Chiefs focused on Mahomes, McCaffrey, and Cunningham in RD1
 

SEE POST #11 FIRST

... the word in the Chiefs building is that they would like to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes or RB Christian McCaffrey in the first round. If this falls through, he said they like ILB Zach Cunningham a lot as well.

He won't work there for long.

Too descriptive about who he is, i would remove it or alter it.

just sayin'

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For Mahomes.

**** white RBs.

Bout to get your boy fired ROFL

OK, gang......

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Your friend needs to keep his ****ing mouth shut.

That said, thanks for passing the info to us :)

Mahomes makes no sense to me for the Chiefs

He is the exact opposite of what the Chiefs' offense is about.

Reid going to change his offense almost completely?

Mahomes is a spread-them-out-playaction-pass type offense, not WCO dink and dunk

McCaffrey would be a perfect fit for the Chiefs

Great.

I have it on good authority that Bill O'Brien has already read this thread and is expected to trade up and take Mahomes.

GG OP. G mother****in' G.

Reid has always changed his offense for his QB. McNabb ran the Alex Smith version and Vick ran what would be the Mahomes version.

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works for me, i would still be very surprised

**** Mccaffrey who the **** wants to draft this douche. He sucks and will not be good in the NFL. Draft a rb and a white one when you can get the same ****ing player in round three or four. I'd be on the bandwagon tp fire Dorsey if he drafts him

McCaffrey would fit in really nicely

Yea, I really don't get the McCaffrey hate on CP. He would be fantastic in this offense.

Because, Broncos

McCaffrey would be awesome here but my response was why trade up for him if Mahomes is on the board? Which would likely be the case... source said they prefer Mahomes.

They're going to have to leap Denver if they want McCaffery. There is no way that Denver will pass on him.

McCaffrey will be an Eagle. There's no way in hell Doug Peterson is passing on him. He fits the Eagles as well as he fits us.

I'm torn between the thought of me cheering a McCaffrey and Ed having to cheer for the Chiefs.

That said, I'm 100% on board for Mahomes.

Im not sold on Mahomes, but if the Chiefs are, then im all in.

Gonna sell a lot of jerseys wherever he goes.

Nobody knows who we have targeted for certain. I like Mahomes but a white RB? I mean seriously, he's white and not to mention an RB in round 1 is a wasted pick. You can get one in the third that will be just as good. Good blocking makes more difference than the RB.

Wow

Did someone say racist?


I coulda worn

In this case it's OK

Kill whitey

Lord loves a workin man, don't trust whitey, and if you get it, go to the doctor and get rid of it.

New info. Won't tell my source. Chiefs will draft a player I'm the first round, unless they trade down. Again, my source wants to be confidential, but this is at least 90% sure, everytime.

of course, the QB would be valued above the RB

I imagine that they would be will to trade up for Mahomes but would just sit and wait for McCaffrey or Cunningham.


I don't think Dorsey wants to trade up at all, he loves his draft picks too much.

I think you're sleeping on what Mccaffery brings to the table. He would be every bit the chess piece that Westbrook used to be for Andy in Philly. You may be able to find a runner that is somewhat capable of what Mccaffery is in the 3rd, but as receiver as well? Not a chance.

Only player I'd be ok trading up for would be Mahomes, but overall, I'd be very pleased with ending up with any of the 3 listed. Thanks for the scoop!

He gave way more info about his source and then deleted it because he wrote TOO MUCH about it. He could have gotten his source fired.

So back off a bit about that bud

I see

In that case, the Chiefs shouldn't draft Watson because he's black.


Black people are too dumb to play Quarterback.



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McCaffrey is very Jamaal Charles-like


*ducks and hides under the table*

If Charles was slower and was swallowed up and shut down by any decent D-line he came up against. Just watch tape on the '15 and '16 Stanford-WSU games and see McCaffrey get completely shut down.

Doesn't matter when your original post is still quoted for all the world to read...

