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SAGA45 01-16-2017 05:15 AM

Bob Sutton should resign...he's wasting his time
 
Age 65...wasting what's left of his life watching countless hours of game film and concocting usually masterful game plans every week that work despite damning hits to the roster via injury....only to have his time and energy wasted on gameday by an inept and oft incompetent offense.

Why keep going? Why spend another second of his time crafting a defense good enough to win a Super Bowl and be burdened by an offense that always implodes at the worst possible moment?

Sutton should walk in to Reid's office...."Andy, I'm done. Thanks for the opportunity. It's been great. The guys...love em to death. But I'm done."

Rasputin 01-16-2017 05:21 AM

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He get's to coach an NFL team I mean why would he just want to quit something so prestigious?

12-4 and your asking him to just quit on Andy Reid?


I mean **** Greg Robinson I think we can agree to that but Bob Sutton has done an admirable job with some of the key injury like DJ and Houston out for most of the season.

Hammock Parties 01-16-2017 05:37 AM

he's probably banging at least 5 different tanner's waitresses right now

life is good

btlook1 01-16-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12690445)
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He get's to coach an NFL team I mean why would he just want to quit something so prestigious?

12-4 and your asking him to just quit on Andy Reid?


I mean **** Greg Robinson I think we can agree to that but Bob Sutton has done an admirable job with some of the key injury like DJ and Houston out for most of the season.

I agree, need to draft an awesome ILB this year and maybe a safety if we don't keep Berry. Who knows if DJ will be back or not?

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-16-2017 07:27 AM

Quit my ass; I'd ride that cHunt gravy train all the way to the assisted living center.

lcarus 01-16-2017 07:27 AM

How he wasn't fired after that Indy playoff loss I'll never understand. Now another playoff gem where he has our star pass rusher back from knee surgery covering Antonio Brown. The guy sucks shit. You never hear about teams trying to hire him in any capacity. Wonder why that is. Oh I know. It's because he's a ****ing idiot.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 07:29 AM

OP is dog ****. Just like the website he was spamming us with every week that nobody cared about

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12690554)
How he wasn't fired after that Indy playoff loss I'll never understand.

Hmmmmm I wonder if it could be because of the multiple injuries to the team?? Do you watch football?

Bugeater 01-16-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690555)
OP is dog ****. Just like the website he was spamming us with every week that nobody cared about

You're ****ing dog shit. Please die.

The Bad Guy 01-16-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12690554)
How he wasn't fired after that Indy playoff loss I'll never understand. Now another playoff gem where he has our star pass rusher back from knee surgery covering Antonio Brown. The guy sucks shit. You never hear about teams trying to hire him in any capacity. Wonder why that is. Oh I know. It's because he's a ****ing idiot.

Because unless they are going to give him a head coaching job, they can't lure him away, genius.

Defense holds a team to 18 and you complain about the D.C.? **** out of here.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12690558)
You're ****ing dog shit. Please die.

Drink your prune juice and go back to your newspaper old man

dannybcaitlyn 01-16-2017 07:35 AM

How bout taking a page out of Gunthers book and send a all out Blitz, with corners jamming the shit out of the receivers at the line of scrimmage for once instead of having Houston chasing their best receiver and sending only four to give Ben all the time he needed.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12690554)
How he wasn't fired after that Indy playoff loss I'll never understand. Now another playoff gem where he has our star pass rusher back from knee surgery covering Antonio Brown. The guy sucks shit. You never hear about teams trying to hire him in any capacity. Wonder why that is. Oh I know. It's because he's a ****ing idiot.

They held the Steelers to 0 TDs. Less than 20 pts on FGs. In the playoffs. At home.

You telling me you had Super Bowl aspirations for a team that cannot score 3 TDs? A team that takes 7 minutes to score when they're down by 8 pts in the 4th?

As far as the Indy playoff from 3 years ago...Reid could have used that 7 minute offense THEN. Fat Andy doesn't seem to understand "situational football".

