So it begins..Browns might take Trubisky 1st overall?
 

Adam Schefter

Just had an NFL exec tell me, "Don't be surprised if Myles Garrett isn't the No. 1 pick." Exec convinced a QB is in discussion at No. 1.

Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes will all be gone by pick 13.

I had no clue why he wasn't going top 5.

Cam Newton only played a year in college. It's been done before. He looks like a great prospect.

Also from Schefter..

Cleveland has not made up its mind at No. 1, per source. Split opinions. Some like Myles Garrett, some like Mitchell Trubisky. We will see.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Because they're the Browns.

What do you want to bet Dorsey has narrowed the list down to 3 or 4 QB's and one way or another they are all gone before he can even trade up.

He played one year at Auburn but that's because he transferred from another program.

Very likely. Shit for supply, much for demand.
Shit is in demand.

Looks like Clay and a few others will get their wish.

QBs will come off the board earlier than we think. The Chiefs will stand pat, and they absolutely should. Trading up for anybody but Trubisky is a bad idea, and even then Trubisky is not worth a huge trade up to the mid teens or further.

So we'll wait until 2018. And do the exact same thing when the top 4 come off the board before we can even muster up the gumption to get on the phone.

No QBs for the Chiefs.

If Cleveland is sooo stupid to take any of these QBs #1 overall, well, they deserve to suck.

And oh yeah, lying season/smokescreens with two weeks to go. Injury leaks will be next.

I wonder if any "Laremy Tunsil gas mask" videos will surface this year.....

"Trubisky, Watson and Mahommes will all be picked in the top 10 and at some point the Chiefs will select Nate Peterman, Brad Kaaya or Josh Dobbs"

With every day that gets closer to the draft, that sentence becomes more and more true.

So? Trubisky was a backup since 2013 at UNC.

Cam was a backup at Florida for Urban Meyer's Tebow team. That's hardly a QB breeding ground or a place where he's going to get the necessary tools to become pro ready.

He won a national championship with Blinn College in TX before going to Auburn. He played a lot of football that culminated in his second national championship with Auburn.

This is definitely bullshit. I still think one of the QB's will make it to 27 too.

Slow time of the year. This is just the experts artificially filling airtime.


Nothing to see here.

Kizer and that's it

Poor Trubisky :(

Then **** this team and its inability to solve the QB position outside of 49ers QBs.

They should take a qb.

Yea, but not at 1. You don't pass on Garrett.

Given their front office turnover in the last year... and given what DePodesta has done so far, I'm not sure anyone can predict exactly how they'll draft. They are pretty much blazing their own path here. It's kind of fun to watch.

If you think this guy will become a stud, and he won't be there at 12 it would make sense to take him.

I love pass rushers as much as the next guy, but they'll never have the impact a QB will.

I still think there's a solid chance Mahomes or Watson make it. I just can't see some of the QB needy teams passing up on the other talent available for a QB that needs to sit at least a year.

I wouldn't blame the Browns for taking him. Nobody thinks any of these QBs are worth a first round pick much less the overall one pick but if you don't have a QB then you have nothing. They have zip at the position to believe in at all.

You must have a stud these days and no price is too high to pay if you get one. If you fail then make moves and do it again. QB is the only reason we are not considered a real title threat. We have everything else more than good enough but we have a sorry ass QB that is a proven non scoring loser.

I would trade Houston and Berry for Aaron Rogers tomorrow.

Garrett is good, but I don't know that he's von miller 2.0

I'd roll the dice and hope derek barnett is there at 12. Trubisky at 1 barnett at 12.

"We're just unlucky" is an excuse you can only make so many times.

The same goes for, "You can't hold Reid and Dorsey responsible for the mistakes made by their predecessors." After so long, their best of a bad situation fix becomes a mistake when they let him fester for 4 ****ing seasons.

Mahomes won't be there

So you're good with giving up 3 1st rd picks, 2 2nd rd picks and a 3rd rd pick as the starting point to move into the top 10?

There is zero chance Watson or Mahomes is anywhere near our pick. They are both top 15 picks...looking like top 10.

