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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-11-2018 04:34 PM

Salary Cap Projections 2019!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL told its teams today that the 2019 salary cap is projected to be in the range of $187-to-$191.1 millon.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1072617582690267141?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></

TribalElder 12-11-2018 04:35 PM

what does this mean for us?

JakeF 12-11-2018 04:37 PM

There has been a 40 percent increase in the salary cap since the 2014 season ($133 million) and it would be the sixth consecutive year the cap is projected to climb more than $10 million per club year over year.

JakeF 12-11-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13952538)
what does this mean for us?

Not much, everyone gets the same increase so it's all relative.

ToxSocks 12-11-2018 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13952547)
Not much, everyone gets the same increase so it's all relative.

No.

It means the Chiefs will have the coin to sign a Landon Collins or an Earl Thomas.

JakeF 12-11-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13952553)
No.

It means the Chiefs will have the coin to sign a Landon Collins or an Earl Thomas.

Everyone else will have more coin to sign them too. Their teams will have more coin to keep them. The total cap number is always relative, it's about what teams choose to do with it.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2018 04:44 PM

Really tough tough decisions coming.

I think signing tyreek is a given.
I think we will lose maybe Conley, Bailey, harris, morse maybe even Nelson
Butker will get paid. Losing kareem puts us in a weird spot with ware. Ford... Who knows.

Thats just to keep the current roster together. The good news is we get huge relief if we restructure houston

The Franchise 12-11-2018 04:47 PM

Right now, overthecap.com has the projected salary cap at $190 million. With that being factored in, we are sitting at $40 million in cap space for 2019.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-11-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13952560)
Really tough tough decisions coming.

I think signing tyreek is a given.
I think we will lose maybe Conley, Bailey, harris, morse maybe even Nelson
Butker will get paid. Losing kareem puts us in a weird spot with ware. Ford... Who knows.

Thats just to keep the current roster together. The good news is we get huge relief if we restructure houston

Tyreek is a must this offseason. Absolute must. Pay him 20 mil a year. He’s earned it. Re sign Bailey for cheap. Maybe 3-4 mil a year. Ford franchise him. And sign a damn safety

O.city 12-11-2018 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13952560)
Really tough tough decisions coming.

I think signing tyreek is a given.
I think we will lose maybe Conley, Bailey, harris, morse maybe even Nelson
Butker will get paid. Losing kareem puts us in a weird spot with ware. Ford... Who knows.

Thats just to keep the current roster together. The good news is we get huge relief if we restructure houston

I'd keep Tyreek and Morse if he's cheapish due to injury.

The rest, nah have a good career.

Maybe Harris cause he'll not be too expensive.

JakeF 12-11-2018 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13952560)
Really tough tough decisions coming.

I think signing tyreek is a given.
I think we will lose maybe Conley, Bailey, harris, morse maybe even Nelson
Butker will get paid. Losing kareem puts us in a weird spot with ware. Ford... Who knows.

Thats just to keep the current roster together. The good news is we get huge relief if we restructure houston

Nelson probably gets paid even though he shouldn't

Harris can hit the road, tired of his dumb stuff
Conley how much is an average #3 or #4 possession wr worth?
Bailey still has some gas in the tank but not 8 million worth.
Ford is a huge question mark

RunKC 12-11-2018 04:50 PM

I hope Houston signs a deal like Suggs. Dude already got the big bag. Stay a little longer and win with Mahomes.

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O.city 12-11-2018 04:51 PM

You're gonna have to extend Houston to get his number down.

I think he's still really good but i'm not sure he'd do that.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-11-2018 04:53 PM

Houston is still worth 10 mil a year. Not 20

JakeF 12-11-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13952572)
You're gonna have to extend Houston to get his number down.

I think he's still really good but i'm not sure he'd do that.

