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chiefscafan 08-14-2016 08:25 AM

Ok these were my impressions of the game and how I think we look so far
 
I haven't posted in a while but I just wanted to tell you what I saw yesterday. I know there is work to be done but this is what I think so far.


I rewatched the game this morning. Our Offensive line is gonna be amazing the biggest addition as I said when we signed him was the RT Schwartz. Alex and Foles had more time to go through the progressions not running around for their lives.


The kicker Santos is coming into his own. He kicked a 58 yarder with ease. Him with colquit and hill and DAT or Knile makes our special teams dangerous.

I think the O is gonna be light years better our RB depth is crazy good. The WRs are way better. It's not gonna be just kelcie, Charles, and Macklin anymore. This O has many weapons and can attack you many ways.

The addition of Foles was very smart . Unfortunately the young Qbs aren't ready yet it will be interesting to see which one they trade or cut and which ones they keep.

Yes the D is gonna struggle at first with the young CBs but they are all talented and by mid season this D is gonna be scary. The addition of Chris Jones is looking like we got the steal of the draft. In fact this entire draft looks like one of Dorsey's best. Especially as I said at the time like the additions of the CB DJ White and LB Dadi Nicholas both raw but extremely talented.

This is the most complete Chiefs team I've seen in years. Yes there are questions right now what team doesn't have them at this time of the year. However look at Dorsey he's showing to be a great GM. Remember he took over a 2-14 team that was gutted with no real depth and an inept O. To turn around with three winning seasons and two playoff appearances. Even ending the playoff winning draught.

I know I'll probably be blasted for these comments saying I have rose colored glasses on but I have faith in this team and with the right breaks this is a championship caliber team. How many times have really been able to say that?

SAUTO 08-14-2016 08:52 AM

I thought brakes were to slow you down, not propel you to a championship...

Trivers 08-14-2016 09:23 AM

nicely written.

DLine is going to be amazing.

Dante84 08-14-2016 09:38 AM

If we can run on the field as well as your sentences do on the page, we're going to have a hell of a season!

chiefscafan 08-14-2016 10:06 AM

Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

I love the depth of the D line we need them to get the push at least while Houston is out.

I think next game we should let Dadi get some reps with first team D and see how he does.

The disappointment is how Dee ford can look great some games and disappear others. I hope this is just one game but I thought he'd be further along than this by now.

chiefscafan 08-14-2016 10:07 AM

See that's what I mean by blasting my sentence structure or my spelling. You are so funny thanks for your two cents.

ThaVirus 08-14-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367827)
See that's what I mean by blasting my sentence structure or my spelling. You are so funny thanks for your two cents.


Your grammar and spelling were passable. You also broke it up into separate paragraphs making it very readable. It wasn't a bad post.

You just need thicker skin. People here will call you a dumbass if they disagree. I'm not sure that'll ever change here so you'll just have to deal with it.

Meatloaf 08-14-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12367834)
Your grammar and spelling were passable. You also broke it up into separate paragraphs making it very readable. It wasn't a bad post.

You just need thicker skin. People here will call you a dumbass if they disagree. I'm not sure that'll ever change here so you'll just have to deal with it.

Virus is right. Virtually any/all posts will be met with derision by someone in the CP community. In which case, you will be deemed a dumb ****, or worse. Just sorta goes with the territory, so don't let it bother you. After a while, it'll be second nature and you'll come to understand that pretty much, we're all dumb ****s.

Keep posting as your opinions are noted and appreciated.....even if your are a dumb ****!

(See, that didn't hurt so bad, did it?)

SAUTO 08-14-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367827)
See that's what I mean by blasting my sentence structure or my spelling. You are so funny thanks for your two cents.

Well Jesus Christ dude...

My eleven year old could have typed that out better.

SAUTO 08-14-2016 10:38 AM

I mean shit you spelled kelce and maclin wrong. Two of our better known players.

