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RunKC 04-29-2021 10:06 PM

Let’s talk about rd 2
 
Lot of good receivers left as well as corners.

Feeling good about it. What’s our big board look like?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-29-2021 10:09 PM

I want Terrace Marshall and Jabril Cox as our picks

Dante84 04-29-2021 10:10 PM

2 of the below will be available and are Chiefs. Who you got?

Spoiler!

smithandrew051 04-29-2021 10:10 PM

I predicted Boogie Basham. I’ll stick with it.

Couch-Potato 04-29-2021 10:16 PM

We’re going to get 2 really good players!

smithandrew051 04-29-2021 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 15652543)
We’re going to get 2 really good players!

2 future Super Bowl Champs!!!

Couch-Potato 04-29-2021 10:17 PM

Basham & Wallace feels right

Couch-Potato 04-29-2021 10:19 PM

Cox and Eskridge, also solid.

kccrow 04-29-2021 10:20 PM

We still have 26 picks before us, so it's really hard to pinpoint who might even be in the realm of possibility.

If Creed Humphrey gets in range of a trade up with next year's 3rd, I'd make that move. He's an elite looking Center and would cement this O-Line.


Other than that, wait and see. I'd hope for Basham and Adebo at this point. I'm not going to get too excited about Basham being there though, still alot of teams with need for edge talent and he may be the best on the board. I'd probably make a move for him too.

I would love for Dyami Brown to be there, but I highly doubt he is. I don't think Elijah Moore makes it much further either but damn would he be good in this offense. I wouldn't mind Marshall if he falls. I like a couple of the linebackers like Cox, Browning, and Surratt.

I don't know, we'll have to see how things start looking at pick 40-ish, which is about as high up as the Chiefs could trade (future #2).

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:22 PM

I still feel like Elijah Molden is one of the two.

I don't see many of those guys at the top of that list falling far enough.

I'd love Elijah Moore but my guess is that he goes in the first 10 or so picks tomorrow.

Honestly, this played out pretty well for the Chiefs.

BigChiefFan 04-29-2021 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15652511)
I want Terrace Marshall and Jabril Cox as our picks

That would be phenomenal to land those two players. I believe both will make positive impacts as rookies and beyond. Both look like legit starters to me and I’d be ecstatic with those two players being drafted by us. It’ll be interesting to see who falls to us and what direction we take. Go Chiefs!!

Dante84 04-29-2021 10:25 PM

I'd like Jabril Cox and Creed Humphrey.

OL locked down for 4-5 years, and spend the next few years taking skill players and defensive studs.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-29-2021 10:28 PM

Marshall is 6’3” 205 and will be only 21 years old when the season starts. Runs a 4.38 40 as well

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:28 PM

A lot of talent available:

Dyami Brown
Elijah Moore
Rondale Moore
Terrace Marshall
Pat Freiermuth
Tommy Tremble
Azeez Ojulari
Carlos Basham
Joseph Ossai
Ronnie Perkins
Creed Humphrey
Landon Dickerson
Quinn Meinerz
Elijah Molden
Aaron Robinson
Asante Samuel Jr.
Kelvin Joseph
Tyson Campbell
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Jabril Cox
Baron Browning
Trevon Moehrig
Richie Grant

Give me some combination of these guys and I’m more than happy.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15652571)
Marshall is 6’3” 205 and will be only 21 years old when the season starts. Runs a 4.38 40 as well

Just depends on his medical shit, man.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652574)
Just depends on his medical shit, man.

Yep.

The foot issues are potentially a big deal, we don't really know yet.

BigChiefFan 04-29-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15652571)
Marshall is 6’3” 205 and will be only 21 years old when the season starts

His talent level is worth serious consideration for trading up for. I hope he falls to us, but I’ll be surprised if he makes it to us, where we draft currently.

ForeverIowan 04-29-2021 10:31 PM

Cox, Marshall, Molden, Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Dickerson, Humphrey, Samuel Jr., Brown

Any of the above would be a homerun in my book.

