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staylor26 12-10-2017 02:10 PM
Derek Carr ****ing sucks
 
That is all

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-10-2017 02:12 PM
HOOTIE

Pablo 12-10-2017 02:13 PM
Yep. Looks like he should have U on his helmet with the way he plays QB out there. Awful.

carcosa 12-10-2017 02:14 PM
I guess feeding Hunt and targeting Kelce is... good?

staylor26 12-10-2017 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13273704)
Yep. Looks like he should have U on his helmet with the way he plays QB out there. Awful.
The U has two really good young QB’s. Don’t judge us based on the trash that Al Golden left behind.

Richt can do MUCH better.

Titty Meat 12-10-2017 02:17 PM
He wears eyeliner

Simply Red 12-10-2017 02:18 PM
I'm not sure he's healthy.

Buehler445 12-10-2017 02:21 PM
He's got cum in his beard.

Nickhead 12-10-2017 02:21 PM
on the bright side, we will get to finally see mahomes today. :thumb:

Eleazar 12-10-2017 02:22 PM
I don't know about sucks, but he's definitely overrated

Buehler445 12-10-2017 02:22 PM
I shouldn't talk shit on him. He seems like a decent human, which runs contrary to Faid norms. But I like the guy. Piss on Faid though.

NJChiefsFan 12-10-2017 02:23 PM
When he is on he looks great but when he is off he puts up as bad an ugly as any qb.

staylor26 12-10-2017 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13273812)
When he is on he looks great but when he is off he puts up as bad an ugly as any qb.
The problem is he’s only ever been “on” against shitty teams. Even then he hasn’t done that as much this year.

He’s only going to get worse as that OL falls apart.

ptlyon 12-10-2017 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13273812)
When he is on he looks great but when he is off he puts up as bad an ugly as Alex Smith.
Fyp

Eleazar 12-10-2017 02:25 PM
We're probably biased since he has all his worst games against the Chiefs, it seems.

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carcosa 12-10-2017 02:33 PM
Carr is overrated just like his team

DaneMcCloud 12-10-2017 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13273753)
The U has two really good young QB’s. Don’t judge us based on the trash that Al Golden left behind.

Richt can do MUCH better.
They better win it next year because Manny is likeły gone after the 2018 season.

He quietly interviewed for some huge openings this year and if they continue to play well next year, he’s gone.

staylor26 12-10-2017 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13274010)
They better win it next year because Manny is likeły gone after the 2018 season.

He quietly interviewed for some huge openings this year and if they continue to play well next year, he’s gone.
No doubt Manny leaving would suck, but we have a great staff and we will continue to bring in talent on that side of the ball.

I’m not that concerned.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2017 03:26 PM
Sutton really has his number.

Boy has a hell of a monkey on his back.

Fortunately he's got another decade to get it off.

staylor26 12-10-2017 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274372)
Sutton really has his number.

Boy has a hell of a monkey on his back.

Fortunately he's got another decade to get it off.
Lol he’s been pretty average all ****ing year. He’s overrated and clearly not worth that contract. Keep sucking his dick though.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2017 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13274378)
Lol he’s been pretty average all ****ing year. He’s overrated and clearly not worth that contract. Keep sucking his dick though.
Young QB. He's got a decade to get it done.

staylor26 12-10-2017 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274382)
Young QB. He's got a decade to get it done.
LMAO you’re talking like he’s in his 2nd/3rd year and we don’t have a good idea about who he is at this point.

He’s not going to get better as that OL continues to decline, but keep dreaming.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2017 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13274394)
LMAO you’re talking like he’s in his 2nd/3rd year and we don’t have a good idea about who he is at this point.

He’s not going to get better as that OL continues to decline, but keep dreaming.
I mean...he's going to be a 15-year starter in this league.

Might want to slow your roll based on one year. He's certainly well above average looking at the big picture.

Hopefully Mahomes can get to his level.

staylor26 12-10-2017 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274416)
I mean...he's going to be a 15-year starter in this league.

Might want to slow your roll based on one year. He's certainly well above average.
Ok just keep telling us how scared we should be of Carr and the Raiders. Carr is the type of guy you can maybe win a SB with on a rookie contract or good deal. With that contract he got, the Raiders are ****ed.

LMAO

Chief Northman 12-10-2017 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274372)
Sutton really has his number.

Boy has a hell of a monkey on his back.

Fortunately he's got another decade to get it off.
Sutton can “guest scheme” just for Raider weeks in the future.

Mahomes will make Carr’s eyeliner run....

Rausch 12-10-2017 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13273718)
I guess feeding Hunt and targeting Kelce is... good?
Ball to our best players and owned TOP.

Seems like teams that win do that...

Eleazar 12-10-2017 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274416)
I mean...he's going to be a 15-year starter in this league.

Might want to slow your roll based on one year. He's certainly well above average looking at the big picture.

