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C3HIEF3S 01-05-2017 05:22 PM

Need the help and advice from some of the most responsible people I know.
 
Hello CP, I come before you to seek a solution of a dilemma that I am currently in regarding a work situation.

As many of you know and as you can probably tell, I attend KU. There, I do some marketing intern work with their AD as I did with my past school Eastern Illinois University. Working in sports, as I have read, is something that you need to break into at base level and then climb the mountain from there. I enjoy the work, and in December made a connection with a woman who works for a certain professional sports team within the area who was helping with some work for KU. Let's just say working for this sports organization would be a dream job for me, and also one that I would say would be a huge accomplishment for myself.

I made conversation with this particular woman for a good while during one of the KU MBB games and by the end of the work day she told me about an open marketing intern position for the upcoming season with this sports team and took my name down. I went home that night, updated my resume, and had the application sent in by the end of the night.

Fast forward to yesterday, about a month later, I received an email from another lady within this certain sports organization asking to come in for an in-person interview. So I think to myself, holy ****ing shit..
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(credit to Chiefspants for the gif idea)

The only problem is that the interview timeslots that I am supposed to choose from are on January 10th and 11th. But with my luck right now, I am at home in Illinois for winter break for another week and a half. Not scheduled to fly back to KC until Saturday, the 14th.

I began to type out an email asking to reschedule for a time after the 14th. Then I became conflicted in that this is an application for an internship, which has no obligation over quite literally anything in the grand scheme of things. Which also, this sports organization runs on their own time and not to that of any colleges or follow the guidelines of any winter breaks. Therefore, wouldn't it be my responsibility to be present on their dates? I am sure there are many applicants, or I would think so, so I believe it would be just as easy for them to cross my name off of a list and turn to an applicant that will be in the area on the date.

So do I ask to possibly reschedule? Do you guys think that they would understand that most of the people working in this position are around college-age which means they may be away? Or do you believe that I should not bother emailing and just reschedule my flight on short notice (on extra cost)?

All advice is welcome,

C3

eDave 01-05-2017 05:26 PM

Thinking like a Hiring Manager, I would move on from you. I'm already wondering what else you will blow off.

If you want the internship (and I know you do), you see them when they want to see you. This is more important than winter break and you will regret it.

raybec 4 01-05-2017 05:26 PM

Show up when they need you. It sends a bad vibe to start the relationship saying you'd rather hang around with your homies than attend even the first step of the process.

Pointer19 01-05-2017 05:29 PM

I agree with Dave. It sucks to cough up some of your break, but a few days in the grand scheme of things is hardly anything if it ends up getting you a lifelong dream.

ScareCrowe 01-05-2017 05:29 PM

If it were me & I really wanted the internship I'd just reschedule. They're probably planning on interviewing only those days & I would really be surprised if they'd make a special appointment for you 3 days after they were planning on being done. Especially if it's a pretty sought after internship.

gblowfish 01-05-2017 05:31 PM

The way to get the job you want is to work harder at it than anybody else. It's really that simple.

temper11 01-05-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12662396)
Thinking like a Hiring Manager, I would move on from you. If you want the internship, you see them when they want to see you.

If you want it, go home early and eat the cost of the changed ticket. You may or may not get it, but if you reschedule and don't get it, you'll kick yourself for the rest of your life not knowing if you f-d your own damn self.

Good luck.

displacedinMN 01-05-2017 05:34 PM

Go to the interview at the time. In today's world-take advantage of when you can-otherwise there is someone to take it for you.
If it is a money issue, maybe someone can help you out.

TambaBerry 01-05-2017 05:36 PM

you already know the answer before you asked it here, which is why you didn't end up emailing her to reschedule. Suck it up, go in there and also it might be good to mention that you were glad to find an earlier flight back to be able to make it to this interview. It would show that you really wanted it.

eDave 01-05-2017 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12662419)
you already know the answer before you asked it here, which is why you didn't end up emailing her to reschedule. Suck it up, go in there and also it might be good to mention that you were glad to find an earlier flight back to be able to make it to this interview. It would show that you really wanted it.

