Here is what I think is going to happen.
 

This is all about where I think the 4 QB's are going to go in the draft, with regards to what has been happening in free agency. Consensus is that none of the top 4 are ready to start day one, and will need a year of coaching up. It also seems to be the consensus that with some coaching, some of these 4 could wind up being very good. Which one is debatable, but that is entirely a different topic.

I'm starting to think the QB run is going to start at #11, and is going to be over by #17.

I think the Saints start the run at #11 with Brees just turning 38 in January.

I'm thinking the Patriots deals over the past few days sets them up perfectly to deal Garopollo to the Browns close to the draft for a haul of draft picks starting with #12. In turn, I see the Pats using this pick to get the guy to groom behind 40 year old Brady.

And the Cards have pick #13, with Palmer turning 37 and contemplating retirement a couple of months ago according to some. He could be a good bet to retire after this next season.

Philadelphia and #14, Indy and #15, and Baltimore at #16 are set at QB for the foreseeable future.

But Washington at #17 seems very much like a team that will need a QB very soon.

If we really have one/or two QB's that we have an interest in drafting for the future, Buffalo at #10 might have to be the target to get that guy.

Just my thoughts.

The Chiefs will never ever draft a first round QB. The earth will fall into the sun before that happens.

Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson are two of the best over the past 5 drafts care to disclose which rounds they came from, Dave?

And this question is relevant to Dave's post in what way?

Just telling you what I think is going to happen before it happens. I could be way off, and most likely am. Maybe none of them go in the 1st round. But those 4 teams have the prefect opportunity to groom a guy for a year of two... just like us. IF we want one, I'm thinking we have to go to #10, because at #14 you are going to be left with the scraps.

The Saints are said to be trying to load up on defense this year, which makes sense. I could definitely see Arizona doing it, but they have many holes now that they didn't once have. Washington is a ? because it seems they don't want Kirk long term, but would they already take his replacement? I'm not sure.

Patriots are not drafting a 1st round QB. They like Jacoby almost as much as they like Jimmy G.

I think this was meant for me, not Dave. If there is really a guy that we want, we have the ammo to go get them this season, not settle for what may or may not be left.

It's a draft day decision, provided all are still on the board at #10, but waiting 'til #14 may be to late IMO.

I could see the Saint's other 1st being their defense pick in round 1. That is if all 4 QB's are there at their pick.

I'm with you man, I just don't want the faintest of faint hopes to be crushed another time. I really do feel like they just can't get over the possible stigma of failure so the have to take a player that can hide the failure amongst other teammates. See OL and DL

I don't know. Just feels like Hoodie is up to something. He has added some pretty big pieces in FA, and can afford to roll the dice in the draft.

:clap: The history certainly indicates that this is true. :cuss:

For years around here, it has been cussed and discussed weather to build the team first and then add the QB, or to draft the QB and then build the team. Welp, we have pretty much built the team. Not every spot maybe, but pretty damn close.

It may be time to go get the QB. #10 may be the spot we have to go to get that QB.

Just trying to think ahead of the curve... rather than behind it.

If Dorsey believes in a guy then he'll go for him but implying that our next QB will only be worthwhile if he's a first rounder is silly. I honestly think If anyone has that high ceiling potential he's a guy that will have to sit two years to work on them. Rodgers was a guy who had serious throwing flaws that GB fixed while he sat behind Favre.

I think the Chiefs will stay put in the first round and not draft a quarterback till second day. Then say they got their guy they wanted.

That's kind of what I am saying. If there is a guy Dorsey wants, we may have to go to #10 to get him. Waiting 'til pick #14 may be too late.

That's very possible. I'm just thinking the "top" QB's go at 11,12,13 and 17.

Jets at 6, Bills at 10, Cardinals at 13. I think the Browns will trade their #12 for Garappolo.

Jets I could see, unless they land Cutler or Siemian. Bills just re-signed Taylor. They could use more draft picks. That helps make them a likely target. I do think the Browns get Garopollo with 12. I see hoodie picking up a couple of more draft picks with the trade and getting a QB in that spot if he has his choice. It's as high as he would probably be for a few years.

