Star Trek: Lower Decks
 

This feels like it may be more STTNG with a splash of Orville... but animated. I will definitely be giving this a look.

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I guess I'm watching this by myself then. :D

Yeah, sorry but that looks pretty terrible....

I'm fine with Animated & I'm fine with humor in my Trek.
But I'd prefer to mix in some seriousness.
I'm really going to show my age here but..
I'd love to see an updated animated series like the original animated trek(1973) & toss in humor there.
If this was the case I'd be all aboard!

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Wasn't there a TNG episode with the same name?

Yup... and it is the premise of this series. It isn't a serious show because these aren't people making command decisions. They are tying to figure out how to get promoted, sucking up to higher ranking officers, and the general hijinks that go on at the lowest ranks as they go about their daily duties.

I get that... but at the same time this show features characters that will rarely, if ever, be forced to make command decisions. There was an STTNG episode called Lower Decks that this show is based on.

It's a workplace comedy set in the bowls of a Federation Starship featuring low ranked people going about their work day.

I....didn't hate it. Will probably watch next week.

Kirk to Spock:

What is it, Spock?

Spock to Kirk:

It's Trek, Jim. but not as we know it...

Getting ready to watch it now. I'm not a big fan of Rick and Morty but I suspect I will enjoy this.

Hijacking for a moment because I really wasn't sure where else to put this. I got a decent chuckle here -

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Voyager was by far the most garbage Star Trek ever produced.

Heh. As much as I love Star Trek, there are tons of discrepancies like that. One of my favorites is how ships cannot go to warp within a solar system; except when they do, all the time.

And don't even get me started on all the time travel horseshit (sometimes just a simple calculation, sometimes impossible), or how useful the Pegasus phasing cloak would have been during the Dominion/Borg Wars. Or how Picard's refusal to send Hugh back to the collective with the fatal virus was responsible for every single death caused by the Borg from that point forward.

And even though we just left EARTH ten minutes ago, we're the only ship in the quadrant!

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Last season or two once 7of9 became a major focus was a much better product.

I think I have Frazod to thank for that revelation. Watched them during the COVID lockdowns.

There are a few gems in there. There are still a lot of episodes that I haven't seen. If the synopsis doesn't grab me, I don't bother.

The whole concept was dumb, though. Had I been a crewmember on that ship and learned that the captain had consigned me to a decades-long trip home in order to save a race of people who only live to be seven, I'd have shot her in the face with a phaser.

ST Voyager is prestige level television compared to ST Discovery. I watched the first season of that for the first time a few months back (after pushing it back for years) and was so annoyed with it that I didn't bother to watch S2 (which I know has Spock and Pike). It actually had potential too if they didn't make some of the idiotic choices they made with the characters at the end of the season.

The fact that they abandoned the whole "scarcity of resources" subplot was the first thing that annoyed me about Voyager. Or second, the first thing was that they were more concerned about replicating a cup of coffee than having enough antimatter (I was 12 and had read the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual).

I haven't watched Discovery. Don't know that I will.

Season 2 of Discovery is tolerable because of Pike, Spock, Number One and the Enterprise. I've probably said this a dozen times. I'm totally looking forward to the new Pike-centered show. As for Discovery, I doubt if I'll even watch it, unless I hear really, really good things about it from people I trust first. It's amazing what an unlikable cast they've assembled. I don't care if any of them live or die, and in the case of Stamets, I'm actually rooting for death. Worst character in Star Trek history. He sucks so bad he makes Neelix look like Data.

I wouldn't. It will just annoy you. The decisions made concerning Jason Isaacs' character (Captain Lorca) and what he was reduced to at the end of the season just completely ruined the entire thing for me (among other issues).

Agreed. Lorca was the only one I actually liked.

This is one of those things on a streaming service that I'll never pay for.

But I guess I'm the only person who actually thinks this is a fun idea?

I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. I too, though, refuse to pay for these bullshit streaming services for specific content.

I mean Clerks built an entire bit on the poor contractors that got blown up while installing toilets on the death star. Robot Chicken and Family Guy have both done something similar w/ storm troopers that were just there to get their equivalent of a GI bill while working in the radio room or something and got blown up.

It's not completely unique, but it's always good to pump for a few laughs here and there. And when they start plumbing the dynamic between the 'normies' and the 'heroes' of the traditional Star Trek stories for humor, there's gonna be some good stuff there.

Completely with you on Robot Chicken/Family Guy's spoofs on Star Wars. I think what I'm into here is that this is actual Star Trek. This isn't a spoof or a bit. Whatever happens in this show is CANNON.