Hopefully Mahomes can get to his level.
You are sooooo disappointed that your golden boy didn't turn out to be a good QB dealing us L's for a decade.

RippedmyFlesh 12-10-2017 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274416)
Hopefully Mahomes can get to his level.
Seen a big enough sample size of carr to think this matchup favors kc in the future.

Eureka 12-10-2017 04:47 PM
Raiders before Carr < Raiders after drafting Carr.

He looked horrible today. He has a rookie coordinator and JDR for coaching. Most teams would love to have Carr as their QB.

RealSNR 12-10-2017 04:51 PM
FROM THE GAY

WITH A GREAT RAPE

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HE CAN SEE YOU

NJChiefsFan 12-10-2017 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13274394)
LMAO you’re talking like he’s in his 2nd/3rd year and we don’t have a good idea about who he is at this point.

He’s not going to get better as that OL continues to decline, but keep dreaming.
Why can't he still get better? What is he, 26? Is that the cutoff? I do agree that he is not nearly the threat some, myself included, thought he was going to be. He is currently in one of the best offenses he will ever be in.

Hammock Parties 12-10-2017 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13274646)
You are sooooo disappointed that your golden boy didn't turn out to be a good QB dealing us L's for a decade.
Carr is absolutely a good QB. He's having trouble taking that next step to great QB.

He's 26! HE'S DOOMED!

ThaVirus 12-10-2017 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13274416)
I mean...he's going to be a 15-year starter in this league.

Might want to slow your roll based on one year. He's certainly well above average looking at the big picture.

Hopefully Mahomes can get to his level.
You're kind of prematurely jumping the gun on him being a great QB essentially based off of one year as well.

Not picking on you because you're generally always wrong anyway, but..

Ragged Robin 12-10-2017 05:39 PM
Dude has a lot of talent. Like all young QBs he needs time to mature. They are certainly better with him than without.

staylor26 12-10-2017 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13274835)
Why can't he still get better? What is he, 26? Is that the cutoff? I do agree that he is not nearly the threat some, myself included, thought he was going to be. He is currently in one of the best offenses he will ever be in.
I just don’t see a lot of room for improvement when what he struggles with the most will only get worse while that OL falls apart (dealing with any sort of pressure). It certainly doesn’t help that it seems like a difficult thing to do for young NFL QB’s.

lcarus 12-10-2017 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13274889)
I just don’t see a lot of room for improvement when what he struggles with the most will only get worse while that OL falls apart (dealing with any sort of pressure).
Not to mention Cooper/Crabtree/Cook is a damn good arsenal of weapons to throw to and there's certainly no guarantee those guys will all stick around and/or stay healthy.

RobBlake 12-10-2017 06:03 PM
Carr is a youn qb loo they all go through ups and downs. He’ll be okay

RobBlake 12-10-2017 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13274889)
I just don’t see a lot of room for improvement when what he struggles with the most will only get worse while that OL falls apart (dealing with any sort of pressure). It certainly doesn’t help that it seems like a difficult thing to do for young NFL QB’s.
His new OC sucks. Del rio sucks as we’ll

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-10-2017 07:05 PM
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy.....

Hold the phone, Staylor is probably on to something. If it is true that ANDY REID and NO ONE ELSE in the KC org. wanted to draft him, if Reid wasn't just being nice to the young lad in conversation, then I must admit; I have to hop on this train and ride it to the end of the line, no questions asked.

Thank you, young Staylor. Thank you.

Black Bob 12-10-2017 07:12 PM
Most QBs suck. Especially first round ones. Think about it.

staylor26 12-10-2017 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13275182)
Most QBs suck. Especially first round ones. Think about it.
Not only is this stupid, Carr wasn’t even a 1st rounder.

And you probably still think Mahomes played at Texas A&M.

LMAO

Black Bob 12-10-2017 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13275187)
Not only is this stupid, Carr wasn’t even a 1st rounder.

And you probably still think Mahomes played at Texas A&M.

LMAO
Did I say he was a first round QB? Also, I never said Mahomes played at Texas A&M.

Most QBs suck ass. The good or even average ones stick around for a long time. Is that a lie? Tons of them come and go.

This makes your thread pretty ****ing stupid imo.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-10-2017 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13275187)
Not only is this stupid, Carr wasn’t even a 1st rounder.

And you probably still think Mahomes played at Texas A&M.

LMAO
Damn.

Really?

staylor26 12-10-2017 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13275194)
Did I say he was a first round QB? Also, I never said Mahomes played at Texas A&M.
It certainly seemed like you were insinuating it. If you weren’t, I reall don’t see what your point was bringing 1st round picks into the conversation.

Also:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13246812)
Bullshit. The #1 pick came from his team.

Look at Dak. That's a guy who carried a team. That's a guy who led comebacks at Alabama etc.