Dante84 04-29-2021 10:32 PM

In no order, here's the list of guys I'd be happy with our two picks being, from guys who I think have a chance of being there at 58 & 63.

Ronnie Perkins
Asante Samuel Jr.
Terrace Marshall Jr.
Jabril Cox
Elijah Molden
Creed Humphrey
D'Wayne Eskridge
Pat Freiermuth
Ifeatu Melifonwu
Quinn Meinerz
Tylan Wallace
Nico Collins

RunKC 04-29-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15652573)
A lot of talent available:

Dyami Brown
Elijah Moore
Rondale Moore
Terrace Marshall
Pat Freiermuth
Tommy Tremble
Azeez Ojulari
Carlos Basham
Joseph Ossai
Ronnie Perkins
Creed Humphrey
Landon Dickerson
Quinn Meinerz
Elijah Molden
Aaron Robinson
Asante Samuel Jr.
Kelvin Joseph
Tyson Campbell
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Jabril Cox
Baron Browning
Trevon Moehrig
Richie Grant

Give me some combination of these guys and I’m more than happy.

I’ve pretty much resigned to the fact that almost everyone on your list will be gone, but if I had to guess which guy I think we’re gonna draft I just keep thinking of Kelvin Joseph.

He looks exactly like a Chiefs draft pick

Woogieman 04-29-2021 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15652511)
I want Terrace Marshall and Jabril Cox as our picks

yes and yes:thumb:

ForeverIowan 04-29-2021 10:35 PM

Hearing Riddick talk about the Orlando Brown Jr. trade and Mahomes having all the time in the world is damn exciting. Makes me want to just push the damn envelope and grab Dickerson or Humphrey. Our offensive line would be elite.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:36 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, after what happened at the end of the night tonight with the edge rushers, I don't think we'll be taking a DE. I'm not sure the quality will be there now with Turner and Tryon going that high. If there's a mini-run early tomorrow night, a lot of the names that are left will be gone quickly.

I gotta think we're looking hard at IOL, WR, CB, and LB at this point.

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15652587)
I’ve pretty much resigned to the fact that almost everyone on your list will be gone, but if I had to guess which guy I think we’re gonna draft I just keep thinking of Kelvin Joseph.

He looks exactly like a Chiefs draft pick

There are 23 guys on that list and it doesn’t include QB, RB, DT, or OT. All of those guys will not be gone.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652592)
Hearing Riddick talk about the Orlando Brown Jr. trade and Mahomes having all the time in the world is damn exciting. Makes me want to just push the damn envelope and grab Dickerson or Humphrey. Our offensive line would be elite.

Humphrey yes, although he's probably gone in the first 10 picks or so tomorrow.

Dickerson is a hard pass. There's no way I'm drafting a guy with that medical history in the 2nd round.

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2021 10:38 PM

Feeling good about the second round. Keen to see what long dong Veach cooks up.

A solid wideout would be amazing.

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652594)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, after what happened at the end of the night tonight with the edge rushers, I don't think we'll be taking a DE. I'm not sure the quality will be there now with Turner and Tryon going that high. If there's a mini-run early tomorrow night, a lot of the names that are left will be gone quickly.

I gotta think we're looking hard at IOL, WR, CB, and LB at this point.

It’s just hard to know how things play out.

Yea there was a run tonight, but there could just as easily be a guy like Perkins or Ossai that falls.

If I had my guess though, I would agree that DE and CB aren’t the most likely.

I’d guess IOL and CB.

ForeverIowan 04-29-2021 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652597)
Humphrey yes, although he's probably gone in the first 10 picks or so tomorrow.

Dickerson is a hard pass. There's no way I'm drafting a guy with that medical history in the 2nd round.

