LNBS: Dalvin Cook having amazing start w/ 288 yards rushing. Hunt has 401.
 

Just... let that sink in, mother****ers.

It is unbelievable what this kid is doing.

Having a guy run this well is going to benefit Mahomes immensely when he takes over. The defense can't stack the box, and the defense can't go dime all game either.

He also has 137 yards in the air, too. Guy is just the complete package.

KC has been blessed at RB, man. We had Priest Holmes who had a HOF streak of about four years or so. Larry Johnson set the league on fire for a couple years.

Charles came in and, in my opinion, blew both of them away with his elite speed, versatility and fundamentals.

I think Hunt could somehow end up being the best of the bunch. He lacks Charles' elite speed but he has every bit of Charles' and Holmes' fundamentals, along with Holmes' nose for the end zone. None of them have his ability to shed tackles, though. My god. And he's surrounded by superior weapons than all three enjoyed.

Sky's the limit. This guy is a blast.

How many tackles has this guys broken?

he upped his game shortly after he was hurt. that shows toughness :thumb:

He's almost averaging a first down for every carry LMAO

I think it's unlikely he's better than prime Charles.

That dude broke a bunch of tackles because his change of direction was so ridiculous. It is truly remarkable what that guy did with ****all for holes to run through.

**** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Franchise Killer Pioli for wasting his talent.

This.

I hate seeing him in a Donk jersey. **** Donk Forever

Cook was the other guy DJLN didn't like

Meanwhile, Kamara....

He had at least 8 yesterday, 4 on that one sideline run.

edit: PFF has him marked for 7 from yesterday.

#1 RB in the league according to PFF right now

He runs like Priest Holmes.

Not blazingly fast but fast enough. Hes patient seeing the hole letting his blocks develop then makes a guy miss or breaks tackles in the 2nd level and gets good yardage in chunks. Lots of ppl whove played against Priest dating back to his hs and ut days, have said Holmes was one of the toughest guys to bring down. Hes a yds after contact artist, and Hunt is gonna be the same way.

I didnt know much about Hunt, not like I knew about Cook whom I wanted KC to draft. So far it appears KC made the right choice, although Cook is having a good year and would most likely have similar results. Wish Reid would run the ball more. He has a knack for abandoning the run.

It will all come full circle. Give it time.

I was right about Kareem Hunt. I knew this would happen. I"m a Football mastermind.

Far and away the best rookie after 3 games. Hopefully he can stay healthy with his physical style of play.

Don't get why every one wants to shit on DJ'LN.

No one has ever had perfect record with talent evaluation.

Rudy has posted zero football evaluation about prospects.

Damn.

Hunt is the first player since 2012 that has had more than 3 runs of 50+ yards in a whole season...and he's done it in 3 weeks.

He's shit on other guys (me) who haven't had a perfect record with talent evaluation, so what comes around goes around.

I like DJLN, but he's a big boy, he can take it.

It's the fact that he won't own it. He even doubled down laat week on his apparent lack of burst.

I was right about Hunt.

I was right about Hunt.

The only thing I've gotten right is that every white TE from Notre Dame is dogshit. But your criticism is fair. College football is such a shitty product that I've about given up trying to predict anything of substance regarding prospects.

DJLN is a good football poster. Still fun to give him shit. Hell, if CP was in charge, Alvin Kamara would be our RB right now.

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Cook has twice as many carries too.

Hunt is really fun to watch run the ball. Ware will be a nice backup next year.

LT was ripping Deion for not calling him last night on NFL Network.

Sportcenter gave Hunt a game ball at the end of their broadcast.

At the end of the day...who gives a **** what the media thinks? Hunt is playing fantastic football and the team is winning.

Recognition will come in time.

LMAO

Okay that is just insulting. I do not sound like that.

The way LT was talking - it was like he wanted Deion to call him so that he could blow him.

LOL I know

Meh....just about most players from ND don't make it in the NFL. I've given up caring. I've only watched one ND game this year.

And I can admit that I wanted Kamara. Although I was just fine with Hunt when he was drafted.

Can't really lump Kamara into the discussion yet - he's mired in a three-headed backfield, while Hunt and Cook are the unquestioned workhorses for their teams.

DJLN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rudy anal ring toss

who are you?

He's better than Charles was as a rookie (fumble-itis), better than Charles in 2009 and better than Charles in his "Prime", which was 2012, when the Chiefs went 2-14.

Hunt is a 22 year old rookie who doesn't have any flaws in his game. He has thick legs, which gives him a great base and balance to go with his vision and soft hands.

The crazy part is that once the Chiefs have a healthy Morse and Ehinger, he'll be even better.