Did you watch the national championship? Did you see the beating Watson took in that game?

The offense Mahommes played in was not your average spread. You should watch the video at draft breakdown and study the offense. Bumps, rubs, and picks on every other play. There is clearly more bad than good. However, the good is REALLY GOOD and rare.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13245820)
He was semi mobile with a big arm. He wasn't "clutch" in college. Never led many comebacks or game winning drives. He came from a similar system that created space for receivers to be wide open. The fact is that A&M's gimmick offense is well known and basically all the "experts" bring it up when talking about Mahomme's college completion percentage. It's easy to see if you watch the film. Almost Every play is a rub or pick. Also, Mahommes doesn't have an NFL completion percentage yet. Things aren't going to be the same as they were in college. Their backgrounds are very similar. Locker got the Fabre comparisons too. Again, Mahommes floor is Locker and his ceiling is Farve imo. Mahommes has potential and potential means he hasn't done anything yet. He can wow people with his arm but whether or not he can put a team on his back and carry them when they need it most is yet to be determined. That's why I wanted Watson. He did it in college and he's already done it in the pros. Mahommes has a lot to prove before I crown him. He is the epitome of a boom or bust prospect.
First you said A&M, then in another post said the #1 overall pick was on his team (Myles Garrett of Texas A&M)

You clearly thought Mahomes played at A&M.

Black Bob 12-10-2017 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13275213)
It certainly seemed like you were insinuating it. If you weren’t, I reall don’t see what your point was bringing 1st round picks into the conversation.

Also:





First you said A&M, then in another post said the #1 overall pick was on his team (Myles Garrett of Texas A&M)

You clearly thought Mahomes played at A&M.
False, I clearly said Mahommes.

staylor26 12-10-2017 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13275233)
False, I clearly said Mahommes.
ROFL

Can’t spell his name or get the team right

thegame214 12-10-2017 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13275252)
ROFL

Can’t spell his name or get the team right
He is still expecting the announcement of Dorsey possibly heading to the Browns.

He's a little slow.

Black Bob 12-10-2017 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13275252)
ROFL

Can’t spell his name or get the team right
ROFL

True. I'll own it. I got ****ed up and screwed up there. The Mahommes thing was a nice loophole though.

okcchief 12-10-2017 07:50 PM
Carr is definitely over hyped. He’s one of those guys that can do well when everything around him is perfect. Pretty much he’s Alex.


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Black Bob 12-10-2017 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 13275298)
Carr is definitely over hyped. He’s one of those guys that can do well when everything around him is perfect. Pretty much he’s Alex.


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Nah, Alex knows how to win games. Carr is his brother with a decent o-line. He's tapioca pudding. He will be a back up QB before you know it.

petegz28 12-10-2017 07:56 PM
When he signed his new contract, I believe there were articles out saying he was the most overrated QB and had a bunch of stats to show that.

wazu 12-11-2017 07:52 AM
He’s better than Dee Ford.

Black Bob 12-11-2017 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13275950)
He’s better than Dee Ford.
Meh, that's questionable.

Best22 12-11-2017 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13275950)
He’s better than Dee Ford.
Not really. They are both ineffective at Atrowhead.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-11-2017 09:04 AM
We actually got pressure this game...and when he's pressured, he shits those pants every time.

wazu 12-11-2017 09:10 AM
Seriously, this Alex Smith “career year” is what Carr typically does. He sucked yesterday, and this is a down year, but this thread reminds me of all the “Philip Rivers sucks” takes I’ve read on this site through the years. Wishful thinking.

Red Dawg 12-11-2017 09:15 AM
Carr is a franchise QB. He played poorly but he doesn't suck.

SuperBowl4 12-11-2017 11:09 AM
He looked pretty ****ing good against the CHIEFS in their first meeting at Oakland on that Thursday Nighter in October. Carr went for 29/52 for 417 yards and 3 TD's and no pic's. GO CHIEFS!

Best22 12-11-2017 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13276055)
Seriously, this Alex Smith “career year” is what Carr typically does. He sucked yesterday, and this is a down year, but this thread reminds me of all the “Philip Rivers sucks” takes I’ve read on this site through the years. Wishful thinking.
Carr has thrown for fewer yards, fewer touchdowns, and more interceptions than Smith in 2017

Check out the Raider forums. It's not exactly a Carr love-fest over there

wazu 12-11-2017 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13276339)
Carr has thrown for fewer yards, fewer touchdowns, and more interceptions than Smith in 2017

Check out the Raider forums. It's not exactly a Carr love-fest over there
Yes, Alex is having best year of his career by a mile, while Carr is having his worst. I sincerely hope the Raiders give up on him.

