Is Charvarius Ward a #1 corner?
 

[PFF KC Chiefs] Charvarious Ward ranks #1 in Passer Rating allowed and Reception %. He ranks #3 in Yards Allowed and tied for 3rd in Yards/Coverage Snap
There were 10 cornerbacks to reach 1,000 total snaps in the 2019 regular season. Charvarius Ward was one.

• Passer Rating: 67.3 (1st)
• Yards Allowed: 634 (3rd)
• Reception %: 47.6% (1st)
• Yards/Coverage snap: 1.00 (T-3rd)

i think he is on his way but needs one more lock down season.

Can I see the input data?

Not only is he young and improving, keep in mind he played last season with awful eyesight.

No, he’s probably a CB2 at best, but the Chiefs seem content with having multiple CB2’s.

No

This

They like these flexible, inexpensive, interchangeable parts

CB 1.5

He is really ****ing good, but needs another season of that for the claim

I think Spags is getting the most out of him. But he is a solid player, not a #1.

This one is a nice take.

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No

Let's put it in some perspective....considering we got him for Parker Ehinger and he was undrafted, has been an impact player since the Seattle game, had the game winning pick to send us to the SB until Dee Ford ****ed it up and helped this defense go from a totally shitty secondary to a totally legit secondary what do you think?

I'll say we've spent more on lesser people and Ward has earned his starting spot. So he is a #1? Yes. Is he a prototypical #1? No.

Ward reminds me of a lot of the corners Belichick had during the Pats SB runs.

Solid, consistent, steady players...but not Deion.

He's no Paul, but I like him. I just wish he would stop masturbating so much.

He fits the system well.

He had a rough game against the Texans, but isn't getting the appreciation he deserves vs. the Titans and Niners.

He was basically asked to handle Bourne/Sanders on an island while the Chiefs doubled up and removed Kittle and brought Sorenson down for the run. The Chiefs challenged the 49er receivers to beat them, and Ward/Breeland didn't let that happen. He gave up a few catches, but that was it.

He sure as hell deserves to remain on this team based on this comment alone. A whole bunch of dudes has a rough game against the Texans. Dudes that are much more highly regarded than Ward.

He's pretty damned good trade bait too. This front office rocks.

I'm sure a lot of good corners have had some of their worst games against DeAndre Hopkins and Wil Fuller.

Methinks, Ward will get a 2nd contract that will be a couple million more per year than the veteran CBs we have signed as free agents. May need him to accept discount to afford him. I think being in a comfortable situation matters to him.

If Eric Warfield can be a #1 corner, then Chavarius can be one too!

He’s a starter. He’s still young and can get better. I think for this system he can be a CB1. Kendall Fuller was once the best slot CB in the league then switched teams.

And no I’m not against bringing in someone better. But I think based on the draft I think the Chiefs view him as a CB1 and they trust their ability to insert guys with size and ability and coach them up.

Chiefs have put a lot worse cb’s than Ward on the field. Trying to trade him would be a dumb ass move. He’s comfortable here and I think that mean’s a lot to him .I think when the time comes he will sign at a decent price .Thats tough position to play in the nfl and he’s young.

Think back to the one handed pick he made in the end zone in the first Texans game. Dude actually has to become a better zone player but ever since he stepped foot on the field you can bank that he will be in the receiver's hip pocket 95% of the time.

If we have a totally shit secondary then he is probably exposed a lot more. In our secondary with Honey Badger, Thornhill and Breeland he is a #1. Him and Breeland both were great this season and a lot of that has to do with a good pass rush and good safeties.

This.

He's better man-to-man than Marcus Peters.

He's our #1. Good enough to win a Super Bowl.

This

He is only going to get better but fear we won't pay him.

He reminds me of a young Albert Lewis and has that talent level just needs more development.

Needless to say we need other players before we look to replace him.

Agree with this 100%

Ward is good.

He's a #1 in my heart!!!

Aw geez, gonna go out on a limb here and say yes. A whole lot of trust was put on the back end of our defense, particularly the corner position and he delivered. Yes the moment front half of the defense had a lot to do with it but he was great in run support and I dunno he was pretty ****ing good.

Not based on what he's done up to this point. But he's been an incredibly efficient pick up who's young and talented and could still be a #1 with experience. Shit, even if he turns into a dependable #2 it will be more than worth what we traded for considering the position.

He's a 6-1" corner that runs a 4.4 Forty. He's a solid #2 at worst with some physical upside to be a solid #1.