Laz trimmed up the quoted OP and kept what was originally on there confidential, which was appreciated

No, it's not.

I edited the quote from the very beginning to get rid of the extra information.

Can somebody PM me what was taken out of the OP. I MUST KNOW!!

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No, it's OK in this case because of the McCaffrey /Broncos connection

uh, no dude. It's all the same.

correction, alex smith is TRYING to run the mcnabb version, he just wont go down the field enough

I'm totally on board to move up for mahomes, but not mini-mac. I might be ok if he's still sitting there for 27, but would prefer cunningham or edge rusher if that's the case, so i guess it's a no for my taste.

McCaffrey is sick. He, Cook, and Fournette are elite. But RB is extremely deep in this draft.

Not sold on Mahomes. At all.

Cunningham is a high energy, athletic LB that doesn't lack effort and fills a need. Would rather, admittedly biased, have Jarrad Davis.

They are both studs and would be really nice at 27.

I bet Dorsey sees Cunningham as a Bernardrick McKinney type.

every player can get shut down.. gotta look at overall consistent work. Mccaffrey is a beast.

agree, doubt davis is still there at 27 but ya never know. ILB is a spot that just seems to slip in the 1st for more glamorous positions.

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FTR I'd probably take Davis over Cunningham

Zach Cunningham is a need pick. I can think of 5 players off the top of my head that would be far better picks.

He's not a first rd player

What did AJ Feeley and Kevin Kolb run?

Cunningham has amazing range for an ILB and would be a nice replacement for DJ. One gripe I have with him is that he seems to arm tackle way too much. The same thing we have complained about Ramik for

Mark these 3 off the list of players the Chiefs will actually end up with.

Alex smith is not the one calling 15 bubble screens each game.

JFC, nevermind ... believe whatever you want

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Nobody said they were looking at Cunningham in the 1st round.

maybe Cuningham is the trade down target

No he isn't but he's one of the reasons Andy calls so many. Weak arm and can't see wide open playmakers behind the defense for scores. Alex is that limited and has been proven to be over and over again on game tape break downs.

#NoWhiteRB

#noBlackQBs

I don't see Mahomes dropping to #27 but I'll be ecstatic if they manage to grab him. Guy has potential out the ass and could see him being Steve Young after 2-3 years of experience.

I disagree...in part.

I think he IS a first round player, but he'd also be a need pick if acquiring him necessitated any kind of trade up.

He gets knocked because he's a little unique as a player; really weird tackler. His form leaves a lot to be desired but he's not a conventional drag tackler either. He's a 'roll' tackler for lack of a better way of putting it. He locks on and rolls guys over. He's actually damn effective.

But yeah, it looks funny. And while his athleticism doesn't leap off the page, people forget to consider how his reach impacts what he can get to. He's not as quick as Foster but where Foster gains a step running, Cunningham gets that right back by having go go gadget arms.

He's a different kind of player so people don't know what to think about him. Personally I think he'll be a damn good player that will go around pick 45 at the latest and could easily get up into the mid-20s.

I just watched the complete highlights for McCaffrey, Fournette and Cook.

I don't know man, they say he runs a 4.5 but McCaffrey seems a LOT slower or at least less quick than these guys. If Cook's shoulders are okay I'd be all about him.

That said, draft Mahomes.

If Alex Smith was limiting Reid's playcalling so much then why haven't we been looking to replace him? We've only been selecting middle-round QB's that just fall into the 'taking a shot' category.

Makes no sense

If Andy Reid was so limited by his QB then why have we passed on viable QB in the draft. No trading up needed, they were sitting right there. Why not push the development of the guys we did draft instead of signing a veteran #2 each year. Why didn't Reid just switch to Foles permanently if Alex Smith could never run the offense the way Reid wanted because of physical limitations?

