Cap Hits: 2021
 

Alternatively titled: “Guys who have 100% chance of being on your roster next year”



15. Frank “Stank” Clark $25.8
17. Saint Patrick 24.8
26. Chris Jones 21.8
37. Honey Badger 19.7
64. TY CHEETAH 15.9
73. Fish 15.2
115. Kelce 13.2
170. Hit-Man 10.7
189. Mitch The Bitch 10.1
383. Butt-kicker 3.9


(1) Where are we getting all this $? 6 of top 73? (2) Does Clark have a money printer? (3) Holy hell do we have several former trash players on this list getting big bucks to suck

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2021/cap-hit/

This thread is much less interesting with the stupid nicknames and lack of any real content.

Um, for one: Clark has committed an obscene amount to a few stars next year, which is an awesome kudos to him as an owner who wants to win.

And two, we will have to fill in multiple spots with 1st/2nd year (or even waiver wire) low-wage guys. Meaning Veach is really going to earn that paycheck next season.

Frank the Stank I thought it was funny and appropriate.

For the money he makes he had been a virtual no show all season.
He can redeem himself by showing up in the playoffs hopefully.

Next year a third of those dudes will be significantly declining, assuming they’re even healthy.

We really need to win this year because it gets much harder going forward until we go through a mini rebuild.

Over $40M cap hit for Big Ben & Matt Ryan. Yikes.

I was struck by the 34 mil for Goff and wentz.

Yep. Pretty bad. LMAO

24.4 million for Alex Smith or Mahomes for 400k more-LOL

Good chance that's the last year we pay Clark. Hopefully he balls out again in the postseason, but you can't pay $26 million in 2022 and $28 million in 2023 for a pass rusher who really isn't a playmaker. Will need that money elsewhere most likely. And yes, it's very possible we have a mini-rebuild somewhere between 2022-2024. Obviously we still have Mahomes, but even the greats like Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc. had years that were less competitive than others.

Kelce ranked 115th

Bargain of the NFL.

He really should get top WR money, good for us he doesn’t

31. Dee Ford 20,785,000

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That’s $161 million for 10 players leading $34 million for the rest. It’s possible that Schwartz retires because of his back injury and they can maybe extend Fisher to get that number down, but this doesn’t look good for the Chiefs and Veach has his work cut out for him.

Like he did the last 2 years?

Frank helped win a title you dumb ****

If Mahomes, Kelce and Hill are healthy those seasons then the floor is still 12 wins. No matter what happens with the rest of the roster.

You can appreciate that while also acknowledging the reality that he isn’t worth near what he’s paid.

Seems he spends a lot of time swimming in the water and not biting a ****ing thing.

I'd trade him for $25 million and a cold sixer of keystone.

If there's one NFL executive I worry about being able to manage a salary cap, it's definitely Brett Veach.

Look at that list- not many in the top 20 are worth their paycheck.

Frank will dominate this weekend and make a run at his 5 sack playoff performance last year.

Jesus Christ you guys have short memories. Carl Peterson would blow his wad on some past their prime/over the hill/has been free agents every year thinking it would finally get Marty ball over the top. Enjoy the window this team is currently in. The Chiefs will always contend with Mahomes at the helm, and Veach is about to have a full arsenal of draft picks this year. There is always a plan, and times are great. People still act like Clark Hunt is spending some of your personal savings.... sheesh

Rasputin's Run It Back campaign, obviously.

Kelce and Tyreek subsidizing the rest of the team

What’s with the asshole juvenile names?

I just hope he shifts it into Overdrive for the next 3 games THIS YEAR

He started the off season with $6. Signed Mahomes, Kelce, Jones. And Reid/Veach

Danna, Wharton, Sneed, Durant, Allegretti, Townsend, Fenton...

All 4th round picks or later in the last 2 years.

This thread is dumb.

If we have another draft/UDFA year like last 2020, it gets a lot more realistic to maintain

2018 wasn't great but he did get Nnadi in the 3rd round and he's a starter and a good player. We have to remember that 1) they were missing a first round pick and 2) there was turmoil in the front office because of the Dorsey stuff. The scouts weren't all set and that affected the draft.

2019 and 2020 were arguably great, even though they didn't have a 1st round pick in 2019 either. Aside from the individual guys that are starters and contributed, EVERY SINGLE ONE of our draft picks from 2019 and 2020 are still on the team and getting snaps. That's almost unheard of.

Steelers are so done. They need to pray he retires, and go with Rudolph to eke out a 9-7. Theyre In “cap hell”.

He has done a great job at acquiring depth.

The only thing that he hasn't done that Dorsey did is draft any bonafide superstars.

It’s impossible to argue against this^

You don't usually get bona fide superstars in the draft right away unless they're blue chip prospects drafted in the top of the first. Kind of hard to get those guys when you don't have a first round pick at all, followed up by picking 32nd overall.

When you're picking where the Chiefs have been, you often have to develop those guys. Thornhill was on his way to being a pro bowl safety before the injury but other than him, it has only been 2 years. This time next year, you could be adding CEH, Gay, Sneed, and others to the list.

I mean Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill weren't superstars in their first seasons. Tyreek broke out in his 2nd year and Kelce in his 3rd.

Landlord and Fisher probably getting extensions

The thing is, they have moves to make.

Mathieu and Fisher can be extended and reworked and drastically lower their cap numbers.

Chris Jones can see a big chunk of next year’s salary converted into a signing bonus. That would free up a huge amount of cap space.