I don't imagine that Houston would have a problem signing an extension. Extending Houston doesn't reduce his pay it just spreads out the cap hit. An extension will also likely force the Chiefs to keep him longer due to the cap. I'm not sure keeping Houston longer is a good thing, his knees are already slowing him down.

I don't think Houston will take any kind of pay cut. He will tell the Chiefs to pay him or cut him.

Chief Roundup 12-11-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13952560)
Really tough tough decisions coming.

I think signing tyreek is a given.
I think we will lose maybe Conley, Bailey, harris, morse maybe even Nelson
Butker will get paid. Losing kareem puts us in a weird spot with ware. Ford... Who knows.

Thats just to keep the current roster together. The good news is we get huge relief if we restructure houston

He just did that last year or the year before. He won't do it again. It should be Berry this time.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2018 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13952606)
I don't imagine that Houston would have a problem signing an extension. Extending Houston doesn't reduce his pay it just spreads out the cap hit. An extension will also likely force the Chiefs to keep him longer due to the cap. I'm not sure keeping Houston longer is a good thing, his knees are already slowing him down.

I don't think Houston will take any kind of pay cut. He will tell the Chiefs to pay him or cut him.

The Chiefs have enough leverage over Houston next year that they could ask him to take a paycut if it means adding extra years with more guaranteed money. For sure Houston won't just blindly take a paycut. But I'm sure he'd take an extension that's much more representative of his current value, and I could see him taking a small hometown discount.

O.city 12-11-2018 06:29 PM

Houston restructuring may free up some cap space but that just kicks the can down the road

saphojunkie 12-11-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13952693)
Houston restructuring may free up some cap space but that just kicks the can down the road

It also greatly diminishes the size of the can. I think a LOT of decisions will come down to how this postseason plays out.

CaliforniaChief 12-11-2018 06:29 PM

I'd extend Houston. He's still a playmaker. We're not talking about a mega contract like the current one.

Definitely extend Tyreek, Chris Jones.

And yeah, options in free agency. Yes, all the teams have the same increase in cap room. But we're the only team with Patrick Mahomes. So if the numbers are even, we have a better chance.

O.city 12-11-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13952690)
The Chiefs have enough leverage over Houston next year that they could ask him to take a paycut if it means adding extra years with more guaranteed money. For sure Houston won't just blindly take a paycut. But I'm sure he'd take an extension that's much more representative of his current value, and I could see him taking a small hometown discount.

It would be a discount for those years, it won’t bring his current contract down

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13952679)
He just did that last year or the year before. He won't do it again. It should be Berry this time.

I don't think you could restructure Berry's contract without just making him harder to cut further down the road. Barring Berry doing it out of charity which he has no reason to do.

RINGLEADER 12-11-2018 06:33 PM

People we must resign are:

Tyreek Hill
Dee Ford (though I'd probably just tag him)
Chris Jones

Restructure, if possible:

Justin Houston

If possible:

Steven Nelson

FA:

Secondary

Draft:

RB
LB
TE
Fatty

ToxSocks 12-11-2018 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13952557)
Everyone else will have more coin to sign them too. Their teams will have more coin to keep them. The total cap number is always relative, it's about what teams choose to do with it.

Lol so. It's not like they're going to pay a F/A 40Mill per season.

Another team having coin has nothing to do with the Chiefs ability to sign a top tier F/A.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2018 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13952693)
Houston restructuring may free up some cap space but that just kicks the can down the road

That's assuming he's not in their long-term plans. Which given his knees... maybe that's the case. But if the Chiefs want him 5 years down the road, they can restructure him and give him a slightly above market contract. This isn't a desperation restructure play. We can actually cut him next year so Houston doesn't have much leverage here. Unless he wants to test the market and hope they'll pay more than what KC offers him.

Chief Northman 12-11-2018 06:46 PM

Jack and Shit free agency crop for 2019 at the majority of positions EXCEPT Safety.

Earl Thomas
Landon Collins
Tyrann Mathieu
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
to name a few....

