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wazu 03-01-2019 02:55 PM

Report: Chiefs trying to land big-name offensive free agent, maybe Bell
 
From our good friend LaCanfora...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ready for a shocker? There’s now a report saying the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> could be trying to land a big-name offensive player in free agency — maybe even Le’Veon Bell (via <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowheadphones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Arrowheadphones</a>): <a href="https://t.co/eAXpO0u73d">https://t.co/eAXpO0u73d</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1101583174302351360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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siberian khatru 03-01-2019 02:56 PM

Thank you for making this a separate thread

Direckshun 03-01-2019 02:56 PM

I have been on the Bell train for a couple months.

I know it puts me in the stark minority here, but our offense cannot be stopped with Bell in KC.

Hoover 03-01-2019 02:57 PM

Do. Not. Want.

Dunerdr 03-01-2019 02:57 PM

not bell id bet on cole beasly or something.

The Franchise 03-01-2019 02:58 PM

If we want to trade for a RB....I'd be looking at guys like Theo Riddick or Duke Johnson.

Kman34 03-01-2019 02:59 PM

What??!! Bell and Mahomes would be a deadly combination.. don’t think they can do it with the cap but wow ..think of the offensive production..

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 02:59 PM

Not interested in paying blockbuster contracts to RB's.

wazu 03-01-2019 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14130481)
I have been on the Bell train for a couple months.

I know it puts me in the stark minority here, but our offense cannot be stopped with Bell in KC.

Our offense being stopped hasn't been our problem. We lose when we score 50 points.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14130488)
If we want to trade for a RB....I'd be looking at guys like Theo Riddick or Duke Johnson.

Yuck no thanks

Hoover 03-01-2019 03:00 PM

I'd be more excited about a legit center.

Reid has never needed a stud RB in that position. His system creates legit rbs.

Hoover 03-01-2019 03:01 PM

screw trading, just go sign Coleman from ATL to Howard from the Bears.

The Franchise 03-01-2019 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14130500)
screw trading, just go sign Coleman from ATL to Howard from the Bears.

Coleman? Yes. Howard? **** no.

Dunerdr 03-01-2019 03:02 PM

the tweet says trade for. they dont have to trade for leveon. so count that out hillbillies.

New World Order 03-01-2019 03:03 PM

How the hell would we afford Bell

DaFace 03-01-2019 03:04 PM

I'd frankly be a bit pissed if we threw a ton of money at a damn running back.

wazu 03-01-2019 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 14130502)
the tweet says trade for. they dont have to trade for leveon. so count that out hillbillies.

Not sure what tweet you're reading, but you might want to check again.

WhawhaWhat 03-01-2019 03:04 PM

I'd rather draft Bryce Love if he falls in the 2nd round.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 14130502)
the tweet says trade for. they dont have to trade for leveon. so count that out hillbillies.

Right.

Im thinking Antonio Brown.

LMAO

Could you imagine?

Hill/Brown/Watkins/Kelce

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14130510)
I'd rather draft Bryce Love if he falls in the 2nd round.

**** no.

That dude is not built for the NFL.

dj56dt58 03-01-2019 03:06 PM

No thanks, we need defense

Gravedigger 03-01-2019 03:06 PM

Yeah, if you trade Sammy Watkins maybe... maybe.

FAX 03-01-2019 03:07 PM

This sounds like slow news day noise, to me.

Why would we blow up the remainder of our pitiful cap on a single player we probably don't even actually need?

I need more evidence.

FAX

pugsnotdrugs19 03-01-2019 03:07 PM

No thanks on Bell. Too much money for the position.

Veach said yesterday to the public that it was Damien’s job to lose, so he’s not going to bring in Bell. That would be Veach taking the job from Damien.

New World Order 03-01-2019 03:07 PM

I wouldn't even punt. Like ever.