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What a strange way for Star Trek to continue the Prime timeline... but I'm actually enjoying it.

Perhaps the most important man in Starfleet History... Chief Miles O'Brien

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So... I'm just gonna keep talking to myself in this thread.

This last episode was by far the best and the most "Trek" of the season so far. I can't believe that no one else is in this thread talking about this show. This feels like a show that could run for 4-5 seasons without getting stale.

It is clear to me, especially after the most recent episode, that the writers of the show understand and love Star Trek. They seemingly mocked my own concerns, and a lot of other people I assume, when they made it seem like all the officers were going to get pissed at Rutherford for changing his mind over and over. Instead, they kept it Trek and everyone was super supportive of his choice to find his place on the ship.

I might check it out. I love Star Trek and I love good funny cartoons as well.

Yeah, it's been way, way better than I expected, especially after the abortion that was Picard.

100% agreed. I had grave concerns that this was gonna be Rick and Morty in space, or some bastardization of STTNG... but instead it has been real Trek.

I suspect that we will, soon, be hearing voice acting work from Patrick Steward and several other legacy characters. Bonus... this might be an avenue for Brent Spiner to play B4/Data again (assuming they follow Canon set by the Countdown graphic novel).

You should absolutely check it out. It is extremely well made and scratches that STTNG itch in a way that Voyager couldn't even remotely begin to.

There are 4 of us watching it now!!!!

Got caught up on this. It's not amazing, but it's not garbage, either. Entertaining enough to keep me coming back. I did chuckle at the line about how the Enterprise seemingly has something new going on each week, though. Nice touch.

The first actor from STTNG is set to reprise their role on LD.

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That finale was pretty ****ing good.

Well... the series just ended. Last episode went out on Paramount+. It had a 5 year mission and it stuck the landing. The end* also gave an open to possible feature length films being released in the future which I am PUMPED about.

I loved this show. This is one of the best Trek shows to ever be made. I wish that more Trek fans on the Planet had picked up on this series but I get it... sometimes you just don't like something.

With the series having come to and end... my rating of Trek series is updated as follows:

1. DS9
2. TNG
3. LD
4. Enterprise
5. SNW
6. TOS
7. VOY
8. Picard**
9. Animated TOS
10. A Trek show that hasn't been made yet
11. The Orville
12. Discovery

Lower Decks made me appreciate the TNG/DS9/VOY era of Trek even more than I did before and can be re-watched multiple times with new references and call backs to the actions of the crews of the prior shows. I urge you to get past the first few episodes where it is mostly character introduction and them finding their footing. TNG's first two seasons were, mostly, rough and yet it is possibly the most beloved of them all.

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** Picard S1 was ok and S2 was hot garbage which drags down the overall score for the series

DS9, along with Discovery, are the only ST shows I haven't watched in full. I guess I may have not seen all of Voyager, but watched the last couple seasons fairly recently and they were excellent.

I tried watching DS9 from the beginning last year, but just couldn't do it. Where should I start if I want to try later in the series?

Oh, and Lower Decks is phenomenal. I am so glad I gave it another shot after your recommendation a while back! I would love to see more content, maybe even live action as I've seen rumors, with the cast of LD.

People will tell you how amazing DS9 is, but I will tell you how great DS9 was.

For it's time it was ground-breaking. The good guys did bad things. The bad guys sometimes had righteous beliefs, but their actions were bad.

It's been done a million times the last 20 years, but DS9 was the first to do it.

It will be very hard to get into going in cold today. I'll have to look back at an episode list to tell you when to start.

The first couple seasons were not good at all.

I watched the first couple seasons when it first aired before losing interest.

I enjoyed the episode where LD crossed over into Strange New Worlds

My guide for getting into DS9.

The first season seemed really slow going. It got better, for sure.

I did always cringe at those alternate universe episodes where Kira was bad (amongst others). Other than that, I think the show was pretty good.

Yeah, I did the same. I think. Heck, I might have stopped watching sometime during the first season.

But I went back and watched the entire series in recent years and I really enjoyed it.

Oh, and I did watch Lower Decks from the first season back in 2020. I have enjoyed it. Sad to see it go but all good things......

Thanks

Star Trek Discovery reintroduced that same thing, (So long, Emperor Giorgio. See you in Star Trek - Section 31) although not on a quantum reality level, even though they borrowed it from TOS. No complaints there?

I see what you did there. :thumb:

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'Those Old Scientists' - (T.O.S.) Paying homage to The Original Series. - Great Episode

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