Look how horrifically Hunt is blowing away the league right now: http://www.footballdb.com/stats/stat...?mode=Y&lg=NFL

Wow. Gurley is getting abused with his 76 touches through 3 games. Shades of 2016 Lamar Miller.

Whoa, let’s calm down a bit here. Dude’s played 3 games.

Dude’s been incredible. It’s literally like night and day when he’s on the field as opposed to West.

But none of this will mean anything if he’s hurt/on the bench in January/February.

Fingers crossed for him to stay healthy.

And he's absolutely shredded each team he's faced.

It took Charles years to get to the point and it only lasted a little while.

On that last long touchdown run did anyone else notice the ref sprinting down the sideline and keeping up?

Please stay healthy you sexy beast

It's some kind of cosmic karma that we got our potential franchise QB and franchise RB in at the same time.

No sitting here praying for a QB while a stud gets the tread run off his tires....and no sitting here praying for playmakers while a franchise QB gets pounded into the dirt.

The next five years are going to be the best years of our lives as Chiefs fans.

LNBS: Dalvin Cook having amazing start w/ 288 yards rushing. Hunt has 401.
 

That’s awesome, but again it’s only a small sample size.

It didn’t take Jamaal years, by the way. He was drafted in 08 and had to sit behind a guy who just ripped off back to back 1,700 yard seasons. In 09 when JC took over feature back duties for the final 9 games of the season he led the league in rushing from that point.

Charles was elite from the back half of 2009 to the first 5 games of 2015. That’s a GREAT career for any RB. He wasn’t some flash in the pan.

6 TD's as well, which leads the NFL.

Man I don't want to get into a ginormous argument where we are talking past each other but here goes:

-if Hunt continues this level of production he will be the best back of all time. I think he will be slowed down some throughout the year.

-what I make my statements on is the runs on the field. Hunt got smoked a few times where I don't see Charles doing that. Charles played on a lot of bad football teams with ****all for holes to run through. I haven't seen anything from Hunt to think he could do that with no holes.

Maybe that's not fair. But Charles could squirt through a crack I don't see Hunt doing. Hunts top end speed isn't as good as Jamaals (even though it's better than I thought it would be) and his lateral speed, speed to the edge, and agility on cuts is behind Charles. I think people forget how ridiculously fast, balanced, and smart (in terms of patience and reading the defense) was. He's not that guy now but it is a true shame he was wasted under Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Franchise Killer Pioli.

On the other side, Hunt is stronger and could run through tackles better. But he can't make guys miss like Charles could so he has to break a few more.

RE: fumbles. Hunt is on pace for 5. Which is the most Charles had in any year. Link

Maybe my suggestion that Hunt will slow down isn't fair. If he can get close to Charles production over the long term without the injuries, he will have the better career but physically he can't do the things the Charles did to get yards with a garbage team.

All in all a good problem to have. I was VERY concerned when Ware went down. West and a rookie? Fuuu*******. I am so goddamned pleasantly surprised I am beyond elated. Goddamn. What a draft pick.

While Jamaal scoring tds for the donx makes me a little ill,
Hunt is the antidote I need.
He trucks dudes Jamaal would've outrun. I love that attitude.

Charles wasn't an elite back in 2011 because he was out with an ACL and he certainly wasn't "elite" in 2014-2015.

He had a nice window but he was fragile.

I always had a good feeling about this kid, AR doing the dirty work to find him. You can feel the electricity everytime this man touches the ball.

Holy Galloping Ghost. That list also includes WRs, too.

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HEY ME TOO

I was indifferent about Hunt

When you put up elite production in the two years sandwiching a year you sat out due to injury, I’m going to say you were still elite.

What, bro? Come on. He had 14 TDs in 2014. That was good for like third or fourth in the league. And in 2015 he was leading the league in TDs with 5 through 5 games.

He was elite from 09-15. He can go **** himself now but put some respek on his name.

Hunt has fumbled 1 time in 4 years of college and 3 pro games how does that put him on Pace for 5?

Once every 3 games over the course of 16 games translates to 5

There's not gonna be a player you can compare Hunt too. hunt is gong to be a unique talent that 10 years from now people will try to compare to him. We just nailed one.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

A little bitter?

Per PFF Hunts elusive rating is 158.0 The second best is Jordan Howard at 67.8

So you're taking the small sample size?

GOT DAM!

I've never understood Dane's disapproval of Charles. I can respect his argument for Priest over JC, even though I don't agree. But now he's trying to crown a guy whose played only three games over Jamaal? C'moooon, man!!!

I'm not looking at college. Given the competition level it's not particularly applicable.

1 fumble in 3 games is on pace for 5 in a 16 game season.

Come on, Dude. That was a fluke.

Ware hadn't fumbled since high school yet fumbled 4 times during the 2016 season.

Fluky shit happens.

