat 09-17-2021 09:09 AM

*checks calendar*
Seems to be on the same talking-head premature level of fake hype as "Kyler Murray for MVP!!!!" last year.

RedinTexas 09-17-2021 09:09 AM

1984 AFC West was pretty stout. Chargers finished in last (of 5) with a 7-9 record. Out of their 9 losses, 8 were to AFC West opponents.

Lzen 09-17-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 15837371)
Not at all excited about another road Super Bowl. Give me Brady again please with somewhat objective officials.

Is that even possible?

MTG#10 09-17-2021 09:12 AM

Best division you've EVER seen in the NFL after one week.

LMAO

Direckshun 09-17-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 15837414)
Best division you've EVER seen in the NFL after one week.

LMAO

Haha, sure.

But look at the rosters. They’re all loaded.

Rams Fan 09-17-2021 09:17 AM

2002 AFC East and West had no teams with losing records.

jjchieffan 09-17-2021 09:18 AM

Definitely a tough division. And a big reason why I think that the Ravens miss the playoffs. Their division plays the AFC West and the NFC West. Since they already lost to the Raiders, I could see 6 losses between those 2 divisions (wins against the Donks and 49ers). Add another 3 inside their division and that makes 9 losses.

lcarus 09-17-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15837386)
The 49ers have the worst QB in the division by a wide margin and will probably finish last. They are not a Super Bowl contender at all.

Jimmy G will probably play his best ball now that he has a talented rookie breathing down his neck. Similar to Alex Smith in 2017. Like Alex in 2017, it will be just good enough to lose in the playoffs. They should just rip the bandaid off and start Lance now.

FlaChief58 09-17-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 15837425)
Definitely a tough division. And a big reason why I think that the Ravens miss the playoffs. Their division plays the AFC West and the NFC West. Since they already lost to the Raiders, I could see 6 losses between those 2 divisions (wins against the Donks and 49ers). Add another 3 inside their division and that makes 9 losses.

Honestly, with the amount of injuries on the ravens right now. I would not be surprised if the donkeys pull off the win in that one

Ming the Merciless 09-17-2021 09:26 AM

49ers are an illusion. ravaged by injury and a semi QB battle going on. theyll be lucky if they go 3-3 over the next 6 games i.m.o.

Marcellus 09-17-2021 09:31 AM

Nothing better than post week 1 / pre week 2 prognostications.

Why Not? 09-17-2021 09:40 AM

Niners gave up 30 plus to the Lions and it wasn’t as garbage timey as you may think. Lions had the ball with a chance to tie late. Not really impressed. I’m a Cardinals guy but I think the win over the Titans will be looked back upon as more telling about Tennessee than Arizona. I think the Cards can make the playoffs but I’ll need to see Kingsbury not totally wilt in a second half of a season before I truly believe. Seahawks and Rams are legit contenders.

Bearcat 09-17-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 15837425)
Definitely a tough division. And a big reason why I think that the Ravens miss the playoffs. Their division plays the AFC West and the NFC West. Since they already lost to the Raiders, I could see 6 losses between those 2 divisions (wins against the Donks and 49ers). Add another 3 inside their division and that makes 9 losses.

They play the NFC North, but still a reality check compared to all of those teams sweeping the NFCE last season and getting at least a couple of freebie wins.

crispystl 09-17-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbled (Post 15837371)
Not at all excited about another road Super Bowl. Give me Brady again please with somewhat objective officials.

Lmao GOOD LUCK BUDDY!
Those two things are mutually exclusive.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2021 10:09 AM

49ers almost choked a 28 point lead to one of the worst top to bottom rosters in the NFL. They ain't ****ing shit this year, especially given their incredibly weak defensive backfield.

Gary Cooper 09-17-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

That would be our luck. The Super Bowl is in LA this year, isn't it? Can you imagine the kind of ass raping the referees would give us in that game?

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2021 10:29 AM

They do have the benefit of playing the weakest AFC division for their non conference games, so that helps, but I seriously doubt all 4 teams make the playoffs when the NFC South is effectively guaranteed at least 1 wild card team barring injury.