You don't expect to catch shit for that on a ****ing chiefs fan board?

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 10:39 AM

It's a bit premature to be over-optimistic. But I think they'll be a good team.

Losing Houston plus potentially huge downgrades in the secondary could be rough. I think we forget how our defense got picked apart the first 4 games without Sean Smith. So that coupled with not having Houston scares the shit out of me.

So knowing our defense will likely take a step back, this team will need to be more balanced. To do that, we need to see Alex Smith the leader, which we saw more toward the end of the season. Not Alex Smith the game manager. I have a feeling we'll need to win a lot more games in the 20s and 30s than we're used to.

milkman 08-14-2016 10:41 AM

This O-Line is going to give Smith and the RBs the opportunity to make plays.

Lonewolf Ed 08-14-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367827)
See that's what I mean by blasting my sentence structure or my spelling. You are so funny thanks for your two cents.

If you had only had put a comma after see and used a semi-colon between funny and thanks, you would have blown their minds! :)

I like the depth this team has going into the season, too, and I can't help but have some higher expectations.

mcaj22 08-14-2016 10:45 AM

Macklin

lol

BlackOp 08-14-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367857)
It's a bit premature to be over-optimistic. But I think they'll be a good team.

Losing Houston plus potentially huge downgrades in the secondary could be rough. I think we forget how our defense got picked apart the first 4 games without Sean Smith. So that coupled with not having Houston scares the shit out of me.

Yeah...but KC's O-line was total garbage for the first 6 weeks...Smith was getting killed. Luckily KC dumped that trash on Denver...Stephenson, addition by subtraction.

That played a part in the GB/Bengals games too...

Peters was starting his first games in the NFL, Berry was coming back from cancer...Poe had back surgery and Gaines got hurt.

DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367857)
I think we forget how our defense got picked apart the first 4 games without Sean Smith.

Complete fallacy. First off, Smith only missed three games. The defense was weak against the Bengals and the Bears with Sean Smith.

The Texans and their two QB's did not "pick apart" the Chiefs defense.

Denver was down by 7 points with 40 seconds left, scoring only 17 to that point.

And Aaron Rodgers has been known to "pick apart" NFL defenses for nearly a decade.

In58men 08-14-2016 10:52 AM

I'm not trying to be negative, but does Chris Jones seem slow? The guy is a monster don't get me wrong. I'm just hoping he has enough wheels to get to the QB. Is he faster than what I'm assuming?

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12367870)
Yeah...but KC's O-line was total garbage for the first 6 weeks...Smith was getting killed. Luckily KC dumped that trash on Denver...Stephenson, addition by subtraction.

That played a part in the GB/Bengals games too...

Peters was starting his first games in the NFL, Berry was coming back from cancer...Poe had back surgery and Gaines got hurt.

I think the offense has the chance to be a lot better. Alex was more of an attacker the second half of the season. So I'm optimistic. But we'll need much more offense / defense balance than we're used to and hopefully Alex is up to the task.

mcaj22 08-14-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12367876)
I'm not trying to be negative, but does Chris Jones seem slow? The guy is a monster don't get me wrong. I'm just hoping he has enough wheels to get to the QB. Is he faster than what I'm assuming?

he is a big huge mammoth man that can push the pocket. That alone means he did his job as far as I'm concerned. That fact that you want 4.5 closing speed for him to chase the QB down ontop of it blows my mind. That's literally the point of edge rushers, if Jones can push the middle it's the OLBers jobs to actually do their job and finish.

Like wait until Jones with playing Hali and Houston instead of the nonsense bums he's out there with now.

In58men 08-14-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12367883)
he is a big huge mammoth man that can push the pocket. That alone means he did his job as far as I'm concerned. That fact that you want 4.5 closing speed for him to chase the QB down ontop of it blows my mind. That's literally the point of edge rushers, if Jones can push the middle it's the OLBers jobs to actually do their job and finish.