Andy ****ed up his golden chance by passing on Derek Carr for Alex ****ing goddamn Smith. Dorsey has him high on the board right there to pick and Andy chose this soft bitch QB over him.

if the Chiefs get a QB later in the draft, it will be because Dorsey is a goddamned wizard.

Hell will freeze over before Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes all go top 10, or even top 15. Every year people expect QBs to be drafted higher than they will be. Just look at 2014 with Carr, Bridgewater, and Manziel.

It's a lot easier for teams to say they might take a project QB in the top 10 on April 11th than it is on Draft Day. When they have blue chip talent right in front of them, for teams who have holes everywhere, that will be hard to pass up.

Exactly. All the draft gurus I trust seem to feel the same way also.

Carr was practically never thought of as a first round QB. He was one of those, "Eh, maybe in the middle rounds" guys early in the draft season who crept up to a 2nd round pick and eventually got SOME consideration as a late 1st.

Carr was not thought of well bc of his brother and Teddy fell bc of his hand size and small weak frame (which was proven right).

There are more QB needy teams this year.

You're really underestimating the talent at the top of the draft. I just can't see those QB needy teams passing up on studs ready to play now for QB's that need a redshirt year. We're one of the very few teams that make sense in the 1st for guys like Watson and Mahomes, which is why we're being connected frequently in mocks. Just look at Lynch and the Broncos last year. As the draft got closer, we thought he had no chance of getting close to our pick, but teams picking early are going to have a hard time taking a QB that has to sit AT LEAST a year.

It's an extremely deep draft at RB, TE, Edge, S, CB and WR is decently deep too. Teams can afford to take a QB in rd 1 and get a couple starting caliber players to fill holes.

There's a ton of smoke around Watson and Mahommes. 18 teams are visiting with Mahomes...most of any QB prospect.

He's going top 15

You and I said the same thing about Lynch last year. I'm not going to be so quick to fall for that again. A guy that needs as much work as Mahomes does is not a lock for the top 15. Same as Watson.

Didn't the browns suck so bad they moved to Baltimore one time?

and cleveland should have never let them back in. :D

No QB is going #1...this is just click-bait smoke.

its actually good strategy if the browns are baiting others that are interested in him. if no one bites, they take miles, and mitch(el) at 12. win win for the browns if rumor is true. :D

ETA: hell, they could even use the 12 as bait too, get more picks. lets say NO ONE talks to cleveland about the number one pick for mitch. then they ask, would you part with something for the 12 spot. i get the feeling cleveland is going to end up with the entire draft board for the 18 and 19 seasons ROFL

I hope all the early QBs KC is considering are gone....there is going to be some talent left at #27. This is the type of draft to build a future foundation around.

KC needs an OLB, ILB, RB, and CB...they might pick up another TE too.

They are taking Garrett #1, simple. What they do from there though with #12 and many more picks is anyone's guess. They could trade up to #2 with the remainder if they wanted to. Maybe they trade up ahead of the Jets to #5 and take Trubisky there. You never know. But they aren't passing on Garrett, not a chance in hell.

you are missing the point. trade bait. :D

As it has been said many times. It's the time of year you don't believe a goddamned thing coming from NFL FOs.

a QB will be the Browns 12th overall pick.

I've said all along none of those tier 1 QB's will last till 27. Dorsey won't trade up either as his philosophy is to build through the draft and he's not giving up picks. We have a shot at drafting 5 starters in the first 3 rounds and Alex smith has 5 years left in the tank.

If this is even accurate, it's just Browns PR playing to Trubisky's hometown allegiance statements. No way he's a 1.1. His top end is Flutie, talented but still a physical oddity to accommodate.

Excellent. The Browns will surely have the #1 pick again next season. And they'll trade it to us, after we give them three 1sts + considerations.

Just hope the Chargers don't trade up to get Garret. That would be awful !

I have also seen where Hue Jackson is a big fan of AJ McCarron and would rather have him for the 33 pick of the draft and take other players at 1 and 12.

Smith for five more years! That had better not happen if they expect fans not to fire up the banners again. It's bad enough he's still here and a total fail by management much less a complete fail for five more years.

