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DenverChief 11-06-2016 04:51 PM

Any RB will do?
 
Some people here have argued in the past that RB has become a plug and play position in the NFL. I'm going to try and find the thread....but after today I'm convinced this team CANNOT sustain winning without Ware/Charles. West is a great change of pace back but our running game was NON-EXISTENT, 13 ATT 39 YDS , (14 of which came at the end of the game) today.

We have to keep Ware healthy and figure out how to get Davis back in the game when Ware/West are out.

In58men 11-06-2016 04:52 PM

I said we should have signed Spiller, we dropped the ball.

Chiefspants 11-06-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534076)

We have to keep Ware healthy and figure out how to get Davis back in the game when Ware/West are out.

Davis is no longer on the team.

DaneMcCloud 11-06-2016 04:54 PM

Nonsense. West led the Chiefs last year in yards from scrimmage.

The Jags have a metric **** ton of talent on defense and the Chiefs were starting an inaccurate intermediate passer and a 2nd string left guard.

West is fine, Davis will likely be cut, again, after Sankey or Reaves are ready to go.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12534085)
Davis is no longer on the team.

Did they cut him right after the game? :spock:


K. Davis 3 ATT 10 YDS

DaneMcCloud 11-06-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12534085)
Davis is no longer on the team.

He's number 34 in your guide

Chiefspants 11-06-2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534093)
Did they cut him right after the game? :spock:


K. Davis 3 ATT 10 YDS

LMAO That's what I get.

I had to follow the game via NFL gamecenter on my phone today. Carry on.

Otter 11-06-2016 04:57 PM

When Knile Davis is out there it's not good. That guy is the equivalent of watching me play tennis or golf. I can do it without looking like a complete idiot but I have no right to be playing with the big boys.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12534092)
Nonsense. West led the Chiefs last year in yards from scrimmage.

The Jags have a metric **** ton of talent on defense and the Chiefs were starting an inaccurate intermediate passer and a 2nd string left guard.

West is fine, Davis will likely be cut, again, after Sankey or Reaves are ready to go.

When used as a Change of Pace back - he is fast and shifty but not an every down back and the run game suffers when he is the only option

jonzie04 11-06-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12534081)
I said we should have signed Spiller, we dropped the ball.

Yes we really dropped the ball by not signing a guy averaging 3 ypc over the last 2 years.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12534081)
I said we should have signed Spiller, we dropped the ball.

That would have been a nice addition.

In58men 11-06-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12534116)
Yes we really dropped the ball by not signing a guy averaging 3 ypc over the last 2 years.

He's still a threat unlike all the other guys we brought in.

In58men 11-06-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534119)
That would have been a nice addition.

Yes sir.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12534116)
Yes we really dropped the ball by not signing a guy averaging 3 ypc over the last 2 years.

he hasn't had more than 50 carries in those two years....

DaneMcCloud 11-06-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534113)
When used as a Change of Pace back - he is fast and shifty but not an every down back and the run game suffers when he is the only option

Not true

DaneMcCloud 11-06-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534119)
That would have been a nice addition.

Spiller is garbage

Frosty 11-06-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534130)
he hasn't had more than 50 carries in those two years....

Spiller was awful with Seattle. He looked done.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12534109)
When Knile Davis is out there it's not good. That guy is the equivalent of watching me play tennis or golf. I can do it without looking like a complete idiot but I have no right to be playing with the big boys.

LMAO I think Davis is decent - my biggest problem with him is that he fumbles at the most inopportune times.

In58men 11-06-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 12534138)
Spiller was awful with Seattle. He looked done.

But Richardson would be better? Not a chance in hell.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 12534138)
Spiller was awful with Seattle. He looked done.

He carried the ball exactly 3 times with Seattle

In58men 11-06-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12534136)
Spiller is garbage

What are you expecting from any of the RBs we brought in?

Spiller has way more upside than those other guys. It's not like he would be here forever.

carcosa 11-06-2016 05:05 PM

Ware >>>>>>>>> West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis

Frosty 11-06-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534148)
He carried the ball exactly 3 times with Seattle

I'm not talking stats. I watched the games. They tried using him as a third down back. He couldn't block and he couldn't get open in the underneath routes. He just looked really slow.

jonzie04 11-06-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12534127)
He's still a threat unlike all the other guys we brought in.

True I will give you that, he does have home run speed... but what good is home run speed when you strike out 99 times out of 100?

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534130)
he hasn't had more than 50 carries in those two years....

So he sucked and he couldn't stay healthy?

Ware only has a concussion, we only need a guy to come in and carry the ball a few times for a few weeks and then said guy is likely to be cut.

trd84 11-06-2016 05:07 PM

there were no holes today

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12534170)
True I will give you that, he does have home run speed... but what good is home run speed when you strike out 99 times out of 100?



.

Ask Bo Jackson

Frosty 11-06-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by trd84 (Post 12534173)
there were no holes today

Here's the real problem.

In58men 11-06-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trd84 (Post 12534173)
there were no holes today

Ehinger being out didn't help.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12534170)
True I will give you that, he does have home run speed... but what good is home run speed when you strike out 99 times out of 100?



