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RunKC 10-30-2017 09:35 PM

Rescind Dee Ford's 5th yr option and pay Shaq Barrett
 
Done with Dee Ford'a broke ass. He can't stop the ****ing run, he is always hurt and he's not tough. No way do I want to pay that pussyz

Shaq Barrett is a FA and I am perfectly fine spending $15 million a year on him. If we are going to get rid of Alex and have an excess of $$$, use it on this guy

RealSNR 10-30-2017 09:37 PM

We haven't signed a good player away from Denver since Eddie Kennison.

All In 10-30-2017 09:49 PM

Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

TLO 10-30-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

Well...

TLO 10-30-2017 09:50 PM

..... Bye

GloucesterChief 10-30-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

Dee Ford has had a good half season in his entire career. He is a bust so far. He is still a liability against the run.

Chief Northman 10-30-2017 09:51 PM

Can you rescind an option offer?

Reerun_KC 10-30-2017 09:52 PM

Bye Felicia

Simply Red 10-30-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

we just met!!!!!

TLO 10-30-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13187957)
Dee Ford has had a good half season in his entire career. He is a bust so far. He is still a liability against the run.

He's a liability in all aspects except for the one game a year he shines and manages 3 sacks.

He's oft injured, can't play the run, can't play the pass.

Chiefs would be foolish to pay him this off-season.

kcchiefsus 10-30-2017 10:03 PM

He's another one of Dorsey's stupid draft picks.

New World Order 10-30-2017 10:04 PM

Can't be.

Dane said he wasn't that big of a drop-off from Houston.

So he must be good, right?

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13187963)
Can you rescind an option offer?

Yeah as long as he ain't injured

Dee Ford, Allen Bailey and Bennie Logan are the biggest warts on the D.

kcchiefsus 10-30-2017 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188074)
Yeah as long as he ain't injured

Dee Ford, Allen Bailey and Bennie Logan are the biggest warts on the D.

Add in both ILBs. Basically, our linebackers suck outside of Houston. Our corners are shit outside of Peters, and our safeties are JAGs.

O.city 10-30-2017 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188074)
Yeah as long as he ain't injured

Dee Ford, Allen Bailey and Bennie Logan are the biggest warts on the D.

See I think Logan has been pretty solid for what he's supposed to do.

The rest of the dl has been meh and DJ is slow

Coach 10-30-2017 10:09 PM

This up-coming draft needs to be defense heavy.

GloucesterChief 10-30-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13188103)
This up-coming draft needs to be defense heavy.

1st pick: Best LT available.
After that all D.

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13188102)
See I think Logan has been pretty solid for what he's supposed to do.

The rest of the dl has been meh and DJ is slow

Could not disagree more.

He was paid to be a pocket collapser and a run clogger. He's jist a fat warm body in space.

I've said it over and over. His production can be replaced by a 3rd/4th round rookie.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13188140)
1st pick: Best LT available.

After that all D.



Since we have franchise QB. Yes we need a LT desperately.

CaliforniaChief 10-30-2017 10:19 PM

Yeah I think the Dee Ford era needs to end. 1 dimensional, injury-prone, inconsistent.

Otter 10-30-2017 10:25 PM

I think Ford would be a much greater asset if we DJ wasn't on the decline and Berry wasn't hurt. He's a great pass rusher and average on everything else. He has his place in the NFL but it's not with the Chiefs at the moment unless they strengthen up the run defense but he may shine in the right environment.

kccrow 10-30-2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188161)
Could not disagree more.

He was paid to be a pocket collapser and a run clogger. He's jist a fat warm body in space.

I've said it over and over. His production can be replaced by a 3rd/4th round rookie.

Logan has never been a "pocket collapser." Run stuffer? Yes. He's still solid, but he's way overpaid for his role IMO. Should be a 3-4 million per guy. I think his former teammate, Beau Allen, would be equally effective and at most in this price range.

scho63 10-30-2017 10:26 PM

I won't shed a tear for Dee Ford leaving. Adios muchacho !

kccrow 10-30-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

Well, if you don't want wishy washy, I'm here to continue my stance that Dee Ford pretty much sucks. I maintain he should be a rotational pass rusher only and he's pretty well overpaid at this point to be that.

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13188217)
Logan has never been a "pocket collapser." Run stuffer? Yes. He's still solid, but he's way overpaid for his role IMO. Should be a 3-4 million per guy. I think his former teammate, Beau Allen, would be equally effective and at most in this price range.

I never really saw him as a pocket collapsing guy either, but Dorsey paid him like one lol

They need to draft a fattie with a lot of tread on the wheels.

