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Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with?
I'm in favor like everybody else on this board (and 85% of the NFL) of upgrading at QB.
But there is nobody to do that with. It's easy to say it should be done. Which of these steps are you willing to take? Poll coming. |
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Cut/Trade Smith.
Re-sign Foles. (optional) Trade up for Kizer. |
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I'd rather fix the play calling than replace Alex.The last few games before the steelers, offense was moving the ball fine. Why? Because they were running on first and second down, and putting Alex in 3rd & 3-5 yards. That scheme was completely abandoned against the steelers. Andy's fault or Childress? Who is actually calling the plays? Trying to stop Kelce, Maclin, Hill, Ware and spy Alex on third and short is literally impossible.
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Anyone have a gif of the scene in Christmas Vacation where the boss says
"Get me someone! Anyone! And get me someone while I'm waiting!" |
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just ****ing draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round god dammit. don't wait for the perfect QB draft class, because that doesn't exist. just find a talented guy you like who fits in the system (or who could grow into the system) and ****ing TRY FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!!!!
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Offer Detroit Alex Smith and no more than the value of a 2017 1st rounder + a single 3rd-5th rounder for Stafford and at least a 2017 2nd.
Slightly rougher cap hit for Stafford than Smith without severely handicapping ability to draft for other team needs in 2017 which is what it would take to draft a rookie QB this season. |
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Get a true OC. Design aggressive game plans.
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Cut/trade Smith.
Retain Foles. Draft Davis Webb. |
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Oh wait of course she is :) |
We don't have any really good choice. Draft a 2nd or 3rd rounder, and cross your fingers. Have Smith groom him, and if an injury happens--who knows. If Smith ends up as the guy again, Reid better take the reins off. To hell with losing a couple of games due to turn-overs, if we can trade those losses for wins with Smith playing more aggressively.
We've tried it the safe way enough with Smith; might as well try something else. I just don't know if Andy and Alex are up for it. |
I don't want a QB named "Mitch." You know within two or three games we'll all be calling him "Bitch."
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Cut/Trade Smith
Retain Foles Draft a freaking QB early |
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How's Eric Fisher working out for you? |
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I am waiting along with Sorter for you to clarify your statement that Phillip Rivers is the perfect QB for Reid's offense. |
If we can trade up to get Watson, I'd do it
All the other QBs will be long gone or we'll have to trade too far up to be a good idea. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Why would we replace PRO-BOWL QB Alex Smith?
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It seems that you are. |
I'm the only one that likes the idea of Rivers? In this offense with our play-makers he'd tear shit up. I still want to draft a QB high obviously, but our window isn't going to last forever.
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A) Foles
and B) Trade up for Tribusky or C) Trade up for Kizer or D) Take Mahomes in 2 or E) Trade up for Watson or F) Load up on picks for a QB next year Foles can be a band-aid until one of the rooks develop or we grab one in '18. I can't back Smith again. Not after that GIF. |
**** foles.
Cut them both, roll with rookie. |
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but it's behind this one: ALL IN FOR WATSON |
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Trade Alex Smith for Aaron Rodgers straight up. Green Bay would be getting great value based on draft position, so I think they'd go for it.
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Alex is a valuable trade chip to get draft stock back. I wanted to keep him one more year and draft his backup, but if we've got to get moving and shaking in the draft, it may make more sense to trade him now and use his value in a deal for a higher pick/QB.
No way this will happen, but if reality were like Madden, I'd throw Alex at San Diego for Philip Rivers. Supplement with extra draft picks as needed. |
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Fisher is an above average LT. He is an adequate run blocker. When KC did run the ball vs. Pitt, they averaged over 4 yds per carry. LT is very low on the priority list for improvements in the offseason. I win. |
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I'm not arguing, and have never argued, that we should replace Fisher. I'm arguing he's not winning the line of scrimmage against a tough front seven. He's primarily a finesse player. But have it your way. |
If we can find a set of cyborg legs, we should trade for Teddy Bridgewater and perform some surgery.