Makes no ****ing sense

You may be right about Mahomes but one thing stood out to me on the few highlight videos I watched. Based on everything I was hearing about his arm I was expecting to see a barrage of long balls. But what stood out to me was that he threw a lot of check downs. I thought to myself that I could see why Andy was interested. He seemed like he could play Reid's offense but with the added dimension of being able to sling it deep.

I just watched his highlight video. Holy arm tackles Batman! I don't think that will work in the NFL especially not on short yard situations.
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The "cons" on Mahomes are all footwork and the offense he played in. So with bad footwork he's extremely accurate in all throws. If he gets better footwork he gets more accurate.

I fail to see how that's a problem. Then there's the offense he played in. Well he took snaps from center in practice and played a quick read system. That's...actually what Reid runs.

Why should we be worried about Mahomes again? He has a cannon, is ballsy and his footwork is not a concern. This seems like a no-brainer. He also seems dedicated and focused.

He does arm tackle, yes.

If you know that going in, though - watch how he does it. It's not a drag tackle and he's not a guy that EVER gets run through because his arms are so damn long that he can still wrap.

He's a weird, weird prospect. I like him, but I can certainly understand why some don't. I just take some umbrage with the idea that he's Ramik Wilson picking around the pile or Donnie Edwards getting carried 5 yards past first contact. What he does, he does on purpose and not because he's tentative. He's a willing tackler, he just appears to have always gotten great results with this odd technique of his so he still uses it.

We shouldn't be.

Which is exactly why we won't get a shot at him unless it costs us an arm and a leg to move up. Some team will see exactly what you're describing and use a pick in the top 15ish to grab him.

If we couldn't get a QB I'd be down for Mccaffrey. That guy is a stud.

Maybe Reid does want to add the long ball but that's not what a traditional WCO is about. All the big plays from the WCO are supposed to come from YAC.

Dink and dunk the defense to death, have a QB that can hit the 3rd and 6 pass for a 1st down every single time. The WCO is death by a 1000 cuts, not bombs away. You want accuracy,timing and consistency, not arm strength. Andy Reid gets scared whenever we turn the ball over. He is not a guy who wants a QB that throws for 400+yrds with 5tds and 2ints. He wants 250 yrds with 2-3tds and 0 ints.

Reid is about being safe and conservative ... let the other team lose the game for you

Mahomes is about attack,attack,attack until the defense just gives up.

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You're probably right but it struck me that Mahomes threw a lot of those passes you describe. A lot more of the shorter timing passes and check downs than I was expecting to see. And maybe that is what Reid sees. Maybe the long ball is just a bonus.

Having bad fundamentals can work in lower levels playing against lesser players but the higher you go the more they can be exploited. He played in a system it's easy to look accurate and where he exploited terrible defenses for a lot of yards. The majority of the air raid QBs have completion percentages of 65% and over, it's not because they're all the most accurate QBs ever, it's because of the system.

His mechanics are what worries me the most. It's not hard to see Mahomes in a Blake Bortles type situation where he's in his 4th year in the league and still working on his mechanics.
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I'm in the minority on McCaffrey. I think he's perfect for Andy's offense. That said, I would only want to move up for a QB.

Who are those viable QB's we passes on?

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I think he's perfect for the offense too. Quick RB with pass catching ability is perfect.
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Dalvin Cook had 79 catches for 935 yards.

Faster than McCaffrey, better stats.

There seems to be too much smoke out there about the chiefs liking mahomes for it to be true. Dorsey and company seem to play it pretty close to 5he vest on who they'll be taking.

Stats can be deceiving

If you watched McNabb back in the day, you would have seen him playing sandlot football.

**** the play, **** the progressions ... McNabb just held the ball and ran around until he could chuck it deep. Most plays were nothing more than McNabb in one big scramble drill.

IMO That was part of the reason why Reid traded McNabb in the end. Reid hated that McNabb just told him to **** off and did what he wanted to.

As soon as McNabb was forced into a real offense he turned to complete shit.

Injuries and fumbles are a big concern with Cook