Bears have requested to interview Nagy for HC
 

NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports the Bears have requested to interview Chiefs OC Matt Nagy.

Nagy has now been linked to the Colts and Bears this week. He won’t be able to interview until the Chiefs are done with the playoffs. The Bears seem zeroed I’m on an offensive mind to work with last year’s No. 2 overall pick, Mitchell Trubisky. Chicago is trying to find its version of Sean McVay.

Damnit

Nagy would be great for Trubisky though

The answer is no mother****ers.

Audibly yelled no when i saw the title

That would be pretty much the perfect hire for chicago though

Obviously we have no idea what is going through he or Andy's mind, but I don't think he'd be crazy to stick around until Reid retires... assuming that's in the next 5 years of course. He'd get to work under his buddy Veach.

But maybe Andy feels like he has more left in him than that..

Kafhka is the guy who's been working alot with Pat anyway

I sure hope we can hang onto him for at least a couple years with Mahomes.

Also hearing Toub will get an interview.

Even more important to win a playoff game now. The deeper the Chiefs go, the more likely it is that Chicago/Indy/etc. will get impatient and settle on a candidate that they interview during the bye week.

I don't really care about losing Toub.

He's great when he has elite talent like Tyreek Hill and Devin Hester but just a normal dude when he's got average players.

As much as I'd like Nagy to stay, Kafka's been coaching up Alex and Pat plus Chilly is around overseeing all of it with Reid.

I would *think* that Nagy would like to stick around and work with his college teammate and long time friend, Brett Veach, but when the big bucks are offered, he would be silly to stick around.

Not surprising at all.

Hell no. Naggy is ours.

He gone

I'd rather keep him over Reid. Reid ain't winning shit as a head coach

Reid seems to be pretty good at reloading his assistant coaching positions. And he’ll have his pick because everybody knows whomever he hires will be on shortlists for HC positions in 2 years.

Bears have requested to interview Nagy for HC
 

Make him the assistant coach and tell him the job is his when Andy Leaves.

I more or less just want to keep PM in a consistent system.

As soon as Reid gave Nagy playcalling duties i considered him gone. Just like Pederson.

damn....

I like the idea of making him an assistant HC and promising him the HC job when andy leaves....

wonder if that would be enough

Nagy will announce his departure right before the playoff game like Charlie Weis did lol.

NFL needs to tell head coach-needy teams to **** off and die. Put in a rule that says you can't even ask permission until after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.

What ****ing good does it do to let them request the interview? They're just going to have to wait for the interview anyway. That could be a long time like we had to do with Haley in 2009.

As far as I'm concerned, this shit is just as bad as ****ing tampering. Even just requesting the interview.

Hope the Bears and Colts find their HC this Friday non chiefs coaches.

Yep, just like Pederson

I can live with Toub leaving, but I really want to hold onto Nagy. I feel like the offense has been clicking ever since he took over play calling and he seemed to know the type of offense he wants to run with Mahomes.

I’m trying to figure out which situations would be considered “greener pastures” than the one he has here, especially if Andy anoints him as next up.

Chi- I suppose it depends how he feels about Trubisky, but if I’m weighing him versus Pat I feel i can unbiasedly say Pat is the one I’d want to run my team. Besides, I think this is Toub’s job.
Ind- Get to work with Ballard (not even going to act like I know how their dynamic is) and possibly an elite QB depending on Luck’s shoulder. However, Irsay may be a crazy person.
NYG- You get Odell and probably your pick of the litter in this years QB class. The media will be a different type of beast there, idk how he feels about that.
Det- Stafford and a “meh” surrounding roster. Not an awful situation but i don’t think I’d personally want to miss out on potential SB opportunities in KC for Detroit.
Oak- I’m praying Gruden takes this.
Ari- This team is cascading into rebuild mode and I don’t see why Nagy would want to tie himself to this scenario.

I still contend that this cost us the 1995 playoff game. As bad as Paul Hackett was, I figure that he just mailed in the playoff game plan after he got hired by USC or wherever.

The Chiefs should request to interview the Titans' assistant coaches today.

One correction: I’m pretty sure that was ‘97.

I feel like 1st time nfl head coaches often rush into bad positions. You only have so many chances, keep being an assistant untill the perfect opportunity comes up and allow yourself to have a 5+ career instead of a 1-2 tenure.

This is where we need a friendly reporter to write up an article on the critical role Brad Childress has played with the Chiefs offense and getting Mahomes ready for his first start. Maybe also an article on Dave Toubs units with Hill and Hester and without? Why can’t we block kicks?

You know just some counter messaging!

is there even an assistant in the league that sat and waited for a coach to retire? Ben McAdoo? Who was a disaster.

McDaniels and Patricia arent even waiting for Belichick.

If youre a young mind you definitely take the HC gig.