Like wait until Jones with playing Hali and Houston instead of the nonsense bums he's out there with now.

That makes more sense. I guess I was expecting him to blow up the backfield playing with the 2nd & 3rd stringers.

BlackOp 08-14-2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12367888)
That makes more sense. I guess I was expecting him to blow up the backfield playing with the 2nd & 3rd stringers.

He kind of did.....

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12367875)
Complete fallacy. First off, Smith only missed three games. The defense was weak against the Bengals and the Bears with Sean Smith.

The Texans and their two QB's did not "pick apart" the Chiefs defense.

Denver was down by 7 points with 40 seconds left, scoring only 17 to that point.

And Aaron Rodgers has been known to "pick apart" NFL defenses for nearly a decade.

Th was a different team when Sean Smith and Peters lined up opposite each other. When Smith hit his stride, the defense wasn't just good, they were terrific. Scoring defense was excellent and they were exceptional at creating big turnovers. We've seen Sutton's D get flat out picked apart when a QB can consistently attack one CB. And that's with a healthy Houston / Hali.

I feel better this year than I did last without Sean Smith. I like Gaines if he can stay healthy and DJ White looked decent against Seattle. Even still, Hali is a year older, Houston is out, and who knows when Berry comes back. I don't think our D will collapse. But I think we'll need to win a lot more games in our 20s and 30s than we're used to. And I don't think we can depend on game-changing turnovers like we saw year 1 and year 3. The offense probably has to kick it up a notch.

Easy 6 08-14-2016 11:13 AM

Sooo much to be excited about and pleased with, the pros FAR outweighed the cons

The defensive depth on display has even calmed my fears about what happens if Ford continues to look like shit... we can survive his benching

Chieftain58 08-14-2016 11:50 AM

Honestly , .... What scares me is; we have a lot of good players that have potential to be great and some of the players we are going to cut are going to be picked up by other teams and probably come back to haunt us! I just hope when they start slicing and dicing they keep the right ones!

staylor26 08-14-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367907)
Th was a different team when Sean Smith and Peters lined up opposite each other. When Smith hit his stride, the defense wasn't just good, they were terrific. Scoring defense was excellent and they were exceptional at creating big turnovers. We've seen Sutton's D get flat out picked apart when a QB can consistently attack one CB. And that's with a healthy Houston / Hali.

I feel better this year than I did last without Sean Smith. I like Gaines if he can stay healthy and DJ White looked decent against Seattle. Even still, Hali is a year older, Houston is out, and who knows when Berry comes back. I don't think our D will collapse. But I think we'll need to win a lot more games in our 20s and 30s than we're used to. And I don't think we can depend on game-changing turnovers like we saw year 1 and year 3. The offense probably has to kick it up a notch.

Hali, while a year older, is fresh after getting all of TC off. And we do know when Berry will be back. Right before the season starts. He's not missing a game.

Dave Lane 08-14-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367826)
Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

I love the depth of the D line we need them to get the push at least while Houston is out.

I think next game we should let Dadi get some reps with first team D and see how he does.

The disappointment is how Dee ford can look great some games and disappear others. I hope this is just one game but I thought he'd be further along than this by now.

Are you KCNut?

Chief Pagan 08-14-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367857)
It's a bit premature to be over-optimistic.

What, you want to wait until February to be over-optimistic?

:Poke:

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 12368002)
What, you want to wait until February to be over-optimistic?

:Poke:

I'd rather be cautiously optimistic. I'd rather do that than be bipolar with a love/hate thing. I think this team could be very good. But realistically our defense has some big question marks and could take a step back, and I believe we'll rely on our offense much more than we did last year to win games for us. I think we could still do well holding the fort until Houston comes back. But I think we're really undermining how big a loss Houston and Sean Smith are to the defense, not to mention Abdullah.