Huge gamble I agree. Boom or bust. If healthy, he is a top 5 center in the league right away. The thought of Thuney, a healthy Dickerson, Long in the interior of that offensive line would be special. Blythe as a really nice security blanket.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15652601)
It’s just hard to know how things play out.

Yea there was a run tonight, but there could just as easily be a guy like Perkins or Ossai that falls.

If I had my guess though, I would agree that DE and CB aren’t the most likely.

I’d guess IOL and CB.

I think the fact that Humphrey and Dickerson both are still available bodes well for Meinerz to be there. If we could come away with him and say Jabril Cox or Elijah Molden, that's a very strong draft.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652604)
Huge gamble I agree. Boom or bust. If healthy, he is a top 5 center in the league right away. The thought of Thuney, a healthy Dickerson, Long in the interior of that offensive line would be special. Blythe as a really nice security blanket.

The Chiefs aren't just a contender, they're the favorite to win it all. There's no reason to take that kind of gamble. The upside isn't great enough because the team is already so good and the downside is literally not getting a damn thing out of a 2nd round pick.

I get that everybody gets all nostalgic thinking back to 2003 but that's a fantasy. We have a real QB now. We already traded picks for a LT and signed the best LG in the game. This team has other needs that need to be addressed. If the BPA is IOL, so be it but Dickerson will never be BPA because of the injuries.

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652609)
I think the fact that Humphrey and Dickerson both are still available bodes well for Meinerz to be there. If we could come away with him and say Jabril Cox or Elijah Molden, that's a very strong draft.

Agreed.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:47 PM

All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

ForeverIowan 04-29-2021 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652609)
I think the fact that Humphrey and Dickerson both are still available bodes well for Meinerz to be there. If we could come away with him and say Jabril Cox or Elijah Molden, that's a very strong draft.

Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history). Agreed Humphrey would be ideal but likely gone early in the 2nd.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history).

Yes. Yes I would.

RunKC 04-29-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652594)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, after what happened at the end of the night tonight with the edge rushers, I don't think we'll be taking a DE. I'm not sure the quality will be there now with Turner and Tryon going that high. If there's a mini-run early tomorrow night, a lot of the names that are left will be gone quickly.

I gotta think we're looking hard at IOL, WR, CB, and LB at this point.

I think you’re going to see a big run on OL tomorrow. Eichenberg, Cosmi, Dickerson, Mayfield, Humphrey, Little and probably Radunz all before we pick. There’s a ton of value there.

A ton of value at Corner too that will come off the board

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2021 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652612)
The Chiefs aren't just a contender, they're the favorite to win it all. There's no reason to take that kind of gamble. The upside isn't great enough because the team is already so good and the downside is literally not getting a damn thing out of a 2nd round pick.

I get that everybody gets all nostalgic thinking back to 2003 but that's a fantasy. We have a real QB now. We already traded picks for a LT and signed the best LG in the game. This team has other needs that need to be addressed. If the BPA is IOL, so be it but Dickerson will never be BPA because of the injuries.

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history).

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652618)
Yes. Yes I would.

So what are our top 3 preferred OL and WR?

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652616)
All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

Absolutely.

We’re golden.

And our 1st round pick is Orlando ****ing Brown.

staylor26 04-29-2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15652619)
I think you’re going to see a big run on OL tomorrow. Eichenberg, Cosmi, Dickerson, Mayfield, Humphrey, Little and probably Radunz all before we pick. There’s a ton of value there.

A ton of value at Corner too that will come off the board

Veach has consistently listed OL and CB as positions with great depth in this draft.

We’ll probably take 1 of each barring an edge rusher falling to us.

Mecca 04-29-2021 10:52 PM

I actually think Freirmuth would be a nice pick.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652616)
All I know is that there should be some good players still left at both of our picks.

Hell yeah there will be. I think we already knew that, it was just a question of which positions it would be.