Newsflash : The Defense isn't the problem

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690563)
Drink your prune juice and go back to your newspaper old man

Alex Smith sucks.

MahiMike 01-16-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12690554)
How he wasn't fired after that Indy playoff loss I'll never understand. Now another playoff gem where he has our star pass rusher back from knee surgery covering Antonio Brown. The guy sucks shit. You never hear about teams trying to hire him in any capacity. Wonder why that is. Oh I know. It's because he's a ****ing idiot.

Yeah what was up with that? Let's take our best guy and test out his reconstructed knee by chasing the fastest guy on the field.

Brilliant!

lcarus 01-16-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12690580)
Yeah what was up with that? Let's take our best guy and test out his reconstructed knee by chasing the fastest guy on the field.

Brilliant!

Then again he wasn't getting pressure for shit anyway.

New World Order 01-16-2017 07:41 AM

Defense has little room for error because the offense is so inept.

lcarus 01-16-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12690576)
Alex Smith sucks.

Tyreek Hill must be thinking "holy shit give me a QB worth a **** and I'd be burning these clowns for TDs all day"

ChiefGator 01-16-2017 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12690585)
Then again [Justin Houston] wasn't getting pressure for shit anyway.

Yeah, that might be the key. I was baffled by the number of times he dropped back into coverage though. I would have liked to see him just move up and be the fourth member of the D-Line (DT role) on far more plays. But, maybe Sutton saw that wasn't being effective.

At least we somehow managed to slow the run down after the first half (really after that first quarter or so).

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12690617)
Yeah, that might be the key. I was baffled by the number of times he dropped back into coverage though. I would have liked to see him just move up and be the fourth member of the D-Line (DT role) on far more plays. But, maybe Sutton saw that wasn't being effective.

At least we somehow managed to slow the run down after the first half (really after that first quarter or so).

Houston was being doubled a lot, and Ford couldn't do anything. Ramik didnt even start filling his lanes until the second half, dude is trash.

RunKC 01-16-2017 08:05 AM

He made some stupid **** up's with Houston in coverage, but his defense again came through.

Outside of the Jarvis Williams coverage sack, Chris Jones was the only player up front who got a pressure on Big Ben and it was on the first play of the game.

The defense wasn't the problem last night.

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12690630)
He made some stupid **** up's with Houston in coverage, but his defense again came through.

Outside of the Jarvis Williams coverage sack, Chris Jones was the only player up front who got a pressure on Big Ben and it was on the first play of the game.

The defense wasn't the problem last night.

The first play of the game was a screen, which is why Jones came right in. I don't think dropping Houston back was a bad idea since he was being doubled so much and wasn't getting in.

notorious 01-16-2017 08:41 AM

Rush 4 in the biggest play of the game.


Sutton is a ****ing idiot, and his players aren't worth a ****, either.

SAGA45 01-16-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690555)
OP is dog ****. Just like the website he was spamming us with every week that nobody cared about

This is grand

HolyHat 01-16-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12690706)
Rush 4 in the biggest play of the game.


Sutton is a ****ing idiot, and his players aren't worth a ****, either.

i feel like this hasnt been talked about nearly enough. Why in the ****ing **** are you dropping Houston in coverage on the biggest play of the season? Perhaps blitz your best pass rusher i dont know ?

notorious 01-16-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith (Post 12690784)
i feel like this hasnt been talked about nearly enough. Why in the ****ing **** are you dropping Houston in coverage on the biggest play of the season? Perhaps blitz your best pass rusher i dont know ?


It's insanity. You have a hobbled Rape yet they sat back in coverage most of the night.


Yes, they held the Steelers to 18, but damn, you have to force that last play.

SAGA45 01-16-2017 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12690569)
How bout taking a page out of Gunthers book and send a all out Blitz, with corners jamming the shit out of the receivers at the line of scrimmage for once instead of having Houston chasing their best receiver and sending only four to give Ben all the time he needed.

