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kccrow 10-16-2016 02:19 PM

Chat
 
What is wrong with it? Nothing loads up.

displacedinMN 10-16-2016 02:19 PM

It is having issues. It is a CP thing.

kccrow 10-16-2016 02:36 PM

Well shit.... so hard to follow the GDT with 900 people posting to it... ****ity **** ****.

DaFace 10-16-2016 02:38 PM

Huh, didn't realize it was down. I can look into it, but it won't be today.

threebag 10-16-2016 03:11 PM

Bring back the is Charles done thread that was deleted.

stumppy 10-16-2016 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12486331)
Huh, didn't realize it was down. I can look into it, but it won't be today.

What ???? How bout you just do your job around here and earn your check.

DaFace 10-16-2016 05:18 PM

Should be fixed now. Somehow the main index file got deleted, but a simple re-upload took care of it.

DaFace 10-20-2016 04:08 PM

So...turns out there's a security issue with flashchat, which really sucks because we don't have a lot of other easy options. Until we figure it out, though, chat may unfortunately not be an option during games.

JoeyChuckles 10-20-2016 07:13 PM

I will miss you chat forever and ever.

DaFace 10-20-2016 07:18 PM

One option is to just use some random free chat software out there in the world. We couldn't link it to vBulletin to pull in usernames and such, but it should work. Here's one I'm playing with.

http://www.chatzy.com/83514677519792

I suppose one advantage of that is that it should work fine regardless of the CP server.

kccrow 10-20-2016 07:55 PM

Thanks for your work DaFace, no matter the outcome.

What is the current setup? 123 Flash?

What about AJAX shoutbox? MGC Chatbox?

DaFace 10-20-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12496886)
Thanks for your work DaFace, no matter the outcome.

What is the current setup? AJAX shoutbox?

Na, it's a shitty old flash-based chat room (appropriately called "FlashChat"). It's nice because it's one of the few free options that integrate directly with vBulletin, but it hasn't been updated since 2010 and has a known exploit out there in the world. We could technically downgrade back to an old version, but it's probably not worth it.

Really, for what we use it for, I'd bet we'd be fine just using Chatzy (or similar). It's pretty basic (not easy to "skin" to make it look Chiefs-themed). Rooms expire after 14 days of inactivity, but that would get us through the season just fine, and it's easy to re-create a room any time. Only downside would be the inability to keep banned users out or prevent fakes (like me logging in as GoChiefs for example). But...meh. I doubt that'd be a deal killer.

kccrow 10-20-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12496892)
Na, it's a shitty old flash-based chat room (appropriately called "FlashChat"). It's nice because it's one of the few free options that integrate directly with vBulletin, but it hasn't been updated since 2010 and has a known exploit out there in the world. We could technically downgrade back to an old version, but it's probably not worth it.

Really, for what we use it for, I'd bet we'd be fine just using Chatzy (or similar). It's pretty basic (not easy to "skin" to make it look Chiefs-themed). Rooms expire after 14 days of inactivity, but that would get us through the season just fine, and it's easy to re-create a room any time. Only downside would be the inability to keep banned users out or prevent fakes (like me logging in as GoChiefs for example). But...meh. I doubt that'd be a deal killer.

I looked at it, seems like a relatively simple solution to limp around with for a while.

I had edited my other post while you were responding, but I was asking about AJAX based vB chat mods like Shoutbox and MGC Chatbox as potential long-term solutions. Would they offer better security? Or, are they limited by the relative insecurity of JS?

DaFace 10-20-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12496922)
I looked at it, seems like a relatively simple solution to limp around with for a while.

I had edited my other post while you were responding, but I was asking about AJAX based vB chat mods like Shoutbox and MGC Chatbox as potential long-term solutions. Would they offer better security? Or, are they limited by the relative insecurity of JS?

I haven't looked into them much, but the usual issue is that we're running on vBulletin 3.8, and most of the more modern mods require vB 4.0 or later. If you see a 3.8 board out there running a good chat system, definitely post a link so we can check it out.

DaFace 10-20-2016 08:17 PM

I went ahead and made the call that we'll temporarily switch to Chatzy. The link in the header will now take you there.

kccrow 10-20-2016 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12496935)
I haven't looked into them much, but the usual issue is that we're running on vBulletin 3.8, and most of the more modern mods require vB 4.0 or later. If you see a 3.8 board out there running a good chat system, definitely post a link so we can check it out.