Re-sign/extend our own and draft secondary, linebacker, running back. Great DL depth in this draft.

mcaj22 12-11-2018 07:01 PM

They should call up the Cardinals and trade for David Johnson. He's in his prime and has a friendly contract for an elite upper tier RB. Their coaching staff sucks and doesn't know offense and Josh Rosen is terrible. DJ has no time for that rebuild.

Chief Roundup 12-11-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13952706)
People we must resign are:

Tyreek Hill
Dee Ford (though I'd probably just tag him)
Chris Jones

Restructure, if possible:

Justin Houston

If possible:

Steven Nelson

FA:

Secondary

Draft:

RB
LB
TE
Fatty

He is a UFA.

Mr. Wizard 12-11-2018 07:29 PM

WE MUST SIGN SCANDRICK AT ALL COSTS :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

pugsnotdrugs19 12-11-2018 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13952722)
Jack and Shit free agency crop for 2019 at the majority of positions EXCEPT Safety.

Earl Thomas
Landon Collins
Tyrann Mathieu
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
to name a few....

Re-sign/extend our own and draft secondary, linebacker, running back. Great DL depth in this draft.

This is how I feel, and everything Veach has ever said suggests he will be thinking the same. His philosophy is to get positions in FA that he feels he can’t get easily in the draft, and vise versa. Well, safety is deeeeeep in FA but lacking through the draft.

He said last year that they tried to trade for Watkins and Hitchens during 2017 training camp. So knowing that they tried to trade for Thomas and Collins, I expect them to be at the top of their wish list.

I don’t expect a ton more out of them in FA though. Just some depth pieces here and there.

Hoover 12-11-2018 07:43 PM

The ONLY place I’d spend some coin in free agency is at the safety position.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-11-2018 07:52 PM

We need a damn safety!!

loochy 12-12-2018 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 13952809)
We need a damn safety!!

No, we need TWO safeties.

tyton75 12-12-2018 09:08 AM

Its not sexy, but we need to shore up our interior OL so we don't get Mahomie killed. He was taking some SHOTS against Baltimore.

Lzen 12-12-2018 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 13953428)
Its not sexy, but we need to shore up our interior OL so we don't get Mahomie killed. He was taking some SHOTS against Baltimore.

The starting offensive line is good. But we have several injuries that we've been dealing with all season. Perhaps we need to upgrade the depth. It's also partly on Pat to make the right pre-snap adjustments, which he should learn to do better as time goes on.

O.city 12-12-2018 09:20 AM

I think the best thing to do would be actually to add to the WR core. They need a little quick slot guy that can run those option and arrow routes that just slay.

King_Chief_Fan 12-12-2018 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 13952809)
We need a damn safety!!

I know a team that has one, but he hasn't played in 2 years

FloridaMan88 12-12-2018 10:06 AM

Chiefs need to have a Rams-like, go all in offseason to capitalize on Mahomes still being on his rookie contract.

Hoover 12-12-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13953532)
Chiefs need to have a Rams-like, go all in offseason to capitalize on Mahomes still being on his rookie contract.

True - Which is why you might be saying goodbye to players like Berry, Houston, and Sorenson. If we are going to maximize the early window of Mahomes' rookie contract we need to free up dollars now. You just need to make sure dollars are coming off the books every year. Which means maybe you keep Houston for one more year but move on from Berry.

All that said - I still think the only thing we really need in Free Agency is a legit safety. Everything else should be depth signings. The only other thing I can see spending some coin on is OC.

Chris Meck 12-12-2018 10:36 AM

Houston's still a fine player, and a playmaker. Depending on your defensive plans for the future, extending him to provide cap relief is not the worst idea in the world.

FloridaMan88 12-12-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13953541)
I still think the only thing we really need in Free Agency is a legit safety.

Maybe a #2 CB to start opposite Fuller, unless the Chiefs plan to address that in the draft.