I have 0 confidence in Ryan Pace making a good coaching decision. So if Nagy is indeed worth a damn, the Bears will certainly go in a different direction.

Not even the hoodie and co. could get Cleveland turned around...

I didnt say wait for someone to retire, just dont take the first opportunity that arises.

You're 39 years old. You have the option of being head coach for a team where your entire career depends on turning mitch trubisky into a playoff qb. Or you have the option to stick around a year or 2 and work with pat mahomes and make him look like a capable qb.

Yeah, if I'm Nagy, I play the field. But this is not the job to take.

Has there ever been a professional coaching situation where the Coordinator has been publicly declared the current Head Coach in waiting when the Head Coach retires/moves on?

Not sure...wasnt Garret the heir apparent in Dallas?

Pace must have incriminating photos of the McCaskeys raping a squirrel or something. You've got a team full of holes, so what do you do? Dump all that money on Glennon, then trade a bunch of picks to move up ONE SPOT to grab Trubisky, who would have certainly still been there at 3. They should have sent somebody down there to slit his throat after that. And then after an injury-riddled disaster of a season, Fox gets thrown under the bus yet this prick gets an extension. Not that Fox is a great coach or anything, but he's George ****ing Halas compared to Pace as a GM.

I don't see how anybody in their right mind would go to the Bears right now.

Especially since Fox didn't even know about the Trubisky move until an hour or so before the trade. Huge red flag if I'm entertaining a HC job under Pace. I think Trubisky is an enticing piece and I like Fangio as a DC, but the Bears front office is complete shit. Fox is a buffoon that needed to go, but they should've flushed them as a pair.

Should Nagy leave, what do we have left for OC?
Reid playing that role again is dooms day for this team

I think there should be a rule that teams can't ask other teams to interview a coach until after that team is eliminated from playoffs. Not the playoff team fault you fired your coach.

If I was a playoff team I'd make it known that I'll deny every request until we are done playing to avoid the distraction.

God, I know right? Like what the **** is the rush?

Chicago is trying to become the new Cleveland.

That will create even more distractions.

Yeah, Bears ownership is horrid. They should absolutely be a perennial contender given their market size and national fan base. Instead they're nothing more than Green Bay's bitch and a place where coaching careers go to die.

Reid will be fine if Alex is gone.

are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

So the first question Nagy asks Reid after the last game... "Are you taking play calling back?"

Would hate to lose Nagy, but he either gets some kind of promotion or he's probably gone.

how so? you get a request and you immediately make it known around the league that you denied it and will deny every single request whle the team plays. Then there are no more requests to worry about.

They have to promote him....whatever the next step up is...Assistant HC....hell get creative...Assistant HC/Associate Director of Player Personnel...SOMEthing!

Getting your staff together before they've all taken other jobs.
Spending time figuring out the needs of the team that you just took over.
Getting prepared for free agency and the draft.

You know.....nothing to do.

This.

If I’m a rival team I make the request anyway. Let the assistants know their boss is preventing them from advancing their careers. Let follow up questions rain down from media to coaches and players throughout the playoffs. Unleash hell.

Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

I'd love to see him stay.....but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's no way I'm touching that Bears job if I'm him though.

Only hope is that he wants to stay and hopefully take over Mahomes in a few years but that’s risky as DJ pointed out.

Sucks

I agree with wazu, no one better knows what Mahomes is than Reid

He isnt going to restrain the most dynamic QB he has ever had

If he can get Trubisky to even make it into the top 1/2 of NFL quarterbacks in the next 2 years, he's in a fantastic spot. He'd start to get that 'quarterback whisperer' reputation after Mahomes development and Smith's career year. He'd effectively get 'royalties' on what Mahomes does when he leaves (hell, he'd get credit if Mahomes fails).

And if Trubisky plateaus, he gets to say "Mitch is a fine passer but he wasn't my guy" when they move on from him. He'll get a few more years after that to establish a new guy.

All Nagy would have to do to have a virtually guaranteed 6-8 year career in Chicago is turn Mitch Trubisky into an average passer in the next 2 seasons. With Howard as a bellcow and Cohen as a hell of a swiss army knife, not to mention Meridith returning, that's not an outlandish ask.

The problem for Nagy in Chicago is Pace is a shitty ass GM and the Bears will eventually figure it out.

Having a shitty GM makes your job harder and once they cut him loose, you're probably ****ed and it's real hard to get another gig if you blow the first one.

Can't empathize nearly enough just how much Pace sucks asshole at his job and amazed he kept his job. He ****ing sucks.

Keep in mind that who picks in the top 10 sometimes plays into the thinking of returning for one more year.

The Colts, Bears, and Giants are all in horrible shape right now. If Luck can play next year (and right now that's very unclear) I'd take the Colts off the list.