TEX 08-14-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12368051)
I'd rather be cautiously optimistic. I'd rather do that than be bipolar with a love/hate thing. I think this team could be very good. But realistically our defense has some big question marks and could take a step back, and I believe we'll rely on our offense much more than we did last year to win games for us. I think we could still do well holding the fort until Houston comes back. But I think we're really undermining how big a loss Houston and Sean Smith are to the defense, not to mention Abdullah.

Nailed it.

FloridaMan88 08-14-2016 01:42 PM

The offensive line has the potential to be elite... easily the best offensive line the Chiefs have had since Roaf retired.

Ware and West look like they will pick up where they left off last year which begs the question why the Chiefs didn't try to trade (or be more aggressive in trying to trade) Jamaal Charles this offseason and free up his $6 million cap number (which could have been 100% taken off the Chiefs' salary cap with a trade).

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12368124)
The offensive line has the potential to be elite... easily the best offensive line the Chiefs have had since Roaf retired.

Ware and West look like they will pick up where they left off last year which begs the question why the Chiefs didn't try to trade (or be more aggressive in trying to trade) Jamaal Charles this offseason and free up his $6 million cap number (which could have been 100% taken off the Chiefs' salary cap with a trade).

I hate the idea of seeing Charles in another uniform. But at this point you look at contracts for Berry, Mauga, and even Bailey and realize we're at a point where we can afford to unload superstars. Will be interesting to see how active they are in the trade market. Maybe they're waiting for a green light on charles' physical.

Hammock Parties 08-14-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12367974)
Hali, while a year older, is fresh after getting all of TC off. .

Doesn't make a bit of difference. He'll be hobbling around by game 4. Hali is running on fumes.

Chiefshrink 08-14-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367826)
Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

Please comment more. And here is a little tip to thicken your skin to post more. Just consider the source. Overtime you realize who are the insecure folks who have an emotional need to be a 'trolling bully' because everywhere in their life outside of CP they are a 'nobody' and CP is the only place they can actually 'seem like a somebody' regardless of their football acumen. Respectful humorous criticism is one thing but 'trolling abuse' is another.


Please post more because as it say's in the 'good book' "iron sharpens iron" and there are a lot of knowledgable guys here that provide many good takes coming from different angles and your angle is always welcome in my world because we all sharpen each other.;)

Chiefshrink 08-14-2016 03:03 PM

Sean Smith will not be missed. He only played well against mediocre to poor QB's and offenses IMHO. Smith got lit up by good QBs. Good riddance.

Chiefshrink 08-14-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12367875)
Complete fallacy. First off, Smith only missed three games. The defense was weak against the Bengals and the Bears with Sean Smith.

The Texans and their two QB's did not "pick apart" the Chiefs defense.

Denver was down by 7 points with 40 seconds left, scoring only 17 to that point.

And Aaron Rodgers has been known to "pick apart" NFL defenses for nearly a decade.

BINGO !!!!

chiefscafan 08-15-2016 03:04 PM

I think we are stronger in the defensive backfield this year with more depth. I have confidence that Gaines, Nelson, White, or Russell will step up to be the other CB.

As I said Dorsey should be given a lot more credit for turning this team around with the draft and players he's added.

I have thick skin it just annoys me that some people don't comment on the topic, but use it to say something that attacks me. Yes there are some good people on here and hopefully will still comment on subjects I post .

I agree bout the O line the Schwartz pickup was huge Alex will have more time watch.

tooge 08-15-2016 03:19 PM

Even though we have what seems like an improved offense, we will still be driven crazy by the pass happy offensive game time play calling. I still like a run first team. Lower chance of things going wrong, and wears out a defense.

Chief Northman 08-15-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12368157)
Doesn't make a bit of difference. He'll be hobbling around by game 4. Hali is running on fumes.

And on fumes he is still the best OLB we have when considering Houston has been rather unavailable as of late.