You're ****ing not? What those two sister****ing reeruns did to the Franchise was downright criminal.

Anyone who's not bitter, I don't even...

So was Dane when he was comparing Hunt to Charles.

He's right. If he keeps up this pace he will outdo Charles. But it's early. And quite frankly it's amazing we get to even have the conversation amazing production out of a rookie 4th rounder.

I'm a bit older than you, which is maybe why I don't have the admiration for Charles as you and younger Chiefs fans, but Charles didn't lead the Chiefs to anything during his time in KC.

Losing season after losing season, injury after injury. He was out on the first series in Indy back 2013, wasn't nearly as effective in 2014 and was invisible in 2015 and 2016, except when he fumbled against Denver, which handed them the #1 seed overall that season. Had he not fumbled, the Chiefs would have likely had the #1 overall seed and the results could have been far, far, different.

I associate Christian Okoye with winning. I associate Marcus Allen with winning. I associate Priest Holmes with winning.

I associate Jamaal Charles with losing.

I get it. And I think he'll probably be better than Charles with fumbles. But I also think he'll probably cool off some.

It's just the nature of looking at these things this early. 5 fumbles in a year doesn't line up with what he did in college, but IIRC (I'd have to look up his nimbers) he wasn't this productive in college either.

Either way it will be fun to watch!

Dude, he was TOTALLY this productive in college.

1,800 yards from scrimmage last year in only 13 games.

Scouts missed on him because they were concerned his game wouldn't translate to the NFL because he played for Toledo in the MAC.

Fortunately for Chiefs fans, those scouts missed on him.

Which is extremely unfair. We were often a losing franchise with Jamaal through no fault of his.

Do you hold Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson and Tony Gonzalez to the same standard?

No, because all of those guys you mentioned are Hall of Fame players.

Charles is not.

Charles is about as close as it gets without getting in.

We didn't really win shit with Priest or Marcus Allen either, by the way. Have yet to win shit with Hunt.

There isn't anything to disagree with there. And I'd agree that injuries tarnish his legacy significantly. But prime Charles was still a ridiculous talent. The fact that he was able to get what he got on those historically bad teams is incredible. He ran into 9 man fronts every game until Reid got here and still put up all time numbers.

Beyond all the crap though, his vision, speed, quickness in cuts was flat out elite. And the fact that he could squirt through a crack consistently was miraculous.

I get the losing but I think you could have given Squirmin Herman Motherfuciing Sack of **** Edwards Peyton Manning in his prime and he'd still bumble on about how 3 bad things can happen if you throw the football or whatever it was. Losing was happening in those years despite how talented any one guy was IMO.

I don't really have a dog in the fight, I'm just amazed by what Jamaal did on those garbage teams.

JMO

I'm not stating that you, or my pal ThaVirus, are wrong.

I just saw those years through the lens of apathy and therefore, neither Charles nor the Chiefs really shined in any way.

My memories of that era almost don't exist.

That's 138 yards/game in college (non power 5 no less). And 179 yards/game in the NFL. Almost 30% more yards against significantly better competition isn't really applicable from my perspective.

I mean it could be. Reid's scheme is almost certainly better than what he had in college, his OL could be a lot better than at Toledo and he has gotten some really nice downfield blocking from the 3 games. I've also read that Toledos S&C program may not be so good, so he may be physically better now.

All that may be the case but a 30% increase from college is not likely to be sustainable IMO. I hope to hell it is because looking at the offense it needs to be there, but I wouldn't be surprised if he cools off some.

Hopefully he's our Levian Bell story.

I can see that. Thinking about the bumbling sister****ers of that time fills me with rage. I wish I could forget all about it.

EDIT: I should say I don't think about them often. It's just typically when Zilla white Knights Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards. Or I see that sniveling pile on ESPN or something. It doesn't control my life or anything, but like you I view those two douches the the lens of hatred rather than apathy.

Truly dark days for Chiefs fans.

Jamaal Charles was essentially the only reason I made it through those years.

I made it through because I've been a Chiefs fan since birth.

My memories of Charles are the same as those of guys like Gary Spani, Gary Barbaro, Art Still and so many otherwise great players stuck on awful teams.

I'm sure this is difficult to grasp for those younger than me but there was a time when Arrowhead Stadium had about 30,000 people per game.

They also went 15 years between playoff berths. Not 15 years between playoff wins but 15 years without a playoff appearance.

15 years.

Damn..

What's worse: 15 years without a playoff berth or 23 years without a playoff win?

0-4 after first round byes is the worst of all

I mean at least we’re not the Bengals or the Lions...

I am older than you, and I appreciate the greatness of Jamaal Charles.

Dismissing him because he played on shit teams is shortsighted.

I was right about Dante Hall! I'm 1 for 1, 100%!