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Hog's Gone Fishin 02-29-2020 04:44 PM

John Gruden interview
 
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Megatron96 02-29-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14818856)
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Shiver Me Timbers 02-29-2020 05:40 PM

Gruden-
That is a guy who I hate, start liking, and then hate again.
Come to think of it-
I used to hate Madden when he was coaching but loved him when he was riding coast to coast in his RV and working the games.
I still hope Gruden took the Faid gig to screw Al and "spawn of al".

scho63 02-29-2020 06:10 PM

It's JON not John

Shiver Me Timbers 02-29-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14818964)
It's JON not John

Its Toilet not Turlit

Red Dawg 02-29-2020 08:27 PM

Can't stand him. Awful in the booth and got a ring with Tony Ds team. Fraud of a coach.

Nickhead 02-29-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14819177)
Can't stand him. Awful in the booth and got a ring with Tony Ds team. Fraud of a coach.

same can be said about barry switzer, george seifert, just in my lifetime. not sure about years before them? :thumb:

Jerok 02-29-2020 09:04 PM

I really like him and he actually makee the Raiders my second favorite team in the division.

Or should this be in the unpopular opinions thread.

Ubeja Vontell 02-29-2020 09:06 PM

What a class act this guy is. one of the most entertaining people in pro football.

Do miss him in the tv booth.

JimNasium 03-01-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14819248)
What a class act this guy is. one of the most entertaining people in pro football.

Do miss him in the tv booth.

He’s Raider scum. WTF? This place has lost its burst. Not an ounce of world class speed in this thread.

Mennonite 03-01-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14819177)
Can't stand him. Awful in the booth and got a ring with Tony Ds team. Fraud of a coach.



So he won a ring with Dungy's team. And yet HOF coach Tony Dungy couldn't win a ring with Tony Dungy's team.

stumppy 03-01-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 14819245)
I really like him and he actually makee the Raiders my second favorite team in the division.

Or should this be in the unpopular opinions thread.

This mofo needs to spend some time in Romper Room. Enough time to rethink some of his life decisions.

stumppy 03-01-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14819248)
What a class act this guy is. one of the most entertaining people in pro football.

Do miss him in the tv booth.

Time to throw you back in the pit.

Red Dawg 03-01-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 14819459)
So he won a ring with Dungy's team. And yet HOF coach Tony Dungy couldn't win a ring with Tony Dungy's team.

Point being he never built anything or sustained it. Dungy never did either.

RINGLEADER 03-01-2020 10:56 AM

Jon Gruden is actually very good at what he does but his offense is stuck in the NFL of 20 years ago. I don’t mind him but he’s never going to beat the Chiefs the way he coaches.

SuperBowl4 03-01-2020 11:00 AM

Jon Gruden is not worth $10 Million a year. The guy only won a Super Bowl because Tony Dungy built that Buc's team. Just like how Barry Switzer did with the Cowboys after Jimmy left. There are no state taxes in Nevada. Gruden'$ RAIDER$!

chiefforlife 03-01-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 14819601)
Jon Gruden is not worth $10 Million a year. The guy only won a Super Bowl because Tony Dungy built that Buc's team. Just like how Barry Switzer did with the Cowboys after Jimmy left. There are no state taxes in Nevada. Gruden'$ RAIDER$!

Not really...Dungys team never won a Super Bowl until Gruden took it over.

Switzers team had already won Super Bowls BEFORE he got there, same with Seifert.

Baby Lee 03-01-2020 02:19 PM

I thought John Grudman was dead?

jdubya 03-01-2020 05:39 PM

Unable to open the link but were his lips moving? If he was praising any players that is the kiss of death as those he praises most end up being traded lol.....

Ubeja Vontell 03-01-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 14819488)
Time to throw you back in the pit.

Time for you to realize Gruden is a great communicator, one of the best,

Buehler445 03-02-2020 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14820473)
Time for you to realize Gruden is a great communicator, one of the best,

Eh maybe. Probably not though. Doesn’t matter how well you communicate it if your message is straight out of the asshole playbook.

From all his time his rap has been he wants vets because he can’t get along with rookies and young guys. Being able to communicate is a far cry from effective coach.

Ubeja Vontell 03-02-2020 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14820638)
Eh maybe. Probably not though. Doesn’t matter how well you communicate it if your message is straight out of the asshole playbook.

From all his time his rap has been he wants vets because he can’t get along with rookies and young guys. Being able to communicate is a far cry from effective coach.

Where do you get.....asshole playbook....from?

There is no coach I'd rather listen to than Gruden, the guy simply has.....IT.

Buehler445 03-02-2020 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14820640)
Where do you get.....asshole playbook....from?

There is no coach I'd rather listen to than Gruden, the guy simply has.....IT.

Like. ... On TV? Like I give a **** about any announcers. He was better than the clown show that replaced him but he didn’t move the needle much for me. Pretty much the only color guys whom I give a shot about what they have to say are Romo and Bilas.

But why the **** are we talking about his TV presence as a pillar of his coaching.