2017 draft is loaded with solid edge/pass rush players and the Chiefs will have a boatload of picks. Replenishing the position begins soon.

King_Chief_Fan 08-15-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12368216)
Please comment more. And here is a little tip to thicken your skin to post more. Just consider the source. Overtime you realize who are the insecure folks who have an emotional need to be a 'trolling bully' because everywhere in their life outside of CP they are a 'nobody' and CP is the only place they can actually 'seem like a somebody' regardless of their football acumen. Respectful humorous criticism is one thing but 'trolling abuse' is another.


Please post more because as it say's in the 'good book' "iron sharpens iron" and there are a lot of knowledgable guys here that provide many good takes coming from different angles and your angle is always welcome in my world because we all sharpen each other.;)

:clap: nice reply shrink

Iowanian 08-15-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367826)
Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here..

If people ever blasted my opinion, I would just smile because I know that they'll get together at the closest public restroom and wash each others boy parts.

cookster50 08-15-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12368124)
which begs the question why the Chiefs didn't try to trade (or be more aggressive in trying to trade) Jamaal Charles this offseason and free up his $6 million cap number (which could have been 100% taken off the Chiefs' salary cap with a trade).

Who would trade for a rb coming back from serious injury?

Mr. Laz 08-15-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12369761)
I think we are stronger in the defensive backfield this year with more depth. I have confidence that Gaines, Nelson, White, or Russell will step up to be the other CB.

Probably the weakest position on the team.

1. Corners (Peters and nothing until someone else proves something)
2. OLB (Houston is hurt,Hali is old(still solid for now) and Ford sucks. Hope young guys step up )
3. WR (until someone opposite of Maclin steps up. If Mac gets injured we are toast)

Rain Man 08-15-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12369776)
Even though we have what seems like an improved offense, we will still be driven crazy by the pass happy offensive game time play calling. I still like a run first team. Lower chance of things going wrong, and wears out a defense.

I agree with you philosophically if the NFL was still real football, but I don't think a run-first team can have success in the modern NFL. The rules are tilted toward passing too much.

threebag 08-15-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12370241)
Probably the weakest position on the team.

1. Corners (Peters and nothing until someone else proves something)
2. OLB (Houston is hurt,Hali is old(still solid for now) and Ford sucks. Hope young guys step up )
3. WR (until someone opposite of Maclin steps up. If Mac gets injured we are toast)

3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

donkhater 08-16-2016 06:30 AM

At the moment I don't see the defense being that great. You are not a great defense in this league of routine 4000 yard passers if you can't rush the passer. I don't see where it is coming from.

As for the offense--yeah it looks improved, but although Reid is a great schemer, his play-calling is weird. Kelce needs to be a much bigger focus this season than he has been.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-16-2016 07:50 AM

Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO.

Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.

HemiEd 08-16-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12370522)
Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO.

Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.

Well said, we can only hope that happens.

staylor26 08-16-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 12370464)
At the moment I don't see the defense being that great. You are not a great defense in this league of routine 4000 yard passers if you can't rush the passer. I don't see where it is coming from.

As for the offense--yeah it looks improved, but although Reid is a great schemer, his play-calling is weird. Kelce needs to be a much bigger focus this season than he has been.

Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-16-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12371297)
Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.

I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.

staylor26 08-16-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12371608)
I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.

That's because you're evaluating him at SOLB. You can say all of those thugs about Hali as well, especially before his transition to 3/4 OLB. He'd be fine at WOLB with Houston on the other side.

Rausch 08-17-2016 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12370337)
3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

We are DEEEEEEEEP at WR now.

This is no longer a concern...

HemiEd 08-17-2016 06:49 AM

I am starting to have a lot of confidence in this management team.

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rico 08-17-2016 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12370337)
3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

Yeah, I didn't realize Streater was such a good pickup. Pretty pumped up about that guy.

Rausch 08-17-2016 07:09 AM

Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

milkman 08-17-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12372184)
Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

Seriously?