He almost gave up the TD to Sanders in the super bowl

No. That was Fenton. We've talked about this, dude. Chiefs were pattern matching on that play (a late game Saban special) Ward's responsibility on that play was to get the receiver on the inside towards Fuller. Fuller was responsible for the deep post coverage on Sanders and Fenton was responsible for Bourne. Fenton DID NOT cover Bourne, leaving Bourne wide open in the middle. This forced Fuller to do a literal 180 so that Bourne was covered by someone on the field. Since Fuller was no longer covering the deep post, Ward pushing Sanders inside pushed him towards an opening created by Fenton - who Sanders was able to outrun on that play.

He got that eye surgery. Reid likes him. So maybe?

Yeah - you don't need all-world corners. Just guys who are consistent and can do their job.

He was a starting CB on a super-bowl winning team. It's really hard to argue that he's not that good, since he is wearing a RING.

He's better than Bartee. Still can't believe we got him from Jerry for a shitty brokedick guard.

This is the same as that old "Is X pitcher an ace" discussion.

Is Charvarius Ward one of the top 32 corners in the league? Yeah, I think that's a fair statement to make. So if everyone was evenly distributed, he'd be the best starting CB on some team somewhere in the CB ranking.

But that's not exactly how I see things on Aces or #1 CBs. If I'm going to game 7 of the WS and I have Madison Bumgarner I've got an absolute badass on the bump and I'm confident that my guy will have a great start and drag us through. But the Royals in 14 acquired Volquez mid-season and he had the best pedigree. Ventura the most talent and Chris Young may have had the most productive season beginning to end. They had a 'best pitcher' by a lot of different definitions but lacked an actual 'ace'.

So is Ward a #1 corner in a 'shut down CB' sense? No. But in a pure meritocracy would he be the best CB somewhere? Yeah, I think he would be.

Almost. Needs to continue to progress.

Not so far.

When extending the range down to 800 snaps Ward’s numbers are still pretty stellar.

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Off topic but I didn't know we signed Lavert Hill as an UDFA. He was supposed to be pretty good coming out of Michigan I thought. Definitely someone to keep your eye on.

I think you're underselling the talent the Patriots have had at cornerback.

Ty Law
Asante Samuel
Malcolm Butler
Stephon Gilmore
Aqib Talib
Devin McCourty
Logan Ryan
Darrelle Revis

None of them are Deion, but nobody is. They've generally always been solid to great at corner.

He's a really good player, would hope they can lock him up to a nice deal soon.

Good #2 who can be a number 1 on a limited basis, but isn’t a true #1. That’s a hell of a steal by Veach.

I suspect more teams will do what we are with this new league. Having an awesome corner means nothing anymore if you don’t have a quality 2, 3 and 4.

The best plan is to try to get as many decent #2’s as possible while drafting quality at the position.

I'd argue Ward is deserving of that list if he puts together another year like this one. We only allowed 1 WR to hit 100 yards this year. I had no idea - which speaks to how quietly Ward put together a good year.

Did he get lasik?

I missed this story

Just based on last season (and assuming Ward plays about as well in 2020), yes he's a CB1. I don't know how anyone could think differently.

Is he Deion Sanders? No, of course not, and probably will never even be Jalen Ramsey, but so what? In the league, IMO, I think he's definitely in the top 10-14. Did he have some bad plays? Yes, most definitely, but I'm struggling to remember a game where he just got hosed all day long.

I still think he lacks some athleticism of the very best corners, but he's pretty darned good in my book. And I'm reasonably certain he'll be even better this season.

I remember going to a Denver game and we were winning. And the final two drives Manning literally only threw at Marcus Cooper. As long as we have enough depth to prevent a situation like they I’m happy.

I do think Ward is a #1. He might not be a top 10 CB but in this defense we are more than OK with him. I like the approach of drafting CB’s with size and athleticism. Get them to buy in and you’re golden. We don’t “need” to rely on our defense, we just need them to allow Mahomes to win. And we are set up much better on defense than we were in the Vermiel era.

I lean towards this.

It may be that I'm just not remembering it, but I can't recall him getting toasted by anybody all season. I mean, he gave up a catch here or there, but nothing egregious.

And we play a LOT of man, although the coverage disguises in the middle of the field are helpful.

I see no reason at all, barring injury, that this won't be a top 10 defense.

With the offense we have, we should be near unstoppable.

Barring injury of course.

His worst game during the regular season was Week 1 @ Jax, with most of what he gave up coming in garbage time. He was nails after that. Honestly, I think his struggles against Hopkins and Fuller in the divisional round stand out disproportionately in our memory (as poor playoff performances tend to do).