EXCELLENT point.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-05-2017 05:42 PM

Tell them you need to reschedule because you heard it might snow and anyway Tuesdays are set aside for swine masturbation.

ScareCrowe 01-05-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12662419)
you already know the answer before you asked it here, which is why you didn't end up emailing her to reschedule. Suck it up, go in there and also it might be good to mention that you were glad to find an earlier flight back to be able to make it to this interview. It would show that you really wanted it.

This, plus as an added bonus there's always a small chance that they will say "Oh well we can do it on the 15th" granted I wouldn't hold my breath, but it's a possibility. Plus as the quoted poster said it lets them know you really want it bad enough to reschedule a flight on your own dime.

King_Chief_Fan 01-05-2017 05:54 PM

I retired as Global Director of Human Resources for the company Supply Chain Org of the company.
I directed my org to work with the interns schedule as school and time to visit family is important. Especially if the candidate is highly qualified. Companies should be flexible in this situation. All that being said....I know nothing about sports industry and how they operate.

C3HIEF3S 01-05-2017 06:21 PM

Venturing on the safe side and flying back next Tuesday. Thanks for the advice everyone!

lewdog 01-05-2017 06:22 PM

Agreed with what's been said.

If it's a field where you are sorely needed, you could probably reschedule. But in an industry where getting your foot in the door is huge, don't take a chance.

Nice going kid.

chefs fan in omaha 01-05-2017 06:26 PM

Man up, they don't need you. They probably have a hundred people like you applying for the position. If you want the job be there on their time. If you ask to reschedule, they will assume you are too busy for them.
They don't owe you squat

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-05-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12662475)
Agreed with what's been said.

If it's a field where you are sorely needed, you could probably reschedule. But in an industry where getting your foot in the door is huge, don't take a chance.

Nice going kid.


Thanks !

SAUTO 01-05-2017 06:33 PM

You made the right decision.

YayMike 01-05-2017 06:49 PM

Great decision. The other thing a lot of companies are doing is virtual interviews. You could have asked if that was an option.

ping2000 01-05-2017 06:52 PM

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Marcellus 01-05-2017 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12662472)
Venturing on the safe side and flying back next Tuesday. Thanks for the advice everyone!

If you have a chance to mention you were so excited at the opportunity you cut your trip home short for the interview, it wouldnt hurt.

NWTF 01-05-2017 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12662472)
Venturing on the safe side and flying back next Tuesday. Thanks for the advice everyone!

Good call. Thats what I wouldve done.

Chiefspants 01-05-2017 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12662419)
also it might be good to mention that you were glad to find an earlier flight back to be able to make it to this interview. It would show that you really wanted it.

This is a fantastic idea.

I'm thrilled about this opportunity for you, C3. You're going to knock em' dead this week.

hometeam 01-05-2017 07:53 PM

You hold no cards, have no power, if you want the job, show up on time.

Prison Bitch 01-05-2017 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12662396)
Thinking like a Hiring Manager, I would move on from you. I'm already wondering what else you will blow off.

If you want the internship (and I know you do), you see them when they want to see you. This is more important than winter break and you will regret it.

Man, I totally disagree.

Inspector 01-05-2017 08:50 PM

I hired a few back before I retired, but it was a huge corporation that many wanted to work for.

I would have just moved on from anyone wanting to reschedule. Always had plenty of choices.

You made the right decision.

Good luck.

cosmo20002 01-05-2017 09:04 PM

You can't go wrong getting your ass to the interview when they want you there.
However, they are hiring college students for an internship. They should ****ing know that college students are often out of town during winter break, even though some might be within driving distance.
Seems like kind of a dick move by them to not consider (or not care) about this kind of stuff.

Ken Bone 01-05-2017 09:05 PM

Good luck op, I hope you get the position that you're seeking.