Best22 12-11-2017 11:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13276414)
Yes, Alex is having best year of his career by a mile, while Carr is having his worst. I sincerely hope the Raiders give up on him.
So do I. That's a lot of money they owe him.

staylor26 12-11-2017 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13276339)
Carr has thrown for fewer yards, fewer touchdowns, and more interceptions than Smith in 2017

Check out the Raider forums. It's not exactly a Carr love-fest over there
Chiefs fans clearly haven’t been paying much attention to Carr and the Raiders this year because they think he’s still only playing like shit against us.

Carr is pretty much Kirk Cousins with unwarranted hype. Above average, but he needs the team around him to be pretty much perfect (good weapons, good running game, good OL, good defense) to win a SB. Good luck to the Raiders trying to build a near perfect team around that contract.

ptlyon 12-11-2017 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13276312)
He looked pretty ****ing good against the CHIEFS in their first meeting at Oakland on that Thursday Nighter in October. Carr went for 29/52 for 417 yards and 3 TD's and no pic's. GO CHIEFS!
Thank you. I can't stand to look at that mascara faced ****.

lawrenceRaider 12-11-2017 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13273678)
That is all
Carr certainly has sucked this year for the most part.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2017 03:12 PM
Carr has struggled against the Chiefs his whole career, but he absolutely destroyed our defense in Oakland.

Going 1-1 against the Chiefs is progress for him. I'd be worried about next season.

He has the ability to be an elite QB, it's just a matter of consistency now.

Pitt Gorilla 12-11-2017 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13276835)
Carr has struggled against the Chiefs his whole career, but he absolutely destroyed our defense in Oakland.

Going 1-1 against the Chiefs is progress for him. I'd be worried about next season.

He has the ability to be an elite QB, it's just a matter of consistency now.
is he better than Alex?

staylor26 12-11-2017 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13276835)
Carr has struggled against the Chiefs his whole career, but he absolutely destroyed our defense in Oakland.

Going 1-1 against the Chiefs is progress for him. I'd be worried about next season.

He has the ability to be an elite QB, it's just a matter of consistency now.
That’s a hilarious attempt to pretend that Carr has improved this year

LMAO

Hammock Parties 12-11-2017 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13276847)
That’s a hilarious attempt to pretend that Carr has improved this year

LMAO
Against the Chiefs he certainly did.

628 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

vs

342 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

That's a HUGE improvement.

temper11 12-11-2017 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13274753)
FROM THE GAY

WITH A GREAT RAPE

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/v8R17ja7nEs" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HE CAN SEE YOU
What in the hell was this? Why do these guys do this crap? Not like Carr is hurtin' for money.

New World Order 12-11-2017 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13276841)
is he better than Alex?
Of course.

He was an MVP candidate in his third year.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-11-2017 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13276851)
Against the Chiefs he certainly did.

628 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

vs

342 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

That's a HUGE improvement.
1 pants shitting instead of 2!!!

Hammock Parties 12-11-2017 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13277072)
1 pants shitting instead of 2!!!
Now imagine if Alex could have found one pants shitting instead of two last year against the Steelers.

This place would be blowing him left and right.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-11-2017 05:05 PM
They both shit their pants good under pressure.Meeting 1, he could make a sandwich. I thought we wanted better?

Eureka 12-11-2017 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13276878)
What in the hell was this? Why do these guys do this crap? Not like Carr is hurtin' for money.
It was a prank he pulled on his teammates.

Imagine as he was showing his team the video in a team meeting saying he was going into the pop artist scene. His teammates had to be thinking what the hell. ROFL

Ming the Merciless 12-11-2017 06:18 PM
Carr might be over hyped but I bet he goes to and wins more playoff games than smith did/does

Ming the Merciless 12-11-2017 06:20 PM
I mean according to smith fans, carr should be twice as good as smith Right?

He makes twice the money and bangs 10 times the hot babes

PAChiefsGuy 12-11-2017 06:33 PM
He doesn't suck but he is overrated... He's no where near elite and he never will be. Only an idiot like Clay would think something like that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-11-2017 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13276055)
Seriously, this Alex Smith “career year” is what Carr typically does. He sucked yesterday, and this is a down year, but this thread reminds me of all the “Philip Rivers sucks” takes I’ve read on this site through the years. Wishful thinking.
Meh. Carr isn't Rivers, but he ain't the Soon Exiled One either. As Clay has pointed out, at least Carr can claim some steady progression unlike this one useless asshole that you might as well flip a ****ing coin each season/game to determine which sub-par version of said Cuck will show his face at game time.

Mahomes will surpass all current AFCW QB's in time; it's pretty much written all over him. I just hope that when he decides to goof around like Carr, that Mahomes will do some sweet-assed pop-lockin' too.

Cuz that's dope. :)

Hammock Parties 12-11-2017 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13277278)
when he decides to goof around like Carr, that Mahomes will do some sweet-assed pop-lockin' too.

Cuz that's dope. :)
fo sheezy my jive cult homie!

represent!


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