If Dorsey hired Naggy to coach in Cleveland (as big a dumpster fire as that team is) I'd think that job would be more desirable. Dorsey knows Naggy and Andy would go to bat for him. There's a relationship there, Cleveland has a ton of picks again this year, and I think Dorsey wouldn't fire him after 1 season.

If things go bad in NY or Chicago after 1 year you're out and the perception is you weren't ready...

If Nagy is shrewd, tough negotiator, theres nothing stopping him from demanding a heavy hand in personnel decisions to counter any idiocy Pace might dream up

Nagy would be a huge hire for the Bears, but I wouldn’t take the job if I was Nagy.

Rodgers will still be there for at least 5-7 more years, Stafford will be there for another decade and the Vikings have a very good team.

Not exactly a good spot to succeed in the next 2-3 years.

I don't think so. They'll blame Reid and dorsey and veach for drafting the wrong qb. Worst case scenario, he falls off the hot list for a year or 2, then gets back on it. If Nagy fails to develop trubisky, it will be decades if ever before he gets a head coaching position again. And if that fails, he'll fall back to an oc job at a crappy team or fall further backwards into positions coach.

Nagy is young and he has Reid as a safety net. If he waits one year and mahomes plays well the he gets to pick what team he wants to coach, not the other way around. And if he fails there as a head coach, people will remember he was a great oc and he will be top of the list for OC, especially for the many coaches on Reid's tree. If I'm nagy I'm extremely picky. Either a job with a Reid GM or the best of the best available. If that's not an option, wait one year.

Also, keep in mind Ballard worked in Chicago. I bet he has plenty of inside Intel that he will share with nagy to stay the hell away from that job.

This.

This is not the year be someone's one season stand...

You're not going to always be the "hot coordinator". Adam Gase called plays for the highest scoring offense in NFL history in 2013, turned down job offers in 2014, and then couldn't get a HC'ing job in 2015.

You have to strike while your name is hot because there are no guarantees that you'll get another shot. Nagy probably makes like, what, $700k per year? Why would he turn down a fully guaranteed 4 year, $4M+ per year contract? Clark doesn't seem like the kind of owner who'd pay out the ass to keep him for another year or two either.

Except then he got a HC job in 2016.

Because John Elway treated Adam Gase like shit by bad mouthing him.

I don't understand those who hate Reid but love his coordinators.

He taught his coordinators.

His coordinators found success running HIS playbook.

Reid has a long history of turning out assistant coaches, which means if you have Reid, you can bet your ass that he will have yet another excellent assistant coach.

Would you rather have a Ferrari, or the whole damn factory?

I swear, the logic of some people is just baffling.

Coming into this season no one gave two ****s about Matt Nagy. Just like no one gave a shit about Doug Pederson before him. Pederson was casted as just another career Reid crony.

Reid literally brought Naggy and Pederson into coaching, taught them everything they know about coaching, now all of a sudden i'm to believe they're better coaches than Reid?

At the start of the season NO ONE was talking about Naggy. Childress was pegged as Reid's offensive assistant.

Piss off, Chicago. You too, Indy.







But yeah, he's likely gone. Andrew Luck is just too big of a carrot to not pay attention to, especially if his shoulder is finally back to being right "IF" being the operative word

Yea I don’t see any reason why Kafka can’t gives us what Pederson and Nagy did.

I will say that I liked the idea of Veach/Nagy being the future GM/HC duo, but it was never realistic.

well, bye

This.

I'd like 2 reasons why you think Kafka can...

1. Doug Pederson
2. Matt Nagy

Give me 2 reasons why he can’t.

Reid consistently turns guys like Kafka into good position coaches/coordinators. There’s no reason to think he won’t continue this trend with Kafka.

1) He's proven nothing.

You've only stated things other people have done - not him.

2) He joined the team this year. Just this year.

Allow me to be skeptical about his knowledge of the offense and how players best fit it...

Well stated

What the **** did Pederson or Nagy prove before they got the job?

My reasoning as to why I think we’d be fine with Kafka makes a lot more sense than yours.

How long did Pederson serve under Reid?

Naggy?

Exactly...

I disagree. Pederson was always a Reid lackey, in my opinion. Even knowing Pederson has turned into a good head coach, I'd rather nagy running our offense than Pederson. Nagy seems a lot more open to a more innovative offense and every interview you hear from him he's pushed Alex Smith to open up the offense. This is a loss id rather not have. But yeah, it's not the end of the world if he leaves because Reid is going to control the next offense no matter who until Kafka or whoever proves they can coordinate independently under his standards. I don't love Reid running the offense, but it's not a bad fallback.

You're aware that Nagy was brought into coaching by Reid in Philly, correct? Nagy has also always been a Reid lackey.

Nagy was freakin' coaching HS ball when Reid brought him in as a coaching intern.