Two things I didn't expect tonight:

1. The lack of offensive tackles getting picked. I thought for sure Jenkins would go in the 1st round. Obviously still ecstatic we got Brown but if the Chiefs did like some of these OT's, they could have gotten one without trading up most likely. It also means that one of them might be available at the end of the 2nd and while that would have been awesome before the Brown trade, I'm of the mind that I'd rather have another position now even if one of those guys falls.

2. The quick run on edge rushers at the end of the round. That really thins the talent pool for the Chiefs. Of the guys left, I really only like Basham and Perkins. Ojulari really isn't a scheme fit and I'm afraid that the lack of depth pushes a guy like Elerson Smith up to where it's just too high to take him.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652625)
I actually think Freirmuth would be a nice pick.

JOK and Tremble and I’ll never lose my erection.

Mecca 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652627)
Hell yeah there will be. I think we already knew that, it was just a question of which positions it would be.

Two things I didn't expect tonight:

1. The lack of offensive tackles getting picked. I thought for sure Jenkins would go in the 1st round. Obviously still ecstatic we got Brown but if the Chiefs did like some of these OT's, they could have gotten one without trading up most likely. It also means that one of them might be available at the end of the 2nd and while that would have been awesome before the Brown trade, I'm of the mind that I'd rather have another position now even if one of those guys falls.

2. The quick run on edge rushers at the end of the round. That really thins the talent pool for the Chiefs. Of the guys left, I really only like Basham and Perkins. Ojulari really isn't a scheme fit and I'm afraid that the lack of depth pushes a guy like Elerson Smith up to where it's just too high to take him.

I guess Chris Simms saying alot of these guys would end up as starting guards had some merit.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15652617)
Would you take Meinerz over Dickerson? Not saying either answer is right or wrong. Just interesting you'd rather gamble on a possible unknown of a DIII player (although he looks like a monster) over the Remington award winner in Dickerson (with the checkered medical history). Agreed Humphrey would be ideal but likely gone early in the 2nd.

Absolutely I would. There's no expectation of them playing this year with Blythe already being in house.

Meinerz' upside at both center and guard is tremendous.

And for me, the injury history is just a non-starter. I know there's people that don't agree but Landon Dickerson wouldn't even be on my board. I'm not taking a guy that's had that many problems especially when he's an IOL and it's his legs.

RunKC 04-29-2021 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15652624)
Veach has consistently listed OL and CB as positions with great depth in this draft.

We’ll probably take 1 of each barring an edge rusher falling to us.

Yeah there will be some guys there for us. Just saying I think a big run is coming at those positions bc of the value.

Everyone knows this OL and corner class is deep

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652630)
I guess Chris Simms saying alot of these guys would end up as starting guards had some merit.

Yep. And apparently the Chiefs saw it that way as well.

I'm really glad because I think they ended up making the right decision.

kccrow 04-29-2021 10:57 PM

I guess I'll just pick who I think KC will pick and not go off of anything I want.

CB Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky - athletic profile of a day 1 pick but maturity issues and what happened at LSU push him down.

OG Trey Smith, Tennessee - probably a day 1 pick if not for his blood clot issues 2 years ago which teams may not feel comfortable with.

Dante84 04-29-2021 10:57 PM

I am so confused as to why JOK is even on the board still.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15652632)
Yeah there will be some guys there for us. Just saying I think a big run is coming at those positions bc of the value.

Everyone knows this OL and corner class is deep

The good thing is that a lot of those guys you listed are tackles, at least in name. Like I said in my other post, the lack of tackles in the 1st round and so many tackles dropping into the 2nd really improves our chances of a good IOL prospect falling into our laps.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15652635)
I guess I'll just pick who I think KC will pick and not go off of anything I want.

CB Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky - athletic profile of a day 1 pick but maturity issues and what happened at LSU push him down.

OG Trey Smith, Tennessee - probably a day 1 pick if not for his blood clot issues 2 years ago which teams may not feel comfortable with.

I could totally see both of those.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15652636)
I am so confused as to why JOK is even on the board still.

