Chris Jones was the steal of the 2016 draft
 

How in the hell did this guy fall to the 2nd rd? He was the 10th DL taken in that class somehow.

It was a strong DL class, but Chris Jones looks as good as any of them minus Bosa.

6 strait games with a sack and 7 overall. Is he the best interior rusher in the league not named Aaron Donald?

YIP

And I called it :D

And when Ford and Houston are rushing the passer he's deadly.

What we got 5 sacks today?

The guy looks unblockable when he decides to turn up.

Yeah but his dick fell out of his shorts.

Ford causes a lot of those

Yeah, Dorsey really nailed some picks. His first Cleveland class is looking pretty good. Chubb had a big day today

YEEP

The combination of Ford, Houston & Jones is pretty formidable.

Sutton needs to unleash them more though.


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He has already bested Dontari Poes career 6 sack year, with a whole lotta football left to play... its time to retire the talk about his motor, he is having a helluva year

Extend Chris Jones
Extend Dee Ford (Sammy Watkins format contract)
Let Houston play one more season then cut him in Spring 2020 ($1.5 million dead money | $17.5 million saved)
Draft another pass rusher next Spring

Profit

Chris Jones has been my favorite player on the D-line.

Even when some were shitting on him

Don’t forget Tyreek. We need to extend a Tyreek now while it’s cheap.

Ford can **** off, contract year and a season ending injury waiting to happen.

Jones had a hell of day and 6 straight games with a sack, he's a beast.

A few short months ago I would've agreed, but not anymore

Showing all the signs of being a classic late bloomer... its a risk worth taking

A bird in hand...

Yes

Don't extend Ford. We should tag him and make him prove it for one more season at least.

We need 1 more Chris Jones in the draft next year and the run stopping part of this defense will be purty good.

Bailey has 5 sacks too.

This D-line is a wrecking crew on par with some of those 90s Chiefs d-lines.

Who was it this preseason saying that Bailey sucked and we should just cut him and put a JAG up there and do just as good or better?

Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that about Bailey.

Just shows how well they're playing off each other. I really think it's all starting with Ford taking that edge. He's been absolutely insane and a real gamechanger.

Arrowhead will give us a huge advantage in the playoffs with that pass rush.

Idk but I know there was probably more than 1.

I still don't think Bailey is worth retaining, he's gotten sacks this year but not really played that well in my opinion.

Just checked and PFF gives him a 57.5 grade for the season as well, so they also think he's pretty replaceable.

Halfcan ROFL

Will you guys put some respect on Dorsey's name??

You can't take credit for any kind of call since you suck every nut we draft.

I did it before the draft.

Just like with Hunt and Kelce.

Try again moron.

I'm still going to disagree at 15-18 per. I'd bet that's what it's going to take and that's just too damn much.

Many of us never stopped, his drafts have produced like krazy

He is an excellent judge of athletic potential - period

We can recognize that fact, and still marvel at his awful contracts... and interpersonal skills, apparently

It WOULD be, but we have a all-world QB on his rookie contract.

I think tag and prove it makes sense; but IF the team's doctors are convinced that his back problem is fixed for real, I'd do it to extend the window.

Good point. Correction: You can't take credit for any kind of call since you suck every nut ... of a bunch of players. Way too many.

You remind me of a buddy who talks up every single fantasy rookie every year. Hard to be wrong when you "like" everyone.

Bull ****ing shit. I pimped Jones more than any other DL (or defensive player for that matter) in a really good class.

Same with Hunt and that RB class he was apart of. Pretty sure he’s one of less than a handful of guys I made a thread about that year.

You rarely post in the draft forum, so I know you’re just talking out of your ass. I have no reason to hype prospects other than I genuinely believe in the talent. I take pride in being right, so I’m not going to “like” everyone because I don’t want to be wrong.

Carry on ****ing moron.

yip

Whoever it was, they were well within their rights.

At his 2017 level of play, Bailey wouldn't be worth what we're paying him. He's stepped it up a couple notches this year and.. oh, yep. Look at that, he's in a contract year. Shocking.

I never got The Dorsey haters. Guy was tits on draft picks, he was just in over his head on contracts and the salary cap like so many other execs.

If I could tolerate watching us play defense I'd have an opinion. He looks OK calling for the crowd noise every 3rd down conversion the opponent converts though.