With that being said... Walk Chalk!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2017 09:11 PM

I wouldn't hire you, if you asked to reschedule in this situation

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2017 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12662626)
You hold no cards, have no power, if you want the job, show up on time.

That's how i see it. He hasn't built a rep to do something like that.

Chiefspants 01-05-2017 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12662780)
You can't go wrong getting your ass to the interview when they want you there.
However, they are hiring college students for an internship. They should ****ing know that college students are often out of town during winter break, even though some might be within driving distance.
Seems like kind of a dick move by them to not consider (or not care) about this kind of stuff.

This is a massive organization.

I wouldn't be surprised if they expected applicants to work with their timeline as a way to "cull the herd".

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2017 09:35 PM

If you're a "big deal", inform them of the situation. They'll most likely accommodate your travel.

If this is your only shot and you're not that desirable, take a dog sled if necessary.

Just a little insight: No job is the "perfect" job. No job is as it seems, especially an internship.

If you land the gig, always keep a smile on your face, even though secretly, you hope everyone around you dies in fire while being engulfed by a sinkhole.

Good luck!

Miles 01-05-2017 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12662838)
This is a massive organization.

I wouldn't be surprised if they expected applicants to work with their timeline as a way to "cull the herd".

Or they just guessed like I would that the 11th is safely late enough everyone would be back by then.

Miles 01-05-2017 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12662872)
If you're a "big deal", inform them of the situation. They'll most likely accommodate your travel.

If this is your only shot and you're not that desirable, take a dog sled if necessary.

Just a little insight: No job is the "perfect" job. No job is as it seems, especially an internship.

If you land the gig, always keep a smile on your face, even though secretly, you hope everyone around you dies in fire while being engulfed by a sinkhole.

Good luck!

Good advice. Also one many seem to forget when interviewing for an internship is to do the legwork to check the internet for info about the company and department/group intervening with.

Iowanian 01-05-2017 11:08 PM

I know when hiring I look for people who are willing to accommodate our schedule, demonstrate that they are serious. It might require driving a couple of hours, or skipping that spin class you like so much.


If you want it, if it's an opportunity you need to sacrifice now to get what you want later. You're making a good choice.

Saccopoo 01-06-2017 12:03 AM

Internships suck.

There is always jobs out there.

You can never get back quality time spent with family.

You can always get a job somewhere.

You know why they call it "work?" Because they have to pay you to do it.

Iowanian 01-06-2017 12:16 AM

Also, if you are taking advice....

When the interview team asks you "do you have any questions for us". I would avoid asking them any of our dear friend sacca's latest hits.

cosmo20002 01-06-2017 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 12662991)
Or they just guessed like I would that the 11th is safely late enough everyone would be back by then.

:rolleyes:
They don't need to guess. There are scheduled dates when classes are in session.
They're hiring college interns. Not scheduling local interviews when students at the area's major university likely aren't on campus just seems like common sense.

They can do whatever they want, obviously, but they are also screwing out-of-town candidates who are flying back to school. Now, he's basically forced to eat the ticket he already paid for (hopefully he's on Southwest) and buy a one-way ticket a few days before flying. That's generally not cheap.
This is for an unpaid internship, not upper-level management.
It's just a shitty way to do things.

UK_Chief 01-06-2017 02:43 AM

PIIHB

Miles 01-06-2017 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12663195)
:rolleyes:
They don't need to guess. There are scheduled dates when classes are in session.
They're hiring college interns. Not scheduling local interviews when students at the area's major university likely aren't on campus just seems like common sense.

They can do whatever they want, obviously, but they are also screwing out-of-town candidates who are flying back to school. Now, he's basically forced to eat the ticket he already paid for (hopefully he's on Southwest) and buy a one-way ticket a few days before flying. That's generally not cheap.
This is for an unpaid internship, not upper-level management.
It's just a shitty way to do things.

It's after everyone is back at work plus over a week so can see how anyone would be oblivious on the scheduling. Nobody in business is thinking about how it might be early for a college student who's school didn't start back the 9th.

Where did he say unpaid?