Maybe teams aren't sure how they'd use him?

I can't imagine honestly. I think he's going to be a special player.

The Franchise 04-29-2021 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15652636)
I am so confused as to why JOK is even on the board still.

He’s a tweener. He’s not big enough to play LB full time.

Mecca 04-29-2021 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15652636)
I am so confused as to why JOK is even on the board still.

Because he took a ton of snaps as a nickel safety, he's like Dorian O'Daniel he's listed at LB he's the size of a LB but all of his tape is him basically being a safety, that creates questions.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15652635)
I guess I'll just pick who I think KC will pick and not go off of anything I want.

CB Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky - athletic profile of a day 1 pick but maturity issues and what happened at LSU push him down.

OG Trey Smith, Tennessee - probably a day 1 pick if not for his blood clot issues 2 years ago which teams may not feel comfortable with.

Trey Smith is a pro bowl talent guard, that guys a monster.

wazu 04-29-2021 11:02 PM

For the love of God don't draft another ****ing corner.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:04 PM

Eh CBs are expensive, it's smart to draft and replace like Rbs.

staylor26 04-29-2021 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15652646)
For the love of God don't draft another ****ing corner.

Umm what?

The Chiefs haven’t heavily invested in corner through the draft, so what do you mean by “another”?

staylor26 04-29-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652647)
Eh CBs are expensive, it's smart to draft and replace like Rbs.

We have no NB and Ward is a free agent next year. Anybody that doesn’t think corner is a need isn’t paying attention.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-29-2021 11:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Elijah Moore falls I’m begging you to pull the trigger Veach I don’t care what the team needs. Kid is special</p>&mdash; Jefe (@JeffAllen71) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffAllen71/status/1387988555645997060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15652642)
He’s a tweener. He’s not big enough to play LB full time.

He's fast enough to play nickel safety though.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15652646)
For the love of God don't draft another ****ing corner.

After next year, we have two corners that have shown they can actually play in the NFL - Sneed and Fenton. Keyes is a complete unknown.

Baker is on a 1-year deal and will be a RFA. Ward will be an UFA and may be too pricey to bring back.

We have a real need for cheap talent at CB. So yeah, they'd be wise to draft another corner.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15652651)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Elijah Moore falls I’m begging you to pull the trigger Veach I don’t care what the team needs. Kid is special</p>&mdash; Jefe (@JeffAllen71) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffAllen71/status/1387988555645997060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I love Elijah Moore but I don't think he falls to us.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652656)
He's fast enough to play nickel safety though.

Simmons not being great scared teams on these guys. Lots of teams have no idea how to use tweeners or guys with special skill sets.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652662)
Simmons not being great scared teams on these guys. Lots of teams have no idea how to use tweeners or guys with special skill sets.

Well here's to hoping he falls because I have no doubt Spags could use him.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:23 PM

So this is fun, Dan Orlovsky and Geoff Schwartz are jerking on twitter about how the Browns are drafting to beat KC.

And that the AFC is KC, Buffalo and Cleveland.

Cleveland hype is a bit insane.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652675)
So this is fun, Dan Orlovsky and Geoff Schwartz are jerking on twitter about how the Browns are drafting to beat KC.

And that the AFC is KC, Buffalo and Cleveland.

Cleveland hype is a bit insane.

So you don't need good CB's against teams other than the Chiefs? That's weird.

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2021 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652675)
So this is fun, Dan Orlovsky and Geoff Schwartz are jerking on twitter about how the Browns are drafting to beat KC.

And that the AFC is KC, Buffalo and Cleveland.

Cleveland hype is a bit insane.

I mean if I was a Browns fan I'd want them to have a mentality based on beating the best.

staylor26 04-29-2021 11:27 PM

Did the Browns get a QB?

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 15652681)
I mean if I was a Browns fan I'd want them to have a mentality based on beating the best.