Chatbox is compatable back to 3.6. Here's a link to the post on vBulletin about it: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168992

DaFace 10-20-2016 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12496950)
Chatbox is compatable back to 3.6. Here's a link to the post on vBulletin about it: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168992

Do you know of an active installation/demo of it somewhere? The one in the linked post doesn't work.

kccrow 10-20-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12496966)
Do you know of an active installation/demo of it somewhere? The one in the linked post doesn't work.

Here's one, I'll keep looking though...

http://h-townmadness.com/forum/index.php

DaFace 10-20-2016 08:45 PM

I'll play with it. We'll see how it works.

DaFace 10-20-2016 09:15 PM

I've got MGC installed if anyone cares to try it out.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/mgc_c...o=view_chatbox

Let me know if it doesn't work - there are a ton of permissions to set.

DaFace 10-20-2016 09:53 PM

I've played with MGC for a bit, and I like it well enough to give it a try. The Chat link at the top has now been updated to point to it.

Let me know what thoughts you guys have on it. It has quite a few settings that I can tweak, so if something seems really annoying, let me know.

kccrow 10-21-2016 04:06 AM

Seems like it works well enough for what we need. I kind of like that you can see chat as your browsing the forums, going in and out of threads.

Would be cool if it could be active on the pages within a thread too. Could be in GDT and Chat at the same time. :D That might be awkward and resource intensive, I dunno.

Thanks for the work DaFace, appreciated.

DaFace 10-21-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12497342)
Seems like it works well enough for what we need. I kind of like that you can see chat as your browsing the forums, going in and out of threads.

Would be cool if it could be active on the pages within a thread too. Could be in GDT and Chat at the same time. :D That might be awkward and resource intensive, I dunno.

Thanks for the work DaFace, appreciated.

Yeah, we technically could have it on every page, but I'm not sure how that would impact server loads during a game when everyone is refreshing like crazy. We'll see how it goes this weekend (and see if anyone ever uses it more casually), then decide what to do with it.

TimBone 10-21-2016 11:19 AM

Thanks for the work, DaFace. I look forward to getting back in the chat this weekend. That Raiders game would have been a lot more fun with chat working.

stumppy 10-30-2016 07:52 AM

Is the Chat going to be down today ?

DaFace 10-30-2016 07:53 AM

No.

stumppy 10-30-2016 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12513357)
No.

Cool. Wasn't sure if the recent troubles had affected it too.

DaFace 10-30-2016 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12513369)
Cool. Wasn't sure if the recent troubles had affected it too.

For some reason, the thread got moved to DC, but apparently (from essentially one text message from Kyle) we were hacked.

Slowdowns during the game aren't unusual, but the complete lockups we had this past week are.

cabletech94 10-30-2016 10:00 AM

thanks DaFace. you are DaBest!

Rausch 10-30-2016 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 12486068)
It is a CP thing.

10 years ago that shirt might have helped you get laid...

CajunChief 11-06-2016 10:48 AM

I can read what everyone else is saying but there is no place for me to type in anything. I have tried several browsers and shut off my ad blocker and still nothing.

Reerun_KC 11-06-2016 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChief (Post 12531101)
I can read what everyone else is saying but there is no place for me to type in anything. I have tried several browsers and shut off my ad blocker and still nothing.

Your account isn't setup right

CajunChief 11-06-2016 11:07 AM

What do I need to change?

JoeyChuckles 11-06-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CajunChief (Post 12531145)
What do I need to change?

Is your browser zoomed in at all? The box to type should be at the bottom of the page, below all the other messages but before the ad banner at the bottom.

JoeyChuckles 11-06-2016 11:35 AM

While I'm here, my suggestions to improve chat:

1) Chat should auto-clear every night, or every so often
or
2) Put a date stamp on chat messages. Entering this morning, it's impossible to tell what day previous messages were sent.

CajunChief 11-06-2016 11:35 AM

Not zoomed in. just shows the messages and the ads at the bottom of the page.

Wonder if it is because I only have a few posts to the board?

DaFace 11-06-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChief (Post 12531200)
Not zoomed in. just shows the messages and the ads at the bottom of the page.

Wonder if it is because I only have a few posts to the board?

Yeah, "new users" are restricted from posting. You should be good to go now, though.

DaFace 11-06-2016 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 12531199)
While I'm here, my suggestions to improve chat:

1) Chat should auto-clear every night, or every so often
or
2) Put a date stamp on chat messages. Entering this morning, it's impossible to tell what day previous messages were sent.

1. Not supported in the software.
2. Technically we could, but every single message would have a date on it, which is a ton of clutter for what is a relatively small issue.


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