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Best22 01-10-2018 12:18 PM

AFCCG Appearances by AFC West teams (1970-2017)
 
Raiders: 11
Broncos: 10
Chargers: 4
Chiefs: 1

Take from this what you will

If anybody says we need to keep Alex Smith because he provides "stability" and Mahomes is "risky" or heaven forbid, that Chiefs fans are "ungrateful," show them these stats

**** "playing it safe."

And are Chief fans "spoiled?" "Ungrateful?" ROFL

If we miss the playoffs during a developmental year, so be it. It'll be the same as it ever was, except this time we'll have a legit quarterback prospect. That being said we'll still have a good chance of making the postseason. Mahomes will have some weapons to throw to and the best offensive line he's ever seen in his life.

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:34 PM

I can't remember the last time SD was in the AFCCG... will have to look it up.

Nzoner 01-10-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351724)
I can't remember the last time SD was in the AFCCG... will have to look it up.

SB year against the 49er's?

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:35 PM

Wow ... 2007, totally forgot that one. I would have lost a lot of money on that guess.

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 13351726)
SB year against the 49er's?

Hell, I drew a blank about them playing in the SB in the 90s. #stanhumphries

Nzoner 01-10-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351727)
Wow ... 2007, totally forgot that one. I would have lost a lot of money on that guess.

yep,me too

Coochie liquor 01-10-2018 12:38 PM

Thank you sir, may I have another??

InChiefsHeaven 01-10-2018 12:41 PM

So, that means that since 1970, the Chiefs are the worst team in the division...

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:42 PM

So...

OAK is 5-6 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-2 overall)
DEN is 8-2 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-5 overall)

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13351741)
So, that means that since 1970, the Chiefs are the worst team in the division...

Do we count the SEA years? They never advanced to the SB when they were in the division... but, they're 1-2 in the SB since leaving for the NFC.

Nzoner 01-10-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13351741)
So, that means that since 1970, the Chiefs are the worst team in the division...

In the play-offs yes,if not mistaken they have one of or the best regular season record but too lazy to look it up.

Best22 01-10-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351744)
Do we count the SEA years? They never advanced to the SB when they were in the division... but, they're 1-2 in the SB since leaving for the NFC.

Seattle made it to an AFCCG

They are tied with us

Historically they are easily ahead of KC and the LACk

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:50 PM

This is interesting...

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/galler...32-to-1-010617

ptlyon 01-10-2018 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351768)

No, it's not

Best22 01-10-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351768)

Fell behind Cleveland due to more playoff appearances

Can't lose if you don't make it. Cleveland will continue to rise as Detroit and Cincy continue their playoff futility

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13351771)
No, it's not

I hear ya... I never would have guessed BAL at 1 or CAR in the top 10. Interesting that despite all the success of NE with Brady, they're only 4th.

Nzoner 01-10-2018 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351768)

The Browns with a pic of Bellicheck LMAO

carcosa 01-10-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351727)
Wow ... 2007, totally forgot that one. I would have lost a lot of money on that guess.

I have no memory of that whatsoever. I remember the NFCCG and of course that Super Bowl, but the Chargers even being in the AFCCG just went into a black hole

Toad 01-10-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351742)
So...

OAK is 5-6 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-2 overall)
DEN is 8-2 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-5 overall)

Thanks for rubbing it in :banghead:

Another way to look at it though is SB winning percentage:
1) raid 3-2 = 60%
2) Chiefs 1-1 = 50%
3) broncs 3-5 = 37.5%
4) bolts 0-1 = 0.0%

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13351810)
I have no memory of that whatsoever. I remember the NFCCG and of course that Super Bowl, but the Chargers even being in the AFCCG just went into a black hole

Yeah, Norv's first season ... Rivers' second season as the starter. That was part of the six year stretch where SD fans really thought things were changing and they would rule the West for decades.