5 years left in the tank? The tank of what? A gas powered dildo?

I know, these 11-5 and 12-4 seasons suck ! Just think if we had Geno smith we would be awesome.

January 11th, 1970

Yeah, seasons with no playoff wins really do suck.

2015 Chiefs 30 texans 0
2016 Chiefs 1st round bye=win, Divisional Gamelost on a bullshit holding call
2017 Chiefs win SB

As long as this team wins more games than it loses, there won't be any fan revolt in K.C.

Any one that believes this is an utter moron.

LMAO

It's fans like you that keep the Clarks fat and happy.

Explain your logic

He is the next Bortles

Tie score with over a minute left for the Steelers to drive into FG range.

Why is that a problem with our elite championship defense?

This may not be directed specifically to me.

However, to be clear, I have said repeatedly that the loss to the Steelers was a total team failure, from offense, to defense, to ST, and to coaching.

Schefter said all 3 would be gone by pick 13??

I gotcha.

Just continuing to fester over the reeruned;

1. Alex will never win
2. even if he gave us a lead, we'd give it up
Therefore
3. Alex is our only problem standing between the present and a dynasty.

I remain convinced that someone[s] on the field were much more hurt/limited than indicated. That or, there was some hyper-intense closed door drama that left players in tantrum mode.

Almost from the first snap, the entire team played like a 'just not our day today' team, almost like they expected a chance to regoup and try over. Not the best look for the playoffs, but it is what it is.

I want the Joe Williams kid at RB by round 3. Medium risk, high reward.

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Man are you stupid. Smith was acquired in 2013 for two second round picks, well before Carr was even declared for the draft in 2014. Please quit talking out of your rear end

He chose to stick with Alex instead of draft a good developmental QB to take over, which was the right move...

You are out of touch with this organization. Just stop. Andy wasn't going to wait until 2014 to gamble on an unknown. Carr looks good because he has weapons all over and the number one o line. Just wait and see what happens as they struggle with the salary cap and are forced to develop their own talent. Chiefs own this division for the next 3 years with Reid Dorsey

He was a good part of Toto, but he's too old these days. :harumph:

Trubisky will be gone by 13. Possibly Watson. Mahomes? No ****ing way will he go that early.

No GM is gonna blow a pick that early on a QB that's THAT erratic. There's too much safer talent out there.

The Browns would get a ton of shit for it....but if I were them....I'd pass on Trubisky unless he was there at 12. Take Garrett, stock your team with talent using the 12 picks you have this year and roll with Osweiler. You'll probably suck again and you can draft a QB next year. You know....the opposite of what the Chiefs should be doing.

I'd rather have Peterman, Kaaya or Dobbs than no Qb at all. No sense in whining about circumstances that are completely out of the Chief's control and you never know, they may uncover a gem.

This.

Leaks to try to convince someone to trade up.

Nobody is going to bite (or if they do, it will have nothing to do with this stupid leak but rather a king's ransom to get Garrett) - Garrett is by far and away the class of the field this year and the Browns have another pick at 12 with no clear distinction between the QBs.

They can take the consensus #1 player in the draft (by a TON) and still get a QB that is as likely to be successful as Trubisky is at 12, if only because they're all dice rolls in this draft.

Stupid article is stupid.

This. Either draft him, or trade the pick for capital next year

You're shitting me.

A guy that quit the team his senior year, has serious fumble issues, can't catch out of the backfield and can't pass protect is 'medium risk'?

WTF qualifies as 'high risk' in your world? Does one have to actually be indicted for murder during the pre-draft process before he hits that mark?

Oh, and as for high reward - dude's fast, but he's not agile, he's an upright runner and again - fumbles all the time and can't catch passes out of the backfield.

Joe Williams is a shit, shit, SHIT prospect, especially for this team. He's a worthwhile gamble in the 7th (because again - speed), but that's about it. There are literally 15 running backs in this draft more likely to contribute to this team than Joe Williams. Hell, there are 2 running backs named Williams more likely to contribute.

Look who you ****ing quoted.