Danguardace 08-17-2016 07:49 AM

Offense should take 2 steps forward; O-line, WR and even RB upgraded.

Defense will take a step back until everyone is healthy and when secondary is settled.

jjchieffan 08-17-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12372184)
Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

How can you not be a fan of Dorsey drafts? Especially after this draft. He has drafted some real talent and built incredible depth on this team mostly through the draft. Peters was DROY, LDT is starting at guard, Morris starting at center, Ehinger at guard. Just to scratch the surface. He has had some of the best drafts for KC in the last 25+ years. In fact, I would challenge you to show me anyone in the league that has drafted better in the last 4 years( other than Seattle of course, lol)

Buckweath 08-17-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12372287)
How can you not be a fan of Dorsey drafts? Especially after this draft. He has drafted some real talent and built incredible depth on this team mostly through the draft. Peters was DROY, LDT is starting at guard, Morris starting at center, Ehinger at guard. Just to scratch the surface. He has had some of the best drafts for KC in the last 25+ years. In fact, I would challenge you to show me anyone in the league that has drafted better in the last 4 years( other than Seattle of course, lol)

Dorsey has been great at drafting.

IMO, he's as good a GM as they come.

Frosty 08-17-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367713)
I rewatched the game this morning. Our Offensive line is gonna be amazing the biggest addition as I said when we signed him was the RT Schwartz. Alex and Foles had more time to go through the progressions not running around for their lives.

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367826)
Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

Part of why you get blasted is the BS in bold above. Name one person that didn't think Schwartz would be a huge addition. However, they didn't all create threads to pat themselves on the back for their Captain Obvious "takes".

JMO

bricks 08-17-2016 12:37 PM

I think John Dorsey has done an excellent job with respect to drafting over the past years.
As a result, our player personnel is getting better starting wise and depth wise.

However, I still don't feel optimistic and hopeful that the Chiefs will win a SuperBowl.

The problem with this team lies within the coaching and quarterback.

Even though Alex Smith is a winner, I never seen him as a guy that could carry a team through controversy. If the Chiefs are losing, forget it. Their chances of coming back to win a football game aren't good. Alex Smith isnt the guy that will be engineering game tying or winning drives. He is the main reason why the Chiefs aren't a come from behind team.

Combine that with the fact the Chiefs have a coach in Andy Reid that doesn't know how to manage a game clock or call sensible plays at the right time when needed be and also Sutton can't make defensive adjustments during games.

It's the same sh*t. Don't forget this folks. Let's keep this reality in perspective and remember these are the reasons the Chiefs won't win a SuperBowl under this regime.

staylor26 08-17-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 12372793)
I think John Dorsey has done an excellent job with respect to drafting over the past years.
As a result, our player personnel is getting better starting wise and depth wise.

However, I still don't feel optimistic and hopeful that the Chiefs will win a SuperBowl.

The problem with this team lies within the coaching and quarterback.

Even though Alex Smith is a winner, I never seen him as a guy that could carry a team through controversy. If the Chiefs are losing, forget it. Their chances of coming back to win a football game aren't good. Alex Smith isnt the guy that will be engineering game tying or winning drives. He is the main reason why the Chiefs aren't a come from behind team.

Combine that with the fact the Chiefs have a coach in Andy Reid that doesn't know how to manage a game clock or call sensible plays at the right time when needed be and also Sutton can't make defensive adjustments during games.

It's the same sh*t. Don't forget this folks. Let's keep this reality in perspective and remember these are the reasons the Chiefs won't win a SuperBowl under this regime.

:facepalm:

Wow. Coming back from 1-5 to win 11 straight, and you have fans saying stupid shit like this?

Good grief. One of the worst takes I've seen on CP in a while.

milkman 08-17-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372809)
:facepalm:

Wow. Coming back from 1-5 to win 11 straight, and you have fans saying stupid shit like this?