Really doesn't matter.

None of what Dorsey has done so far suggests a trade up. He's spent all of FA minimizing holes on the roster. You don't give a 1.8 million dollar tender to Albert Wilson unless your plan is to follow your board religiously come draft day. Wherever the chips fall this year, Dorsey is going BPA.

Had not seen that Taylor had restructured his contract. Last I heard is that he was cut. Yes that probably removes them from drafting a QB.
It would take WAY WAY WAY to much for us to trade into the top 10.

Maybe it would cost a lot. But if you wind up with the franchise QB, it could be cheap. We have 11 picks. You could move 5 of them and still have 6. Our 1st, 2nd, one 3rd, 4th, and one 5th puts us close on points.

Still leaves #10, a 3rd, a 5th, 2 6ths, and a 7th. Dorsey has done some good work with late picks.

I see that completely opposite.
With no immediate holes it would allow a team to move up and draft a player, QB, that can set a year.

I think it would take our 27th, our 2cd or 3rd and a 1st next year to move up 17 spots into the top 10.

Also Squeelers are gonna need a qb with Ben contemplating retirement. They won't have good draft position next year as it's likely to be big rapes retirement tour...

What I threw out was 100 points off on the point chart. But it is 4 more picks this year for the Bills. Takes them from 6 picks to 10. And they are short picks in the middle of the draft. A quantity deal if you may.

I wouldn't do this 'til the day of the draft, and the QB targeted is still on the board. I'd just have the Bills ready, just in case.

Dorsey traded up for chris ****ing conley. If his guys in jeopardy he's gonna go get him. Let me say it again. Chris ****ing conley.

Will you pledge to never post again if they do?

Steelers actually draft after us, unfortunately.

I don't think he merits one. The Steelers may have lost some lustre with regards to the support they have traditionally received in the league offices. Bell being a chronic along with the whole strange injury report shenanigans can't help things. The Brown facebook live stunt was more an internal issue, but cast Tomlin and company as jive turkeys.
Big Ben's persona has been spotty at best.

I think Houston and Oakland will get the league's favour in short order.

I might promise to not mention trumps name until he's impeached, so maybe 3-4 months I'd lay off.

Of course you wouldn't make the trade unless your guy was there, but if he is there they are going to want more than equal in points.
Charts can be a guideline, but as has been talked about by several different GMs, different teams have different charts which can vary by several hundred points. Like I said if the player you want is there and it is a QB especially you are going to have to overpay to get that pick.

Do you think the Falcon's would rather have the draft picks back, or have Julio Jones?

I'm just thinking the sweet spot for the top 3 QB's to come off the board looks like 11,12, and 13. Aging QB's (or the Brown's if they keep the pick), and year or two to learn under them. If we want one, 10 better be in the conversation. Otherwise you have to gamble on lightning striking like happened for the Cowboys.

Only a liberal would think doing your job and improving America could get you impeached.

Who is improving America? NOT TRUMP
Keep your political shit in DC.

Do you think any of these QBs are to the QB position what Julio is to the WR position?
I sure don't and don't believe that any reasonable person believes that.

I don't know. I'm just thinking if the Chiefs think one of these guys is the guy, it may take a jump to number 10 to get that QB. I see a scenario where they are gone by 14.

Just something to think about on a lazy Sunday.

I agree with your sentiment in that if they identify who "their guy" is then they need to go get him.

Is this English?

Typical weak ass shit.
Keep that political shit in DC.

I don't think you are way off at all. Quite frankly, you make a ton of sense. :thumb:

Do any of these QBs pass the Parcell requirements to QB in the NFL??

Saints aren't picking a QB while they are still paying Brees out the ass.

Totally get your point, BUT Julio was ready day one to star in the NFL,however any of these 4 QBs are not and a much bigger roll of the dice IMHO.

I'm still shocked that Carson Palmer is still in the league.

Don't forget dark horse elements involved like trading Kelce to move up

I fully expect the Chiefs to try and trade down again. When they do pick first it will be defense. Just a thought.

That's my guess unless their guy is right there for the taking.:hmmm:

We will sign someone else's castoff to be our backup QB.