4 chances to get 10 yards with Mahomes, Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Bell LMAO

tyton75 03-01-2019 03:08 PM

Isn't he up to like 265lbs or something?? I mean, if he came in on the cheap; its worth a shot. But he won't and its not.

threebag 03-01-2019 03:08 PM

**** Yeah!!! Going to trade with Cleveland for Kareem Hunt




Edit... just read free agent not a trade.

BossChief 03-01-2019 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14130514)
Right.

Im thinking Antonio Brown.

LMAO

Could you imagine?

Hill/Brown/Watkins/Kelce

I mentioned this in the Brown thread and I’m not advocating for the move, but if we traded for AB the offense would be completely unable to be defended by any defense in the league.

The Franchise 03-01-2019 03:12 PM

No former Steelers please.

TambaBerry 03-01-2019 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14130528)
I mentioned this in the Brown thread and I’m not advocating for the move, but if we traded for AB the offense would be completely unable to be defended by any defense in the league.

If we traded for brown we would have to have them take Watkins

Couch-Potato 03-01-2019 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14130481)
I have been on the Bell train for a couple months.

I know it puts me in the stark minority here, but our offense cannot be stopped with Bell in KC.

Same. Can’t think of anyone else that would do more to make us Super Bowl contenders. CP overthinking things a bit when they say that they don't want the league's #1 RB. WTF

staylor26 03-01-2019 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14130536)
No former Steelers please.

Unless it were JuJu and that ain’t happening

The Franchise 03-01-2019 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14130540)
Unless it were JuJu and that ain’t happening

Exactly. He's the only one I'd take.

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:14 PM

Golden Tate is really the only other guy not named Bell I'd consider a "big name"...

Buehler445 03-01-2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14130508)
I'd frankly be a bit pissed if we threw a ton of money at a damn running back.

Indefensible IMO.

The production per unit salary cap is far far more efficient with Williams than it is Bell. Even if the production is lower.

And that’s before him being a headcase.

TambaBerry 03-01-2019 03:15 PM

Maybe veach is reeruned

staylor26 03-01-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14130544)
Golden Tate is really the only other guy not named Bell I'd consider a "big name"...

He said trades also

Otter 03-01-2019 03:17 PM

I'd like you meet Mr. Slim and Mr. None.</br></br>Mr. Slim is catching a train out of town in 10 minutes.

Couch-Potato 03-01-2019 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14130545)
Indefensible IMO.

The production per unit salary cap is far far more efficient with Williams than it is Bell. Even if the production is lower.

And that’s before him being a headcase.

Common business mistake. Production (Rev) > Margins, every-time.

RunKC 03-01-2019 03:20 PM

How in the **** could this team afford AB with the monster contracts we are about to give?

$22.1 million alone for 2019 LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 03-01-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 14130553)
Common business mistake. Production (Rev) > Margins, every-time.

They’d likely be sacrificing defensive production to make it happen though, to the point that the overall team production suffers with Bell.

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14130549)
He said trades also

In that case, looking at 2020 free agents provides an interesting list.

A.J Green could be a guy we get for 2019 who would be a FA in 2020.

No long term cap implications.

RunKC 03-01-2019 03:23 PM

Maybe DeSean Jackson? He’s got a $10 million cap hit. He’s 32 though.

Jerm 03-01-2019 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14130562)
In that case, looking at 2020 free agents provides an interesting list.

A.J Green could be a guy we get for 2019 who would be a FA in 2020.

No long term cap implications.

This is exactly the name I had in mind....

Couch-Potato 03-01-2019 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14130559)
They’d likely be sacrificing defensive production to make it happen though, to the point that the overall team production suffers with Bell.

Truth be told, we don't have the slightest clue who thier after.

Could be our strategy is to spend on offense and churn through young guys on D. Maybe we draft all D again and keep doing so to keep the cost low on that side of the ball?

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14130523)
I wouldn't even punt. Like ever.