ChiliConCarnage 01-06-2017 06:51 AM

Good call, C3. I hope you get the gig!

BlackHelicopters 01-06-2017 09:53 AM

Show up when asked.

C3HIEF3S 01-12-2017 02:39 PM

As obvious of a decision as it turned out to be, I am beyond thankful for the advice given to me in this thread. Tuesday night I flew into Kansas City and then got a ride back to Lawrence for the night. Wednesday morning I drove to Kauffman Stadium for an interview that was held in a conference room directly facing Arrowhead, and about 10 minutes ago I got a call that I had been offered the position that I applied for. The position will be helping with on-field pre-game ceremonies, promotions (example: hot dog race), and with events such as Fan Fest. One of my biggest professional goals was to be employed by the Royals at some point in my life, and although this is a small, small role in what goes on with day-to-day operations, it's a big stepping stone for me and I am absolutely thrilled.

My goal for this summer, outside of just work, is to meet at least 15-20 Planeteers throughout the season. If you want to say hello, I would be delighted to have a face-to-face conversation with you and put some real faces to avatars around here. Or, you can tell me to die in a Antifreeze-fueled AIDS tree fire, that's absolutely fine too! So once again, thanks to everyone for the replies!

ptlyon 01-12-2017 02:42 PM

Good job man! Congrats! :clap:

Dartgod 01-12-2017 02:43 PM

Congrats, man. That's awesome.

Ken Bone 01-12-2017 02:46 PM

That's so cool.. Congratulations and good luck!!!

temper11 01-12-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 12677769)
As obvious of a decision as it turned out to be, I am beyond thankful for the advice given to me in this thread. Tuesday night I flew into Kansas City and then got a ride back to Lawrence for the night. Wednesday morning I drove to Kauffman Stadium for an interview that was held in a conference room directly facing Arrowhead, and about 10 minutes ago I got a call that I had been offered the position that I applied for. The position will be helping with on-field pre-game ceremonies, promotions (example: hot dog race), and with events such as Fan Fest. One of my biggest professional goals was to be employed by the Royals at some point in my life, and although this is a small, small role in what goes on with day-to-day operations, it's a big stepping stone for me and I am absolutely thrilled.

My goal for this summer, outside of just work, is to meet at least 15-20 Planeteers throughout the season. If you want to say hello, I would be delighted to have a face-to-face conversation with you and put some real faces to avatars around here. Or, you can tell me to die in a Antifreeze-fueled AIDS tree fire, that's absolutely fine too! So once again, thanks to everyone for the replies!

That's Awesome Dude! Glad you got it, and you can absolutely work your way into different opportunities from there if you do your job well. When I retire, I keep telling my wife we are going to move to LA and she will work in Disneyland, and I'm gonna work in Dodger Stadium.

That's cool you are checking this off of your bucket list. Good luck C3 and good luck this Sunday! Go Chiefs!

Buehler445 01-12-2017 02:54 PM

Excellent work. However, now we need to discuss the consulting fee:D

Kill it every day man. Destroy whatever task they give you.

Dayze 01-12-2017 02:56 PM

Invite Aquib Talib back to Kauffman under the guise that he'll be receiving a major award. once he arrives, tie him to a refrigerator dolly (or any appliance dolly for that matter), and in the 7th inning stretch, wheel him to home plate where 5 lucky fans get to rifle baseballs at him while standing 5' away. Those who create the most bruises get 5 free hot dogs at the next buck night.

I think that would draw in a lot of revenue.

temper11 01-12-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12677800)
Invite Aquib Talib back to Kauffman under the guise that he'll be receiving a major award. once he arrives, tie him to a refrigerator dolly (or any appliance dolly for that matter), and in the 7th inning stretch, wheel him to home plate where 5 lucky fans get to rifle baseballs at him while standing 5' away. Those who create the most bruises get 5 free hot dogs at the next buck night.

I think that would draw in a lot of revenue.

Damn... Dayze is already gunning for your new job! :)


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