King_Chief_Fan 09-17-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15837352)
Like, all four teams have Super Bowl juice.

I actually think the team I like the least has Russell Wilson and if they can sort out some defensive issues, they're a Top 5 team.

All four teams just look hellacious.

What takes do you have on this ridiculously tough division? All four teams can absolutely make the playoffs, right?

say more...what data are you using?
where is their strength?
All teams are good but what makes them a playoff or superbowl team?

Chiefspants 09-17-2021 10:49 AM

NFCW fans are pretty convinced it'll come down to what it did last year, with the healthiest two teams surviving until the end.

KChiefs1 09-17-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837388)
Just makes too much sense to me. Stafford can still sling it and they've got a really good team and coaching around him and . I firmly believe they get over the hump this year



I think they will dominate but they are in a helluva division. Every division game will be a bloodbath.


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Dunerdr 09-17-2021 01:19 PM

That Cards secondary is gonna get eaten up against russ and stafford imo.

RealSNR 09-17-2021 02:46 PM

Shanahan is overrated.

He's all great and awesome until a player or two gets an injury. Then it's "Whoops 5 win season sorry lol!"

He's turned them into the Chargers of the NFC.

Chiefspants 09-17-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15837864)
That Cards secondary is gonna get eaten up against russ and stafford imo.

Did Seattle rebuild their line? If no Russ goes from MVP Russ to survival Russ around Week 11. He's not going to have time to torch their secondary if Jones is running after him all game.

Bump 09-17-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

why would that be ridiculed. Obviously anyone who says anybody but the Chiefs should be ridiculed. I guess the Rams? They have been pretty good, outclassed a little by Green Bay, Saints and now the Bucs but still pretty good. I think Stafford finally has some playoff success with a much more talented team around him.

kccrow 09-17-2021 06:55 PM

Could it be a good division? Yes.

Best of all time? We'll ee about that. Alot of quite good ones in the past. I highly doubt it'll be in the discussion.

lcarus 09-17-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15838115)
Shanahan is overrated.

He's all great and awesome until a player or two gets an injury. Then it's "Whoops 5 win season sorry lol!"

He's turned them into the Chargers of the NFC.

Speaking of the 49ers. I've seen a player more injury prone than Sammy Watkins. Raheem Mostert. Dude is literally made of glass. He had 2 carries and is out for season. After having like 8 injuries every time he came back last season. Guy would be a pretty good RB if he could ever play the game without getting injured.

chiefzilla1501 09-17-2021 07:11 PM

It's a very good division.

Not ready to crown Stafford just yet. He's an incredible talent that has always found ways to lose games even when he was slinging it. Need to see him do this more consistently.

Not impressed with Arizona. Don't know what 49ers have in the qb yet. And Seattle has to show they're more than just a tough playoff team at some point. Very good division but still a lot to prove.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-17-2021 07:47 PM

Every day proves how little you know about football. Wow...

scho63 09-17-2021 07:51 PM

I was very impressed with the Cardinal D during our preseason game and called it out. I'm just still not sold on Murray yet.

Simply Red 09-17-2021 08:07 PM

Banned Billay will blow you

Mama Hip Rockets 09-17-2021 08:17 PM

Definitely looks like a pretty stacked division. Before the season, I predicted all 4 teams in the playoffs & Chiefs vs. Rams Super Bowl.

TEX 09-17-2021 08:32 PM

The NFC West is pretty good for sure...Back in the day, the Cowboys, Eagles, Skins and Giants were all very good also.

Baby Lee 09-18-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 15837366)
I called a Rams v Chiefs superbowl before the season and was ridiculed by my friends. I'm sticking with that prediction

That was my call the day of the Stafford trade, but all that stuff is on paper. Championships are formed in the regular season by health. Key injuries anywhere change the future before its written.

If both squads remain relatively healthy, that matchup is the surest bet to my eye.

RunKC 09-18-2021 11:55 AM

The Rams have the best formula that I can see thus far to beat us. Tampa Bay is probably 2nd best but they don’t have Stafford.