Good grief. One of the worst takes I've seen on CP in a while.

I don't think he was talking in terms of coming back from a losing streak to lead a team on a winning streak.

But I also am ready to wait and see how Smith fares with some actual weapons at his disposal in games that the Chiefs fall behind in.

Over the course of that winning streak last year, Smith showed his ability to make plays.

staylor26 08-17-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12372935)
I don't think he was talking in terms of coming back from a losing streak to lead a team on a winning streak.

But I also am ready to wait and see how Smith fares with some actual weapons at his disposal in games that the Chiefs fall behind in.

Over the course of that winning streak last year, Smith showed his ability to make plays.

I knew what he meant, and it's still ridiculous. If he was good enough to come back from that "controversy", I don't see why you'd be concerned about his ability to do so in a single game now that we likely have an above average OL and a healthy amount of weapons at every position.

Also, would that Buffalo game last year not count? All things considered, he was also pretty ****ig good in that last playoff game with no Maclin.

Buckweath 08-17-2016 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372942)
I knew what he meant, and it's still ridiculous. If he was good enough to come back from that "controversy", I don't see why you'd be concerned about his ability to do so in a single game now that we likely have an above average OL and a healthy amount of weapons at every position.

Also, would that Buffalo game last year not count? All things considered, he was also pretty ****ig good in that last playoff game with no Maclin.

I think it's simple.

It will always be hard to win a Superbowl with an average QB.

But look, Denver just did it last year and I consider the Chiefs were good enough and had the team to win a SuperBowl last year.

This being said, I don't think it's out of question that Smith might play like a top 10 QB this year.

bricks 08-17-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372809)
:facepalm:

Wow. Coming back from 1-5 to win 11 straight, and you have fans saying stupid shit like this?

Good grief. One of the worst takes I've seen on CP in a while.

This is not what I mean.

You've misinterpreted my post.

Im referring to situations like the New England playoff game last year when the Chiefs were down by I don't remember exactly 10 or 14 points whatever it was late in the 4th....Put him in situations like that on the road in a hostile playoff environment, I feel confident he won't help his team come back and win the game. That's all I'm saying bro.

Would you feel comfortable or confident that Smith could come through for his team in such a particular situation? I'm guessing you probably wouldn't.

bricks 08-17-2016 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 12372982)
I think it's simple.

It will always be hard to win a Superbowl with an average QB.

But look, Denver just did it last year and I consider the Chiefs were good enough and had the team to win a SuperBowl last year.

This being said, I don't think it's out of question that Smith might play like a top 10 QB this year.

It'll be interesting to see how he bodes with a new and improved Oline. Also, more weapons and added depth to the offense.

He has a better cast around him that could make him a top 10 QB.

Chief Pagan 08-17-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372942)
I knew what he meant, and it's still ridiculous. If he was good enough to come back from that "controversy", I don't see why you'd be concerned about his ability to do so in a single game now that we likely have an above average OL and a healthy amount of weapons at every position.

Also, would that Buffalo game last year not count? All things considered, he was also pretty ****ig good in that last playoff game with no Maclin.

It's not that he has zero capacity to come back from being down in a game. However, I think he is too married to the idea of never throwing picks. If you are ahead, or the game is still early, fine. But when the team is behind later in the game, I think he needs to take more chances. Some games it will result in more picks (games that likely would have been losses anyway) but overall I think it would improve our record.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12370522)
Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO.

Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.

:clap:

Mr. Laz 08-17-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12370337)
3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

until someone opposite of Maclin steps up.

Danguardace 08-18-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 12373067)
It'll be interesting to see how he bodes with a new and improved Oline. Also, more weapons and added depth to the offense.

He has a better cast around him that could make him a top 10 QB.

I think it is now or never for Alex Smith... it has to be.

4th Year in the same system and every department of the Chiefs offense will be upgraded. No more excuses.


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