So he sucked and he couldn't stay healthy?

Ware only has a concussion, we only need a guy to come in and carry the ball a few times for a few weeks and then said guy is likely to be cut.

I'm just saying that IF Ware gets hurt again (Concussion/Turf Toe whatever) late in the season I'm not confident West as the sole RB can get us a W. We got really lucky today. This is not a good one dimensional team

trd84 11-06-2016 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534142)
LMAO I think Davis is decent - my biggest problem with him is that he fumbles at the most inopportune times.

yeah. if not for his fumbling problems ware and west wouldn't have passed last year

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trd84 (Post 12534173)
there were no holes today

and thats the difference Ware can make holes.


on a side note - how come Reid doesn't use the sausage for some running plays? I swear we have in the past...

jonzie04 11-06-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534183)
I'm just saying that IF Ware gets hurt again (Concussion/Turf Toe whatever) late in the season I'm not confident West as the sole RB can get us a W. We got really lucky today. This is not a good one dimensional team

Yeah I do agree with you. I agree with your assessment of west, and that he's mainly a change of pace guy (though the run blocking was Crap today) And I also agree with your plug and play take. I Just don't think spiller is that guy. Here's to hoping ware stays healthy :toast: . His injury was pretty minor and everything should be ok.

Mr. Laz 11-06-2016 05:16 PM

West wasn't good today
Davis was his normal "meh" self

neither as are good as Charles or Ware

I think i prefer Reaves over West in this offense as well.

T-post Tom 11-06-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12534219)
West wasn't good today
Davis was his normal "meh" self

neither as are good as Charles or Ware

I think i prefer Reaves over West in this offense as well.

Agree. Going forward, Chiefs will need Ware to be healthy for success against good teams.

DenverChief 11-06-2016 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12534219)
West wasn't good today
Davis was his normal "meh" self

neither as are good as Charles or Ware

I think i prefer Reaves over West in this offense as well.

I would love to see Reaves on the active roster. But with a healthy Charles/Ware/West that's a pipe dream.

BTW any word on whether Charles will be eligible to play come playoffs assuming he is healthy?

Mr. Laz 11-06-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534271)
I would love to see Reaves on the active roster. But with a healthy Charles/Ware/West that's a pipe dream.

BTW any word on whether Charles will be eligible to play come playoffs assuming he is healthy?

I believe he is

O.city 11-06-2016 05:32 PM

West looks hurt. Just slow.

T-post Tom 11-06-2016 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534195)
and thats the difference Ware can make holes.


on a side note - how come Reid doesn't use the sausage for some running plays? I swear we have in the past...

Memories of T Rich and Kimble Anders............

Reerun_KC 11-06-2016 05:35 PM

Lack of threat of Alex under center.

jettio 11-06-2016 05:38 PM

Jax defense looked stout.

That team has some players. Probably should win that division if they did not turn the ball over or make other mistakes.

KChiefs1 11-06-2016 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12534085)
Davis is no longer on the team.



They already cut him?




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KChiefs1 11-06-2016 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12534296)
West looks hurt. Just slow.



Something is wrong with him.




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Chiefspants 11-06-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12534526)
They already cut him?




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Traded back to the Packers.

rtmike 11-06-2016 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12534563)
Traded back to the Packers.

Even shorter time in GB this go around, it was a sign & cut deal.

So I read the Chiefs again resigned him just a few minutes ago & traded him to Tampa for a conditional 7th....

JohnnyHammersticks 11-06-2016 06:39 PM

We need some running plays with Tyreek Hill lined up in the backfield. I'd love to see a quick toss to him in a short yardage situation where he can get outside.

Easy 6 11-06-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12534296)
West looks hurt. Just slow.

I am completely unimpressed with West this year, he isnt a guy capable of carrying the load, period... one lineman being out and Foles in shouldnt be a deciding factor

Whatever his 40 time is, it doesnt translate on the field and his vision is no great shakes either... this quickly went from our deepest position by far, to a canker sore in a hurry

It isnt hyperventilating to say... I'm worried

srvy 11-06-2016 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12534195)
and thats the difference Ware can make holes.


on a side note - how come Reid doesn't use the sausage for some running plays? I swear we have in the past...

If my memory serves me sausage is a bit of a fumbler. I know his number has been call a few time on a pass and he has dropped it. Over the years of banging with the big boys the hands get undependable as a fullback.

Demonpenz 11-06-2016 06:58 PM

Any average RB will do. But you can't have complete shit at the position

Jewish Rabbi 11-06-2016 07:45 PM

I think we're overlooking what Dontari Poe adds to this backfield.

DaneMcCloud 11-06-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12534603)
I am completely unimpressed with West this year, he isnt a guy capable of carrying the load, period... one lineman being out and Foles in shouldnt be a deciding factor

Whatever his 40 time is, it doesnt translate on the field and his vision is no great shakes either... this quickly went from our deepest position by far, to a canker sore in a hurry

It isnt hyperventilating to say... I'm worried

This is just silly

Deberg_1990 11-06-2016 07:51 PM

I want to see Bishop Sankey


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