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad (Post 13351816)
Thanks for rubbing it in :banghead:

Another way to look at it though is SB winning percentage:
1) raid 3-2 = 60%
2) Chiefs 1-1 = 50%
3) broncs 3-5 = 37.5%
4) bolts 0-1 = 0.0%

Oh yeah, that's an ugly number in the loss column... Denver has lost more SBs than the other 3 teams have won.

Toad 01-10-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351820)
Oh yeah, that's an ugly number in the loss column... Denver has lost more SBs than the other 3 teams have won.

Yeah, but you gotta be in it to win it as they say. 3 SB wins is the narrative most Chiefs fans are jealous of...

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad (Post 13351828)
Yeah, but you gotta be in it to win it as they say. 3 SB wins is the narrative most Chiefs fans are jealous of...

Well, sounds like most are no longer jealous because it's all rigged. Yeah?

http://www.mtv.co.uk/sites/default/f...?itok=zikG_x48

WilliamTheIrish 01-10-2018 01:19 PM

"Totally rigged NFL"/tards

Reerun_KC 01-10-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351768)



Thank you. Needed this link!!!

Toad 01-10-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351837)
Well, sounds like most are no longer jealous because it's all rigged. Yeah?

http://www.mtv.co.uk/sites/default/f...?itok=zikG_x48

Only when the broncos win :D

Nzoner 01-10-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351837)
Well, sounds like most are no longer jealous because it's all rigged. Yeah?

Super Bowl XL,I bet on the Broncos that season way back in March at 10/1 to win it all solely because Manning had announced his retirement and I thought no way in hell he was leaving the game without going out on top.

I realize that doesn't prove anything but that SB as well as a few games leading up to it i.e. Panthers/Falcons week 15 were shady as hell.

tk13 01-10-2018 01:25 PM

This stat really shrinks down once you take into account more recent times. If the Pats or Steelers win the AFC again, it'll make 29 of the last 33 years that the Patriots, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Ravens or Bills won the conference. I'm sure they've dominated the championship game appearances too. Of course it's sad we're even talking about appearances. I doubt anyone cares about that stat as much as the team that actually goes to the Super Bowl.

Best22 01-10-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351837)
Well, sounds like most are no longer jealous because it's all rigged. Yeah?

http://www.mtv.co.uk/sites/default/f...?itok=zikG_x48

Not rigged. However, 1997 deserves an asterisk

2015 was won fair and square, but Denver was lucky every other AFC contender was injury riddled. Crazy to think what a healthy Brown and Bell would have done in the divisional round...

Buehler445 01-10-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351724)
I can't remember the last time SD was in the AFCCG... will have to look it up.

You don’t remember that epic meltdown against the Cheatriots with LaDouchian?

notorious 01-10-2018 01:47 PM

Rivers played with a blown out knee while LaLabia was on the sideline with a sprained vag.

iDeaL 01-10-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351768)

So the only team more inept than the Chiefs is the Lions? Great news.

DMAC 01-10-2018 02:07 PM

No wonder this is the most sad and bitter website in existence.

ptlyon 01-10-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 13352021)
No wonder this is the most sad and bitter website in existence.

You think we should be whistling Dixie out our ass holes?

Reerun_KC 01-10-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 13352021)
No wonder this is one of the most sad franchises in existence.



Sounds about right.

Manila-Chief 01-10-2018 02:39 PM

Am I the only one that's wants a new HC because our present coach will never get us there???

Manila-Chief 01-10-2018 02:42 PM

Interesting they do not include the entire S.B. era. It's bad enough with those stats included and terrible with out them.

Graystoke 01-10-2018 02:51 PM

Dam that makes me sad

Best22 01-10-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13351971)
Rivers played with a blown out knee while LaLabia was on the sideline with a sprained vag.

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief (Post 13352139)
Interesting they do not include the entire S.B. era. It's bad enough with those stats included and terrible with out them.