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I definitely wouldn't bet a mortgage on it happening, but it's about the only veteran for veteran trade that makes sense player, cap and draft wise in a vacuum. |
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Desean Watson but I doubt we'd have to trade much if anything to get him. His footwork is terrible but he's smart and I think it can be fixed in time.
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I went with Rivers or trade up for that Watson guy that I know nothing about but keep hearing about. I also said that I don't really know just to cover my bases.
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I've been a past supporter but if he's the starting QB in 2017, I'll seriously question whether or not I purchase the Sunday Ticket for the 15 consecutive year. |
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Fisher's done a decent enough a job of that this season. Hopefully he continues to improve. |
What about Bortles? You think Reid could fix him?
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:eek: Wow Dane.... I dropped NFLST when Herm was hired and have looked back... NFL Mobile does what I need it to do... Especially if its a beautiful Sunday in the heartland, I would rather be on the golf course with my son listening to the game than in front of a TV. |
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But a QB like Bortles could flourish under Reids offense.... |
If you can't get one of the guys you see as best or 2nd best option at QB, I'm moving back and loading up on picks for next year.
I'd also be okay with getting Rivers as a stop gap for 2-3 years if you drafted a guy who needed a red shirt. |
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Sure got quiet around here now that the ballwashers are gone...
Bring back Clay? LOL! |
Reid gets the most out of a qb he can. He's not taking Alex smith to Aaron rodgers, but he got him to perform at his peak capabilities.
That's not the case anymore, so move on |
Trade Alex for whatever and then do what you must to move up and draft Watson...
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We do need him here, though. |
I voted for DeShaun Watson because he has moxie and all the physical tools I like in a QB. He wins big games.
But in the meantime, I'd keep Foles around and let him be the starter in 2017. Would you trade Alex within the division? If so, San Diego. Other teams who could be interested: Washington (depending on what happens with Cousins) Cleveland (because Cleveland) Chicago San Francisco (LOL) LA Rams Houston Buffalo New York Jets |
**** trying to trade him. Cut his stupid ass.
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I'm fine with that too. Time to move on.
I mean, we've been treating the same disease with the same medicine and getting the same results. I hear the people saying "It's not Alex's fault." Ok, but Alex is the sign of a mentality in the organization, and moving on from him sends the message that nothing but championship contention is acceptable. That message MUST be sent. NOW. The team needs it, the fans demand it, and the results cry out for it. |
Alright, so WHO do you replace Alex with?
Step one: Trade All-Pro QB Alex Smith for a 2nd round pick.
Step two: Use pick to trade up to get a QB in the first round. Step three: Start Nick Foles next year while the rookie learns Andy's system. Step four: Rookie starts in 2018. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I called him a socialist coach because he pretty much pulled EVERYBODY to the middle. If you were a stud, you looked slightly better than Mike Eastwood (don't bother to look this person up, just take my word for it; he was not good). That may be Andy. It's possible he's developed the kind of offensive system that papers over mediocre quarterbacks but would also serve to keep truly great one from excelling. But if we draft one, he'll at least be cheap. If we have a coach that has built a system that can make any old JAG a 90 rated passer, then let's just go with any old JAG, just as long as he's cost controlled. |
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Reid is not some offense genius or QB guru. He's just a coach. I don't think any of our players on offense are living up to their potential. Oline should be better WRs should be better Even the QBs should be better (Foles looked just like Smith when he was in there) Our offensive staff is nothing special. |
I wonder if Cleveland would take a 1st and 3rd this year and a 1st in 2018 along with Alex Smith for the #1 pick? Rams gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 1st and 3rd to move up 15 to 1. 27 is about another 2nd round pick away, so I'm valuing Smith at two 2nd's and a 3rd, which might be too much but its Cleveland and they have a baseball guy running the show.
Retain Foles. Trade Alex to Cleveland. Draft Trubisky and develop on the bench for a year. Madden style deal for the win. |
I don't think it would take that much to get Rivers.
He'd cost a hell of a lot less than Romo. |
SD isn't going to trade Rivers to KC, guaranteed.
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