Just to clear the air, I'm talking about tagging him... we need to see a prove it year first

Yeah he had an off year but he only played 10 games and was injured. If you look at his career numbers he is not as bad as some act. There are 12 guys making more than him at his position.

dont they have jocks big enogh for the guy?

He very well may be one of the best passrushing DL in the league.

Also, I think he is top 10 in TFL. So he definately is disruptive.

He's not horrible, I just think many of us were wondering if he would be worth the inflated number in the last year of his contract.

He's playing well but he's in a contract year and our offense's historic year is clearly helping our pass rushers. Bailey, Jones and Ford are all having career years.

Good point and Hunt was the 7th rb so much for league wide pre draft scouting.

Contract years aside, Im loving this.

Seriously, we have the offense to come out and smack teams up with quick scores and then we force teams in a position to play catch up with our offense by passing the ball. Its perfect, it plays right into the defenses strength of rushing the passer. The team has established itself an identity that way and we are seeing it unfold.

I think we have him in Speaks.

What the hell do you think got Dorsey’s attention?

The defense does complement the offense well.

It kind of reminds me of those old Peyton teams in Indy with Mathis and Freeney.

Or NO when they won their SB.

I'm going to go ahead and eat crow on Ford, the dude is straight balling

Wouldn't it be awesome to see Bailey at RDE and Jones at LDE but with both Nnadi and Williams as defensive tackles playing along side each other in a 4-3? They are getting home now, but they would be even better if we used a 4-3.

With Ford and Houston rushing the QB as well when Sutton doesn't have them in pass coverage? Imagine the twists, and games that Sutton could call with those 6 guys. It would allow for easier blitz packages, and side overloads, and could even confuse opposing QBs and offensive lines as to who was going to drop back in zone pass coverage and who was rushing.

I hate Bob Sutton, and think he is crap because he can't adapt to his personnel very well, but the biggest reason I want a change at DC is because I want a different scheme instead of the 3-4. I just don't think we have the personnel to play 3-4.

Yeah, the defense looks good at home, against bad teams, but both the Browns and the Cardinals were in the game much longer than they should have been, and mostly because we can't stop the run. A 4-3 with our personnel could help solve that issue.

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So our 3-4 is second is sacks and you want to get rid of it? Especially when the guy creating most of the havoc is a straight 3-4 guy?

If we can get a good ILB most of our run defense problems will be over. We don't need to be great or even good against the run. If we're even average against the run, we can dominate games seeing as teams have to abandon the run in games to keep up with us.
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We are getting to the QB, but we are giving up 5.1 yards per carry. Denver, Cleveland, and Arizona showed the league that running the ball against our defense can be a good offensive strategy, and a great help to the defense by limiting our offensive possessions.

If we have 3 down linemen and one LB rushing the QB with success, adding a 4th down linemen wouldn't hamper our ability to pressure the QB at all.

But our ability to stop the run could help our offense possess the ball on more possessions, and with that it would more than likely allow us to score more points and put pressure on the opposing team to pass, and with an extra rusher on each play we could be much more varied in our attack of the QB.

Everyone can talk about how this is a passing league, but stopping the run in the playoffs will be a must. If Chubb and Johnson almost ran for 100 yards, Gurley in that Rams offense may run for close to 200. The Rams and McVay won't be adverse to running the ball down our throats even if they are down.

Giving up 5.1 yards per carry isnt something we can continue to do and have the playoff success we all want.

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Wanna know who is worse against the run than us? That team you keep talking about. So worst case scenario, we get into an old school 1980s shootout and just run every play.

At the end of the day, teams HAVE to pass against us. You have no choice with the way we can score the ball. Theres a reason why despite being so bad against the run, teams are only running 24 times a game against us (10th in the league). Our offense is a rush defense. It forces teams to abandon the run.
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Pass rush would be even better if we can get Houston, Jones, Ford and Speaks on the field at the same time.

Best 2nd round dick pick eva....

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Would have been nice to grab him in the first instead of trading out and taking him in the second. That 5th year option would be nice. But Veach will just have to get him extended this off season now. I really don't want to see him hit free agency.

John? Is that you? I thought you went to the Browns...

Hopefully, rumors are true that Chris Jones will give the Chiefs a hometown discount