Cornstock 10-30-2017 10:50 PM

Logan holds up the point of attack pretty well in the run. I thought there were several occasions tonight where he would have helped out, but he wasn't on the field. He can't play every snap like Poe could when healthy

RunKC 10-30-2017 11:07 PM

Logan has been a very good run defender. The problem is he looks bad because we he is e ONLY very good run defender.

Pat Logan a decent salary ($5 million a year avg)
Pay Shaq Barrett
Have Tanoh put on 20 lbs and play DE next year
Sign a good DL
Give a team friendly deal to KPL
Draft a CB and DL early

RunKC 11-05-2017 07:49 PM

Yup. I'm still 100% down for this plan.

We need more of a pass rush badly.

TEX 11-05-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 13188319)
Logan holds up the point of attack pretty well in the run. I thought there were several occasions tonight where he would have helped out, but he wasn't on the field. He can't play every snap like Poe could when healthy

Still paid way too much for the guy. Im glad its just 1 year. He's good but not for what he's getting paid.

Kyle DeLexus 11-05-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

This needs an "I'm leaving forever" thread.

KChiefs1 11-05-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13188103)
This up-coming draft needs to be defense heavy.



Along with OL.

Toad 11-05-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188161)
Could not disagree more.

He was paid to be a pocket collapser and a run clogger. He's jist a fat warm body in space.

I've said it over and over. His production can be replaced by a 3rd/4th round rookie.

Logan was signed to stuff the run. He's done a decent job of that. He ranks 5th or 6th DT/NT in the league in tackles.
That said, I think we can find a decent replacement next year for much less. One thing is certain...we have got to find a replacement for DJ.

Quesadilla Joe 11-05-2017 10:11 PM

Shaq Barrett will be a restricted FA next year. Denver will definitely slap a first-round tender on him.

scho63 11-05-2017 10:23 PM

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staylor26 11-13-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13202141)
Shaq Barrett will be a restricted FA next year. Denver will definitely slap a first-round tender on him.

Lol did everybody miss KnowMo popping his head up?

RealSNR 11-13-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13202141)
Shaq Barrett will be a restricted FA next year. Denver will definitely slap a first-round tender on him.

Can I get that in a bullshit homer tweet from that Mark Klit guy followed by a :)

Or do you only do that when you're offseason trolling and/or the Broncos are winning?

What's wrong? Why are you so quiet all of a sudden?

DJ's left nut 11-13-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188161)
Could not disagree more.

He was paid to be a pocket collapser and a run clogger. He's jist a fat warm body in space.

I've said it over and over. His production can be replaced by a 3rd/4th round rookie.

Never understood that kind of outlay on a 1-year deal for a 2-down player.

I'd bring him back at 1/2 what he's making, at most. More of those mid-round fat guys you suggest can replace him actually end up busting pretty hard, pretty fast so I wouldn't go so far as to say he's easy to move on from. But there are fat bodies that fall through the cracks on the market every season and go for far less than we expect.

I would wait to see what happens there because there's an okay chance that the market simply never materialized for Logan and you can get him back here at a significant pay cut. That would probably be the best case scenario.

DomCasual 11-13-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

In fairness, I never said I was a die heart fan.

DaneMcCloud 11-13-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13201964)
Along with OL.

Wha?

BossChief 11-13-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13202141)
Shaq Barrett will be a restricted FA next year. Denver will definitely slap a first-round tender on him.

Kid, you have no clue what Elfraud is gonna do. He rubs everyone the wrong way. Coaches, players...everyone around him is treated like a used car.

He’s clueless, too. Let Okung walk and replaces him with Stephenson, Bolles and Watson. Lol.

The fax debacle

Is on his what? 4th HC and will probably hire his 5th after this year ends...

The CJ Anderson situation (with a restricted tag)

Paying 2 WRs crazy money with no QB to throw to them.

Just face it.

You might as well turn off your little bronco nightlight and find another hobby because your loved team is gonna be trash for a few years.

Might as well tune out.

Frosty 11-13-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 13214462)
In fairness, I never said I was a die heart fan.

I would hope not.





Live free or die heart

Die heart with a vengeance

A good day to die heart

Reerun_KC 11-13-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13201964)
Along with OL.



Starting with a left tackle who isn’t the son of James Harrison.

HemiEd 11-14-2017 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All In (Post 13187934)
Yall are so wishy washy. Next week you will love him. Im out of here. You all need help. Yall say you are die heart fans but you are such turn coats. It makes me sick.

Oh noes, butthurt

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