I agree. And in that instance, Sutton was out coached. However, I feel it was more to do with the rule of the Chiefs CB's not not mirroring specific WRs. This gave Haley the freedom to get the matchup he wanted with Brown.

But still...18 points? 19.4 points per game allowed on the season? Led league in Takeaways (or extra opportunities for the offense to score points)?

A case could be made the Chiefs should've been 15-1 (no way around that Pitt loss and that's on Sutton and the defense)....a case could be made that, defensively, the Chiefs were good enough to be playing the Patriots next weekend.

When you do your job and suppress an offense as volatile and potent as the Steelers only for the other side of the ball to fail......again....and AGAIN....perhaps its time to reevaluate the situation.

Understand....I know he won't resign. The OP is more an expression of my own frustration at what could have been if the Chiefs had an offense capable of.....something.....when it mattered most.

hitchief 01-16-2017 10:18 AM

I think Sutton did a fine job and the D was okay and did enough to win a very close game. Got to remember we've had some significant Dline injuries this year and DJ being out really hurt too.

Man, Ford and Tamba just didn't bring it in this game but then again the Steelers were doing there fair share of holding THAT WAS NOT CALLED.

And Huston must not be anywhere near 100% or he has just fallen off the deep end. Got to have your stud OLB who makes the huge bucks make a play or two and he didn't even come close.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 10:20 AM

What in the **** is wrong with you people?

Does anybody realize that after losing DJ we were practically playing a safety at LB for the month of December? We lost 2 starting DL, two starting ILB (one being a pro bowler), and we had a starting #2 CB who was picked up off the trash pile in midseason throughout the season. This is after an offseason where Dorsey shorthanded Sutton by not filling obvious gaps through free agency, while Andy Reid continued to stack his offense with weapons.

The month of December was a limp for the defense. We were getting gashed in the running game. I thought we'd give up 30 points to Pittsburgh and I wouldn't have blamed us.

Good lord, people. Sutton didn't coach a perfect game. But he had an effective enough performance against an elite offense given what we had. It was more than enough to win. I don't know in what world anyone believed that a defense forced to start Ramik Wilson and Terrance Smith with a bunch of rotational 2nd and 3rd string DEs we were going to have much success against Leveon Bell and the 2nd best pass protecting OL in the NFL.

notorious 01-16-2017 10:20 AM

No situational pass rush when it's needed the most.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12690939)
No situational pass rush when it's needed the most.

It seemed like we were making a ton of compromises to neutralize Bell. Which was overall an effective adjustment. Bell was even gashing us 3rd and longs early in the game. Kudos to Tomlin for having the balls to throw twice on a run out the clock situation. Even on the last play, it looked to me like Houston was shadowing Bell to prevent a dumpoff. That's what happens when you try to stop an elite running game with 2 peewee linebackers. We were more aggressive with the blitz early but Bell was picking us apart.

stumppy 01-16-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 12690442)
Age 65...wasting what's left of his life watching countless hours of game film and concocting usually masterful game plans every week that work despite damning hits to the roster via injury....only to have his time and energy wasted on gameday by an inept and oft incompetent offense.

Why keep going? Why spend another second of his time crafting a defense good enough to win a Super Bowl and be burdened by an offense that always implodes at the worst possible moment?

Sutton should walk in to Reid's office...."Andy, I'm done. Thanks for the opportunity. It's been great. The guys...love em to death. But I'm done."

Are you for real ? Seriously ? Oh Boo Hoo, I have no reason to live because my craft, my lifes work, everything I live for is being waisted. Because that's why I have been a coach all my life....for the ultimate glory of wining a SuperBowl.
Get ****ing real. The guy works for a living, makes some of the top money paid in his profession, and apparently likes his job or else he wouldn't be there.
It's his ****ing job. Not a Life Quest for the betterment of football, humanity and all things good and wonderful.

RunKC 01-16-2017 10:49 AM

"The Killer B's" 0 TD's, 1 turnover.