Stafford in his first game had a 156 rating with 3 TD’s and 300+ yards on a good defense. Their defense also has one of the best pass rushers I’ve ever seen and Ramsey to defend one Kelce/Hill.

I’m sure the Rams would beat us in the SB bc we’ll get ****ed again by a “home team” in the SB.

Pablo 09-18-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15838972)
The Rams have the best formula that I can see thus far to beat us. Tampa Bay is probably 2nd best but they don’t have Stafford.

Stafford in his first game had a 156 rating with 3 TD’s and 300+ yards on a good defense. Their defense also has one of the best pass rushers I’ve ever seen and Ramsey to defend one Kelce/Hill.

I’m sure the Rams would beat us in the SB bc we’ll get ****ed again by a “home team” in the SB.

GTFO with that shit. Next team we face in the SB is getting the business, home team, away team, Mars team whatever. Doesn't matter. Pat is going nuclear next time we're on that stage, no doubts in my mind.

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15838464)
Every day proves how little you know about football. Wow...

You're a ****ing tool

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15840455)
You're a ****ing tool

My comment was to the Op since I didn't quote you. But since you went there, I can edit it to include you and it would be just as accurate

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15838972)
The Rams have the best formula that I can see thus far to beat us. Tampa Bay is probably 2nd best but they don’t have Stafford.

Stafford in his first game had a 156 rating with 3 TD’s and 300+ yards on a good defense. Their defense also has one of the best pass rushers I’ve ever seen and Ramsey to defend one Kelce/Hill.

I’m sure the Rams would beat us in the SB bc we’ll get ****ed again by a “home team” in the SB.

You realize Stafford is very streaky right?

chiefzilla1501 09-19-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15840462)
My comment was to the Op since I didn't quote you. But since you went there, I can edit it to include you and it would be just as accurate

Got it. Sorry about that.

Pablo 09-19-2021 02:57 PM

Vikings somehow beating a team from the greatest division ever

BigRedChief 09-19-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15838972)
The Rams have the best formula that I can see thus far to beat us. Tampa Bay is probably 2nd best but they don’t have Stafford.

Stafford in his first game had a 156 rating with 3 TD’s and 300+ yards on a good defense. Their defense also has one of the best pass rushers I’ve ever seen and Ramsey to defend one Kelce/Hill.

I’m sure the Rams would beat us in the SB bc we’ll get ****ed again by a “home team” in the SB.

I want TB to get some revenge with our new OL. Let’s see how they do when Mahomes isn’t running for his life all game.

Bearcat 09-19-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15840702)
I want TB to get some revenge with our new OL. Let’s see how they do when Mahomes isn’t running for his life all game.

We already know how that plays out when it was 17-0 after one quarter in November... the main difference being TB's adjustments on offense in the SB.

Revenge would be nice... at least until the refs are throwing DPI flags again when Brady is throwing it to someone in the stands.

Bearcat 09-19-2021 03:24 PM

BEST DIVISION EVER!!!

Pablo 09-19-2021 03:26 PM

Oops Vikings losing to a team from the best division ever now

Megatron96 09-19-2021 05:05 PM

Well, they're set up now. Gotta just hang on for 2:45.

PHOG 09-19-2021 06:02 PM

Apparently, Seattle excluded.

KChiefs1 09-19-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 15841115)
Apparently, Seattle excluded.


They had that game but let it slip away.


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PHOG 09-19-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15841117)
They had that game but let it slip away.


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Sure did.

Mama Hip Rockets 09-19-2021 06:06 PM

I mean, best division ever doesn't mean nobody will ever lose. They are still 7-1 combined. LOL

PHOG 09-19-2021 06:11 PM

Yeah, well, that was some pretty shitty play calling on the Seahags part. But the division is tough.

Bearcat 09-19-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15841122)
I mean, best division ever doesn't mean nobody will ever lose. They are still 7-1 combined. LOL

It's just highlighting the silliness of saying something like that after week 1, versus trying to disprove it. 7-1 versus the likes of Minnesota, Detroit, Philly, Chicago, and the currently 0-2 Colts... but, I mean how about that Cardinals win against the Titans on the road! :shrug:

Rams' next 3 will be interesting.


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