O.city 12-12-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13953586)
Maybe a #2 CB to start opposite Fuller, unless the Chiefs plan to address that in the draft.

I think you go pretty heavy on CB in the draft, or flip a pick for a current player there. I wouldn't go into the free agent pool, it's meh.

If you really wanna go all in on Pats rookie deal, flip your first rounder to the Jags for Ramsey.

chiefzilla1501 12-12-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13953541)
True - Which is why you might be saying goodbye to players like Berry, Houston, and Sorenson. If we are going to maximize the early window of Mahomes' rookie contract we need to free up dollars now. You just need to make sure dollars are coming off the books every year. Which means maybe you keep Houston for one more year but move on from Berry.

All that said - I still think the only thing we really need in Free Agency is a legit safety. Everything else should be depth signings. The only other thing I can see spending some coin on is OC.

Berry would cost enormous dead money. But yeah... If you can't count on him to play there's a point where you consider taking that huge punch to the gut just to get it off your books two years from now.

We should be clearing our books where we can. Every other contract until mahomes gets here should be frontloaded like watkins'.

Chris Meck 12-12-2018 12:07 PM

I would:
re-sign Damien Williams and Ware at RB
re-sign Sherman at FB
Extend Hill. Let Conley walk.

I think I move to an even line; and let Ford walk (too expensive and one dimensional). Extend Houston to lessen cap hit. I re-sign Nelson ONLY if it's a reasonable team friendly deal. Otherwise I let him walk along with Scandrick.
I sign a Grady Jarrett type at DT; I sign Landon Collins to a 5 or 6 year deal. I have Speaks condition to add strength, not drop weight and move inside. I put Kpass back at DE rotation where he's more suited.
I cut bait with Berry after June 1.
I sign a second tier CB (there are several) to compete. 2 if Nelson's gone. I just don't think with the current rules it's worth premium pay.
I draft Safety, DL, OLB in the first two rounds. I draft another RB in the 3rd.

Valiant 12-12-2018 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13952706)
People we must resign are:

Tyreek Hill
Dee Ford (though I'd probably just tag him)
Chris Jones

Restructure, if possible:

Justin Houston

If possible:

Steven Nelson

FA:

Secondary

Draft:

RB
LB
TE
Fatty

I would franchise Ford for one more year or two if he plays well. I don't think he continues at his pace for long. Honestly tag then try and trade the second year.

Jones and hill are the must haves for me. Interior rush is so crucial and harder to find.
Edge rushers I say we draft.

Ware if we can get a good deal.

Sherman is okay, unless I am missing it how often does he get snaps?

Extending Kelvin if he works out for more two tight end sets. Drop Harris.

Draft, cb, safety, in, oline, rb

Renegade 12-12-2018 12:26 PM

I really wish I worked for a company that had 53 employees and the company HAD to give these employees $10 Million total amongst them to retain them.

BossChief 12-12-2018 01:00 PM

The cap is 177.2 for 2018 and Aaron Rodgers signed an extension that averages 33.5 million per year. That’s 18.9% of the cap. That’s on par with most of the big name QBs extensions over the last few years. 17.5%-19%.

The cap is predicted to rise to 191m next year...a rise of roughly 7.8%. That’s Pats third year.

If the cap rises another 7.8% the following year, it will be roughly 205m. That’s Pats fourth year. That’s probably the best time to extend him.

If it rises that same amount and KC gives him the same size slice of the pie that Rodgers got, that’s 39million per year average on a new deal/extension.

BossChief 12-12-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13952706)
People we must resign are:

Tyreek Hill
Dee Ford (though I'd probably just tag him)
Chris Jones

Restructure, if possible:

Justin Houston

If possible:

Steven Nelson

FA:

Secondary

Draft:

RB
LB
TE
Fatty

If we don’t re-sign Nelson, the only true corner we have under contract for 2019 is Fuller.


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