Dumbass, simpleton, ChiefPlanet train of thought. The Cubs will never win a World Series either, right?

What?:shake: did you just make that up?

Most likely

Although when a draft is strong is one area, Dorsey seems to like to poach another area to get a guy that would normally get picked higher.

I would guess tightend but Reid seems to have a hardon for Harris.


Wide Receiver?

Why in the **** would we trade arguably our best player?

Hill and Kelce are the guys that make our offense go, little that it does.


Adding an explosive RB would give us a triple threat which would be more helpful that trading one of our key guys away.

I was expecting this repose if the Chiefs want a player they believe can play at a high level at the most important position in all of sports ithen it's logical to do whatever it takes. Added to that the derth of talent at the TE position is pretty deep

You don't seem to understand a couple of things. We would have to give up all of our top picks that would put us in a position to be able to HOPEFULLY replace Kelce. Since this draft is deep at the position it diminishes the value that Kelce possesses.
Dumb idea is dumb.

Me too! Kinda why I think Cards would grab one of the top 3 at #13. See the Saints, and possibly Pats after they hose the Browns, doing the same.

I think the Saints are trying to make another run for the SB before Brees is gone. So I don't think that a QB makes sense.

That's fine. You could be right. I just think if we want one of the top QB's we are going to have to go in front of those 3 teams to guarantee getting one. Yes it will be expensive, but if we hit it will be worth it IMO.

Now if we are not interested in a QB, stay put. Trade down. Whatever.

Exactly. :thumb:

So glad I have that clown Tiger on ignore. What an assclown

Way to contribute to the thread.

No one is giving up 5 picks to get any of these QBs, certainly not Dorsey. Unless someone hires Ditka as GM.....


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Well...as far as the Cubs go, it did take a really really ****ING REALLY long time for them to win one.

There are probably other ways, but they would require picks next year. We would still have 6 this way. I'm good however they do it if we go there.

I just don't think the good QB's get by pick 13.

Again, I'm just kind of thinking out loud on a slow Sunday.

I understand, but these guys are all projects. Spending 5 picks to get a project is just not going to happen.

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If Clark thinks Mahomes is the real deal Dorsey will do everything in his power to select him

Isn't next years QB class supposed to a lot better than this year's?

If that's the case, wouldn't we want a bunch of other teams to draft QBs in the first round this year instead of next year?

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

I agree with this. CP always overvalues QBs in the draft. Hell, this place nearly melted down when we didn't take Geno Smith at 1.1.

i agree. i have made the argument that if the chiefs 'love' someone maybe move up a little. otherwise, and i have not a clue what next years draft class will be qb wise, they may wait.

i still think they take a 'potential' round one'r, in round two, but no later. :D

LOL

This is far more likely. None of these "top" QBs are worth moving up for. If one of these 4 falls to 27, and they like him enough to develop? fine. More likely, 3 of the 4 QBs are selected before 27... and CP melts down over the 4th one being passed over.

I think Andy's wacking it for a guy like Peterman on day 2.

Again, I was just looking over the draft board and pondering what has happened/rumored to happen in free agency. Top flight, ready to start day one, QB talent goes 1-10 in the draft. I don't see that either with these guys. But they do talk 3 of these guys could be really good given a year or two to sit... like Favre and Rodgers did. Saints, Browns/Pats, and Cards have very near future needs at that position. I'm not saying they will go QB, but I won't be shocked either to see some combination of Trubiski, Watson, and Mahomes go right ther in those 3 picks.

They get by there, good chance outside of Washington at 17 they fall to us. I just don't think they get by there.

I agree with every word of this

Mahomes to KC...get used to it

I have a weird feeling if we draft a QB round 1 it will be Davis Webb, but honestly Mahommes and Webb are similar players. Spread offense, rocket arm, etc so I think most would be good with either.

Every year there will be 3-4 teams in need of a QB, so it doesn't really matter. We won't get a shot at them either.

I am pretty certain we get our guy this year. CP will unite in harmony.

:grouphug:

Hey, only about 5 billion years to go!

So 1 billion 49er backups later..m