Cleveland finished 3rd in their division last year. They're not building to beat the Chiefs any more than they're building to beat the Ravens or Steelers.

It's just absurd to even talk about. It's the whole "Ravens shouldn't have traded Orlando Brown to the Chiefs" argument all over again.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652684)
Cleveland finished 3rd in their division last year. They're not building to beat the Chiefs any more than they're building to beat the Ravens or Steelers.

It's just absurd to even talk about. It's the whole "Ravens shouldn't have traded Orlando Brown to the Chiefs" argument all over again.

There's alot of stupid takes. Like people saying the Bengals want to get Joe Burrow killed. Burrow literally told them to take Chase, it's who he wanted.

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652688)
There's alot of stupid takes. Like people saying the Bengals want to get Joe Burrow killed. Burrow literally told them to take Chase, it's who he wanted.

Not to mention the fact that having a guy that can get open in a split second is just as valuable in terms of preventing QB hits as getting a guy that can protect for two...

kccrow 04-29-2021 11:33 PM

If Jonah Williams stays healthy the Bengals are okay on the outside with him and Reiff. They need a developmental RT and some interior O-Line. That doesn't scream top 5 pick for me. They did well taking the playmaker. I think they would have preferred Pitts, but Chase is a fine consolation prize.

Mecca 04-29-2021 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15652691)
If Jonah Williams stays healthy the Bengals are okay on the outside with him and Reiff. They need a developmental RT and some interior O-Line. That doesn't scream top 5 pick for me. They did well taking the playmaker. I think they would have preferred Pitts, but Chase is a fine consolation prize.

Pitts is literally the highest drafted TE of all time...this may not be awesome.

AussieChiefsFan 04-29-2021 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15652691)
If Jonah Williams stays healthy the Bengals are okay on the outside with him and Reiff. They need a developmental RT and some interior O-Line. That doesn't scream top 5 pick for me. They did well taking the playmaker. I think they would have preferred Pitts, but Chase is a fine consolation prize.

No doubt it was a good pick

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-29-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15652683)
Did the Browns get a QB?

Baker was actually really solid last year. I’d take him over Lamar

htismaqe 04-29-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15652693)
Pitts is literally the highest drafted TE of all time...this may not be awesome.

He's the highest evaluated TE of all time. Literally the best prospect ever.

As big as all the hype is, you have to wonder if he will be able to satisfy expectations.

In58men 04-29-2021 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652697)
He's the highest evaluated TE of all time. Literally the best prospect ever.

As big as all the hype is, you have to wonder if he will be able to satisfy expectations.

A lot of hype, Vernon Davis I believe was the better prospect coming out. Had a better combine at least.

BossChief 04-30-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652631)
Absolutely I would. There's no expectation of them playing this year with Blythe already being in house.

Meinerz' upside at both center and guard is tremendous.

And for me, the injury history is just a non-starter. I know there's people that don't agree but Landon Dickerson wouldn't even be on my board. I'm not taking a guy that's had that many problems especially when he's an IOL and it's his legs.

Blythe was signed for essentially vet minimum and Veach referred to him as depth.

We are going to draft a center that can compete for the starting role.

bringbackmarty 04-30-2021 12:34 AM

We definitely need a WR, also a corner, Edge, Mlb. Any of these is fine. Just no Meinerz tomorrow. Fine with that on a Sunday.

bringbackmarty 04-30-2021 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15652697)
He's the highest evaluated TE of all time. Literally the best prospect ever.

As big as all the hype is, you have to wonder if he will be able to satisfy expectations.

Exactly, you could see it, he kinda looks like he could be lost. I think it's too much hype. Lot of risk picking a TE that high.

staylor26 04-30-2021 12:55 AM

The Chiefs have a great shot at getting 2 good players tomorrow and you already basically have Niang as part of this years draft class. Willie Gay kind of feels like a RS Freshman too.

Hit on these 2 and we’re going to be scary good.


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