LOTS of mother****ers didn’t want to play for the guy. He had no time for you g guys (which is intergalactically stupid) and he almost killed Chris Simms.

Glad he’s not here. There was a lot of TLJ about Gruden or Cowher before Reid. I’d have quit football. Gruden hasn’t been an unmitigated disaster, but the mitigating controls surrounding the disaster are tenuous at best.

Ubeja Vontell 03-02-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14820644)
Like. ... On TV? Like I give a **** about any announcers. He was better than the clown show that replaced him but he didn’t move the needle much for me. Pretty much the only color guys whom I give a shot about what they have to say are Romo and Bilas.

But why the **** are we talking about his TV presence as a pillar of his coaching.

LOTS of mother****ers didn’t want to play for the guy. He had no time for you g guys (which is intergalactically stupid) and he almost killed Chris Simms.

Glad he’s not here. There was a lot of TLJ about Gruden or Cowher before Reid. I’d have quit football. Gruden hasn’t been an unmitigated disaster, but the mitigating controls surrounding the disaster are tenuous at best.

We all have our opinions, right?

I think the guy is great, he has it going.

TripleThreat 03-02-2020 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14819502)
Point being he never built anything or sustained it. Dungy never did either.

That makes 0 sense. You can’t say Gruden won with dungy’s team, but then say dungy didn’t build anything... Clearly tony did build a team, and Gruden won with said team. Give respect where it’s due, don’t be a ***** about it

Simply Red 03-02-2020 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14819248)
What a class act this guy is. one of the most entertaining people in pro football.

Do miss him in the tv booth.

Figures your stupid ass would like him.

Ubeja Vontell 03-02-2020 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14820658)
Figures your stupid ass would like him.

I'm not the only one who likes him ya dumb ****.

jjchieffan 03-02-2020 07:40 AM

I used to think that the Ubeja hate was unwarranted. But seeing him choose love for Gruden as his point to defend and continue to defend this morning, I can see it now. I mean, defend your opinion all you want. But to defend a Raider's coach on a Chiefs board is just asking for a fight.

RealSNR 03-02-2020 08:20 AM

Gruden can’t coach young players. Yeah, there are the rare exceptions, but for the most part he’s a flaming douche who can’t teach.

Derek Carr ain’t great, but Andy Reid could have taken him to the playoffs multiple times. He’s done it in the past with much less. Gruden wants a time machine and Rich Gannon to fall out of the sky, and it’s just not going to happen for him

Warrior5 03-02-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 14819456)
He’s Raider scum. WTF? This place has lost its burst. Not an ounce of world class speed in this thread.

:LOL:

Love the old Planet reference!

Ubeja Vontell 03-02-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14820742)
I used to think that the Ubeja hate was unwarranted. But seeing him choose love for Gruden as his point to defend and continue to defend this morning, I can see it now. I mean, defend your opinion all you want. But to defend a Raider's coach on a Chiefs board is just asking for a fight.

I don't play that siliness, hell, how many teams did Deion, Herschel Walker, Eric Dickerson play for a dozen? So hate ya Marcus Allen UNTIL he became a Chief? Joe Montana sucked until he became a Chief?

Way too much movement to play OURS, YOURS.

Andy Reid coached who?

Kiimo 03-02-2020 04:50 PM

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Valiant 03-02-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 14819601)
Jon Gruden is not worth $10 Million a year. The guy only won a Super Bowl because Tony Dungy built that Buc's team. Just like how Barry Switzer did with the Cowboys after Jimmy left. There are no state taxes in Nevada. Gruden'$ RAIDER$!

And he beat his raiders team he built.

Chief Pagan 03-02-2020 05:47 PM

Yeah if you are going to say Gruden won with Dungys team you should point out that the Raiders team Gruden built made it to the SB.

I think it’s a hoot Faiders are paying 10 mil a year.

Don’t really care but I’m not forgiving Gruden for leaving MNF and sticking us with Booger.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-02-2020 06:20 PM

Personally I like Gruden as well as Mayock and eagerly await watching the draft they execute. Don't get me wrong ,I hate the Raiders but not as much as the Donkeys. They're gonna draft well again this year but big paydays are coming down the road with four 1st round picks the last two years.

Gruden is definitely entertaining especially when they're losing but hey, we got the GOAT now and watching them trying to catch us is just fun just like Denver. LOL.

Megatron96 03-02-2020 06:47 PM

That was an interesting Gruden interview. Very different form most if not all of the ones he gave in 2019. Not sure what to make of that.

I always thought Gruden was a solid coach. I still think that he'll end up being successful with the Raiders. He got saddled with a bad team and a marginal QB, And then had to take some gambles on FAs that mostly didn't work out, but it won't surprise me at all if Mayock and Gruden make some solid picks in this year's draft, and start turning things around over there. Assuming they get rid of Carr, get some DBs, and a pass rusher, that is.

Okay, he didn't get saddled with that team, he pretty much chose to become the HC of the Raiders, so he bought that team. The point being that he inherited a bad team with a lot of holes in it. The next two seasons are going to tell the story of whether Gruden is one of the better NFL coaches in the 21st century.


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