I think Schwartz will retire and free up a large chunk of money, too (which will be used in large part on his replacement).

No need for doom and gloom. Chiefs are fine.

Hill is gonna need an extension here soon as well

If Schwartz retires, they're on the hook for all of his dead cap money in 2021 - about $3.75M. They'd save just north of $6M.

https://www.catscratchreader.com/202...t-does-it-mean

Tyreek Hill is under contract for 2 more years.

We have at least another year of our orginal core group. That’s 4 years of keeping 6-8 Pro Bowlers together including your football saviors well deserved 1/2 $ BILLION. That’s a long time in the modern era. And we can probably squeeze out another 5th year.

Kelce will be 34 too. No one stops aging. Mahomes salary starts going up too. Like I said, we have 2 more years with this group.

Once we get through Covid and back to normal I believe the salary cap will skyrocket with new contracts and new sources of revenue. By 2024 or 2025 I think Mahomes’ contract will look like a bargain.

Justin Houston and Dee Ford are both better than Frank Clark. But we got ourselves a Super Bowl. It was more about ridding ourselves of Grandpa Bob more than anything.

Justin Houston in the one year and **** no on Ford. His best year cost us a superbowl by lining up offsides.

I don’t care what draft picks we gave up. How much money Clark’s paid, how much is still due. He got teams off the field on 3rd and 4th downs. That made a huge difference in me getting to enjoy a Super Bowl for the first time in 50 years. Money and draft picks well spent.

Same with Sammy showing up in the playoffs. Playoff Sammy is a different animal

:LOL:

'are'?

That works a little different than I was thinking, but that’s still a big chunk of cap. Should you get you about 1/2 to paying the salary of a replacement for him (and can cover most of a year 1 salary).

He’s about to turn into Clark the shark, blood in the water!!

I DO NOT LIKE WIN YU CALL HIM MITCH THE BITCH

Dee Ford hasn't been on the field.

He stole money from the 9ers.


Not even close.

Whole bunch of people are fixing to eat more crow thanks to Frank Clark.

I’ll be here.

I'll be here waiting, too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si....rite-contracts

We will be fine...

Exactly.

The Chiefs were able to re-sign all their stars AND do it while creating a ton of cap space.

They can create the flexibility they need next year. If they need to spend to reinforce their OL, they will spend to reinforce their OL.

49ers fans are desperately hoping he retires. The one I talk to regularly blames that trade for them having to trade Buckner away.

I went over to their forum and lurked a bit. Dee Ford has them by the balls, and they’ve gotten nearly nothing in return. There is no reason for him to retire with that much money left on the books.

Thank goodness we jettisoned that anchor.

Chiefs can kick the can down the road. At some point, they definitely need to start getting a return on Clark or he's out.

Still can't understand why they restructured that contract. As it was they had a relatively painless out after 2 years. Now they're ****ed.

Those guys better should up big in the playoffs because several of them aren't worth the money.

ROFL

I had no idea he was thinking about retirement.

They thought they need him and foolishly thought he could get healthy.

Their pass rush efficiency fell by almost 50% last year when he wasn't on the field. For all of the talent they had, that talent depended on Ford giving them better matchups.

Yeah, his back is messed. He's done.

He isn’t, and that’s the hilarious part!

If he balls out again in the playoffs, it will be hard to argue value.

Results are all that matter, and 14-2 plus Frank eating QB's alive in the playoffs will be enough to keep the formula going.

This just in...Dee Ford pre-reserves his spot on IR for 2021 season

Steven Nelson 14.2
Kendall Fuller 13.1


(Gulp)

Kendall Fuller has actually been pretty good this year IIRC

Every time I watched Pittsburgh Nelson was being abused.

I’ll believe you, but he ain’t worth that on our roster. Not even 1/3 of it. We used to be the team signing expensive FA from winning teams and trying to get 8 wins....while they kept producing cheap replacements.


Now it’s us. The last few years have been a total mind-freeze.

Don't forget that the new TV contracts will raise the cap substantially in 2022 and thereafter.

The speculation I read was that the contracts would at least double what they are now.

Yep, I mentioned that in another post in this thread. Cap is obviously down for a year or two, but new TV contracts and new sources of income from gambling and elsewhere likely sees an explosion in the salary cap. I think Mahomes' contract will eventually be seen as a bargain, of course there's always the possibility that him and his agent try to renegotiate a new contract at that point.

I agree. We're damn lucky Breeland is still here. If he finally decides to get a bigger contract, he'll be gone too. CB's are just too expensive.

I know there's been speculation he might be back, and I'd love to have him, but I know he's been searching for that "big" contract relative to what he's been getting. He wouldn't have been back last year IMO without the off the field issues. Not sure on his market, but I think he's likely gone.

They need to do something with Clark's contract this summer. Convert some cap to cash or something.

Won't that make his cap hit down the road even worse? His cap number is almost $28 million in 2023 which is insane, I can't imagine that number going any higher. I think you just have to bite the bullet in 2021 and let him go after the season.

Mahomes as well, though that will start to even out as we approach his extension.

Of course it will make his cap hit worse down the road.

The problem is that while I agree with you it's probably best to just move on, I don't think they will. Extending him is probably the more realistic option.

Yeah, Mahomes is cheap.

The good news is that his balloon may just coincide with bigger TV contracts, meaning he goes back to being cheap shortly after his contract kicks in anyway.