That's because the AFC as is known today wasn't created until 1970. If I include AFL Championship Game appearances (in the Superbowl era) the picture gets a little better:

Raiders: 14
Broncos: 10
Chargers: 4
Chiefs: 3

Chiefs and Raiders ran **** back then

Manila-Chief 01-10-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13351875)
This stat really shrinks down once you take into account more recent times. If the Pats or Steelers win the AFC again, it'll make 29 of the last 33 years that the Patriots, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Ravens or Bills won the conference. I'm sure they've dominated the championship game appearances too. Of course it's sad we're even talking about appearances. I doubt anyone cares about that stat as much as the team that actually goes to the Super Bowl.

Great stats TK13! Didn't you leave out the Raiders or will it be even worse when they are included???

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. It seems to me that it is an ownership issue. Hate ole Al all we want ... and a bunch of us did ... but, his drive to win enabled the Raiders to play in the "big" games. Our ownership seems to be content just with the appearance of success!

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13351875)
This stat really shrinks down once you take into account more recent times. If the Pats or Steelers win the AFC again, it'll make 29 of the last 33 years that the Patriots, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Ravens or Bills won the conference. I'm sure they've dominated the championship game appearances too. Of course it's sad we're even talking about appearances. I doubt anyone cares about that stat as much as the team that actually goes to the Super Bowl.

Well, the Steelers have been consistently great since the 1970s... in my lifetime (47 years) they have had 3 head coaches. That's a mind boggling stat - since 1969, 3 coaches.

Since 1990, the Steelers have had double digit wins 17 times... in 27 years. Model of consistency with the way that franchise is managed.

Broncos, Patriots, Colts ... Elway, Brady, Manning - arguably 3 of the best to ever play the game. Bills had a string in the 90s, but have been irrelevant for decades and the Ravens, they've been solid the last two decades, but more because of defense - not elite QB play. They're the anomaly of the bunch.

What happens when those elite QBs go away? Well, look at Denver, Indy and Baltimore now.

Mile High Mania 01-10-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief (Post 13352182)
Great stats TK13! Didn't you leave out the Raiders or will it be even worse when they are included???

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. It seems to me that it is an ownership issue. Hate ole Al all we want ... and a bunch of us did ... but, his drive to win enabled the Raiders to play in the "big" games. Our ownership seems to be content just with the appearance of success!

Last 33 years was her stat range... Raiders haven't been that great the last couple of decades. They've had double digit win seasons six times since 1990. The Raiders have been .500 or worse 25 times since 1985 (32 seasons). Damn that's pathetic.

KingPriest2 01-10-2018 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=Mile High Mania;13351742]So...

OAK is 5-6 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-2 overall)
DEN is 8-2 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-5 overall)[/QUOTE

Since 70 Oakland has been to the Super Bowl 4 times not 5

Best22 01-10-2018 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=KingPriest2;13352548]
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351742)
So...

OAK is 5-6 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-2 overall)
DEN is 8-2 in AFCCGs with 3 SB wins (3-5 overall)[/QUOTE

Since 70 Oakland has been to the Super Bowl 4 times not 5

He's counting full Superbowl history. That actually works to make the Chiefs look better since we won Superbowl IV

Post merger we may as well be the Lions

Joe Seahawk 01-10-2018 09:39 PM

Seahawks 2 ;)

Edit. actually only 1 in the afc west.

How about this Russel wilson playoff wins 8
KC Chiefs playoff wins 9

FTR, I was rooting hard for you guys! you were my only team left.

Garcia Bronco 01-10-2018 10:22 PM

Man the Bucs, Seahawks, and Panthers are all expansion teams. I think the Seahawks and the bucks came into the league in like 75. The Panthers around what 1995?

The Jags and the Texans haven't made it the one yet.... Or the new Browns. But the old Browns have won two Super Bowls.

Heck even the Saints have won a Superbowl. They didn't win a playoff game in the league until like 2002 or something.

Chiefshrink 01-10-2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13351727)
Wow ... 2007, totally forgot that one. I would have lost a lot of money on that guess.

Remember when Marty finally saw himself going to the SB right after the INT by his defense that most definitely iced the game only for his DB to continue to run and then fumble the ball back in the waning moments ?

Because Marty.:shrug:


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