4 chances to get 10 yards with Mahomes, Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Bell LMAO

**** Bell. Give me Antonio Brown.

Brown for Houston. Win/win for both teams.

wazu 03-01-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14130562)
In that case, looking at 2020 free agents provides an interesting list.

A.J Green could be a guy we get for 2019 who would be a FA in 2020.

No long term cap implications.

Just had surgery on his toe that kept him sidelined half of 2018. Add another guy with foot problems?

Seriously, no thanks to any of this. Fix the damned defense.

BryanBusby 03-01-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14130562)
In that case, looking at 2020 free agents provides an interesting list.

A.J Green could be a guy we get for 2019 who would be a FA in 2020.

No long term cap implications.

AJ Green is the biggedt revenue generator in Cincinnati, so only way he goes is if he forces it.

Sassy Squatch 03-01-2019 03:28 PM

Wut? Our defense sucks and our offense already plays at a record setting level.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2019 03:29 PM

The offense would break every record it set last year.

YOLO, BRETT!

YOLO!!!!

BryanBusby 03-01-2019 03:31 PM

Big name Offensive player? OBJ comes to mind.

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14130578)
Wut? Our defense sucks and our offense already plays at a record setting level.

I'd say it's an indictment of how poorly management thinks Sutton performed last year.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14130578)
Wut? Our defense sucks and our offense already plays at a record setting level.

Dont be afraid of greatness.

Sassy Squatch 03-01-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14130581)
I'd say it's an indictment of how poorly management thinks Sutton performed last year.

Cool. You plan to get rid of at least Houston and possibly Berry too. There isn't much talent defensively.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14130579)
The offense would break every record it set last year.

YOLO, BRETT!

YOLO!!!!

MOAR POINTS

MWAHAHAHAHA

gblowfish 03-01-2019 03:32 PM

Smokescreen.
Any free agent money we have available needs to go to the defense. Especially if they trade or cut Houston, and cut Berry. As one of the other posters said earlier, we scored over 50 points in a game last year and LOST. Defense Defense Defense...rinse, repeat.

KC Dan 03-01-2019 03:34 PM

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wazu 03-01-2019 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14130574)
AJ Green is the biggedt revenue generator in Cincinnati, so only way he goes is if he forces it.

The Bengals are an incompetent, irrational organization. Nobody can accurately predict their next move other than it will be a failure.

Iconic 03-01-2019 03:35 PM

This has to be a troll right? Veach doesn't seem like he could be this stupid.

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14130585)
Cool. You plan to get rid of at least Houston and possibly Berry too. There isn't much talent defensively.

I'm not arguing for or against it. I purely made a statement of why the team could be considering adding offensive talent.

BryanBusby 03-01-2019 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14130592)
The Bengals are an incompetent, irrational organization. Nobody can accurately predict their next move other than it will be a failure.

Well yeah, but even a bad dumb team knows jettisoning a revenue generator typically doesn't work out.

staylor26 03-01-2019 03:36 PM

I have to say, looking around I don’t see a lot of realistic options that fit the bill. I think if we make a big move, it’ll be defense.

You never know though, maybe Reid thinks he can somewhat replicate what the Pats do defensively, in terms of making it look much better than the talent on paper, with this All-Star defensive staff.

O.city 03-01-2019 03:36 PM

Surely not

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:38 PM

Trade Houston for Brown, trade a 2nd & 3rd for Ramsey, take the top S & OLB with your first two picks...then fill in a TE and RB in the later rounds.

Sit back and watch the $$$ come in.

Halfcan 03-01-2019 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14130580)
Big name Offensive player? OBJ comes to mind.

Yep, this is what I was thinking too.

He is a headcase, but a huge weapon.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14130612)
Yep, this is what I was thinking too.

He is a headcase, but a huge weapon.

He'll cost more in a trade than Antonio Brown because he's younger.

My dudes, stop being afraid of greatness. You can address the defense while still adding yet another play maker for the reigning league MVP.