I would venture to say that there has never been a game where all 3 of those guys played and didn't score a TD until last night

Bewbies 01-16-2017 10:55 AM

Defense gives up 18 to one of the top offenses in football. People call for defensive coordinator to be fired.

Do some of you watch the games?

SAGA45 01-16-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12691021)
"The Killer B's" 0 TD's, 1 turnover.

I would venture to say that there has never been a game where all 3 of those guys played and didn't score a TD until last night

I'd be curious to find that out as well!

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12691043)
Defense gives up 18 to one of the top offenses in football. People call for defensive coordinator to be fired.

Do some of you watch the games?

With 5 of our original starters out with injury and with several guys playing who we literally signed off the scrap pile mid season.

SAGA45 01-16-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12691008)
Are you for real ? Seriously ? Oh Boo Hoo, I have no reason to live because my craft, my lifes work, everything I live for is being waisted. Because that's why I have been a coach all my life....for the ultimate glory of wining a SuperBowl.
Get ****ing real. The guy works for a living, makes some of the top money paid in his profession, and apparently likes his job or else he wouldn't be there.
It's his ****ing job. Not a Life Quest for the betterment of football, humanity and all things good and wonderful.

I agree but...

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 12690825)
Understand....I know he won't resign. The OP is more an expression of my own frustration at what could have been if the Chiefs had an offense capable of.....something.....when it mattered most.

That's all. I've no doubt Sutton loves coaching.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith (Post 12690784)
i feel like this hasnt been talked about nearly enough. Why in the ****ing **** are you dropping Houston in coverage on the biggest play of the season? Perhaps blitz your best pass rusher i dont know ?

Houston was shadowing Leveon Bell for the run or a dumpoff. Because Zombo can't do it nearly as well as Houston can. When we're playing with two shitty ILBs, your best OLB has to help them do their job. Let's not forget that if DJ was healthy, that play would have looked a lot different. All game, actually.

We have to stop acting like this was an obvious downfield passing situation. It was 3rd and 3. Antonio Brown wasn't our biggest worry on that play. Leveon Bell was. Have to give credit to Tomlin for 2 ballsy calls to throw the ball in a run out the clock situation.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-16-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12690586)
Defense has little room for error because the offense is so inept.

This.

And mother**** these whiny-assed bitches who believe the defense and special teams have an obligation to put points on the board in an effort to help out that sorry-assed offense too!
No D-Coord calls a perfect game and when you're missing your pro bowl ILB while trying to put the brakes on one of the better running games in the league, it's a ****ing miracle that they managed to keep them from scoring a single ****ing TD.

Sutton DID his ****ing job.

The fat piece of shit with the clipboard and his hand-picked "franchise QB" are the guilty party that barely know their dick from a stick. What a ****ing embarrassment that offense is.

notorious 01-16-2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12692304)
This.

And mother**** these whiny-assed bitches who believe the defense and special teams have an obligation to put points on the board in an effort to help out that sorry-assed offense too!
No D-Coord calls a perfect game and when you're missing your pro bowl ILB while trying to put the brakes on one of the better running games in the league, it's a ****ing miracle that they managed to keep them from scoring a single ****ing TD.

Sutton DID his ****ing job.

The fat piece of shit with the clipboard and his hand-picked "franchise QB" are the guilty party that barely know their dick from a stick. What a ****ing embarrassment that offense is.

We have known this all season.

We have just adapted to expect the defense to make big plays.

Bewbies 01-16-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691069)
With 5 of our original starters out with injury and with several guys playing who we literally signed off the scrap pile mid season.

Not good enough.

Until we're the 85 Bears on defense it's impossible for the offense to be at fault.

Bugeater 01-16-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12692311)
We have known this all season.

We have just adapted to expect the defense to make big plays.

No, there were some that were questioning the sustainability of that very thing, and they were summarily discounted. I'm really tempted to bump the thread.


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