Bump 03-01-2019 03:40 PM

He'd fit the offense well, good pass catcher which is great. But after sitting out a full year that concerns me too much and it's a RB and we need defense.

staylor26 03-01-2019 03:41 PM

I do agree though, if we’re talking stars, Odell is the only one that makes sense.

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14130612)
Yep, this is what I was thinking too.

He is a headcase, but a huge weapon.

I really think any trade we'd make would be for a short term rental of a top offensive player at the end of a contract.

I don't see the team blowing up the cap knowing they are going to have to fork over a ton of dollars to Mahomes starting next season.

If we do make this kind of trade I'd assume it means we are only planning on locking up one of Jones and Hill this off-season and will have to negotiate with the other next off-season.

suzzer99 03-01-2019 03:44 PM

I'm starting to think that you never want a non-QB on what they know is their last NFL contract. Between CTE fear and everything else I think they rarely play as hard as they could. Bell knows this would be his last contract - so pass.

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14130618)
I do agree though, if we’re talking stars, Odell is the only one that makes sense.

Nope. He'd cost more in a trade and the Giants already said they're not trading.

Antonio Brown. He can probably be had for less than people think because the Steeler's are desperate to trade him. And he's drama.

He fits the bill perfectly. Andy Reid the player's coach will get him to settle down for two seasons. After that the Chiefs can cut bait on his ass.

RunKC 03-01-2019 03:45 PM

DJ has a good point about this in the other thread.

Quote:

Been sayin' this for a month.

The defensive talent is better than it's production. A nice infusion will help it get to slightly above average but it doesn't need every thin red dime of draft/cap capital this offseason.

If the most talented player on our board is an offensive player at any point in the draft or at EVERY point in the draft, take the offensive player.

Unless you have a 23 year old MVP quarterback, within 3 seasons EVERY position on an NFL team is going to be one of need. And with rookie contracts running 4-5 years AND with the necessary learning curve, any great player you acquire at any position will be a player you need before that rookie contract ends.

I'm very glad to hear this.


ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:47 PM

I can already hear Veach's voice, "When you have an opportunity to add a talent like Antonio Brown to your roster, you take it..."

ntexascardfan 03-01-2019 03:48 PM

Crazy question...but if we got a guy like AB would we cut Sammy post june 1?

We'd save ~4 million against the cap this season and over 12 next year...

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14130627)
DJ has a good point about this in the other thread.

I said that before DJ in that thread, but that's cool.

staylor26 03-01-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14130625)
Nope. He'd cost more in a trade and the Giants already said they're not trading.

Antonio Brown. He can probably be had for less than people think because the Steeler's are desperate to trade him. And he's drama.

He fits the bill perfectly. Andy Reid the player's coach will get him to settle down for two seasons. After that the Chiefs can cut bait on his ass.

Two reasons why Brown doesn’t make sense to me:

1. The character concerns are just that bad. Just seems like too much for even Reid.

2. I don’t think the Steelers would trade him to a team in the AFC with an MVP QB anyways.

Sassy Squatch 03-01-2019 03:48 PM

**** Antonio Brown. That's the one name I'd actually be upset by. Dude throws temper tantrums when he's not getting the ball and this offense spreads it out to multiple weapons.

O.city 03-01-2019 03:51 PM

https://twitter.com/mattverderame/st...987999744?s=21

ToxSocks 03-01-2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14130634)
Two reasons why Brown doesn’t make sense to me:

1. The character concerns are just that bad. Just seems like too much for even Reid.

2. I don’t think the Steelers would trade him to a team in the AFC with an MVP QB anyways.

2nd one i get.

1st one? Naaaah. He'd be coming here as a two year rental. ODB requires a longer commitment.

Reid is a players coach and Mahomes is a non-combative superstar personality. They could co-exist for two seasons.

After that, he's gone.

Brown is the perfect short term rental for a team that wants to be loooooaded.

nychief 03-01-2019 03:53 PM

It's an offensive league, this doesn't surprise me.


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