Smith signs with Raiders
 

Raiders add cornerback Sean Smith
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2016, 7:55 AM EST
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The best available player in our Free Agent Hot 100 has been snapped up.

Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith has agreed to a deal with the Raiders.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports that it’s a four-year deal worth $40 million, with $20 million guaranteed.

Heading into free agency, Smith was our No. 14 player available. The 13 ahead of him have all either signed a contract or been franchised.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-sean-smith/

A 2009 second-round pick of the Dolphins, Smith played four seasons in Miami before signing a three-year, $18 million deal with the Chiefs in free agency. Now Smith is on his third team, and his third contract.

Damn, not a terrible contract

seemed destined to be. I hope he quits on his career like Bowe

I know it wasnt realistic but I was really hoping we could somehow keep him.

He is dead to me now....

**** Sean Smith, we can do better. Now he is just going be a punk ass bitch in Oakland.

Hope he gets a DUI celebrating

@kkwhb: Chiefs couldn't do $20m guaranteed for Sean Smith? Can't wait to see them find a guy other teams won't throw toward.

Shit.

Those Oakland games are going to be tough...SS is gonna be calling out our plays all day.

Who couldn't do that? "SCREEN! SCREEN!"

Good for him, $20m guaranteed is a lot.

Added bonus, lives in California and will have a longer off-season to enjoy it each year!

Keitzman is a little bitch.

Can't wait to hear the Raider twats on how we suck and they're coming to steam roll the West

Good for Smith, good deal for him.. Sucks he went to the Raiders though. Why not go after Casey Heyward and draft a CB??

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You must not know any of them. We hear it every year from them, until the fourth game or so.

Probably for the best. Someone had to go, and my bet is that Sean becomes viewed by OAK as a huge swing and miss soon enough.

With Peters, Gaines and Nelson as our top 3 corners now, CB almos certainly has to be at the top of Dorsey's list heading into the draft.

Well hell

Have fun sucking ass, smiff

disagree, he's not worth 10 per, and we'll be alright moving on

Prince Amukamara and Casey Hayward are still available. Wouldn't surprise me if Dorsey signs one. Seems like he prefers to go into the draft with the freedom to go BPA.

Absolutely. Have to believe that CB will be a rd 1-2 selection.



Probably been mentioned, but is brother Schwartz worth bringing back for OG? so long as the deal is incentive-based for injuries/games played. Experienced depth along the OL, and familiarity with Andy's scheme.

?

Dorsey got his 3 prime years for $18 mill total

Great value

**** him, he's a Raider.

I would think Mackenzie Alexander shoots to the top of the Chiefs draft board.

Prince amukamara has been injury prone and inconsistent as a pro. Plus I'm not sure he fits suttons style. Pacman is old.... Slim pickings.

What was the name of that ex-Raiders CB that we had for a couple years...and the dude sucked. I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just thought about it and couldn't remember the dude's name.

This has been the pattern, fill the major holes with reasonable FAs and enter the draft with lot of flexibility.

- a 3rd round picks sucks ass that's for sure

Stanford Routt.

Stanford Routt

Yes... yes.

That dude sucked balls.

yup, our only screaming need imo

cb, qbotf, and wr2

Now is actually the perfect time to grab a qb (hear me, gods?)

You gotta think we get that 3rd rounder back after the appeal. I see it being reduced to a later pick.

Prince Amukamara? I would rather over pay him than risk drafting a rookie, chance are against striking Oil two years running.

So, for $20 mill guaranteed it was either Smith or Howard/Schwartz (rough math)

We chose correctly.

absolutely

Not possible...

Because...

The Chiefs need a second corner.

Looks like they're counting on Gaines for that

But I bet we take a corner with a top two pick

Amukamara or Heyward would fill in just fine.

Anyone who signs with the Faid is in it for the money.

Dead to me.

This is why I didn't like the Tamba contract.

Definitely a good signing for them. I'd like to see us sign one and have a healthy body to go along with Gaines coming off injury and Nelson developing.

We will see how good Sean Smith really is with a bunch of no named safeties behind him.

Raiders have literally nobody else in their secondary worth a shit and will still probably give up 350 pass yards a game and have to score 30 points to try and win every week. They have zero talent there besides their new 10 million dollar man

These guys don't cheer the jerseys like the fans... and they shouldn't, their time in this game is finite, they should get paid when they can.

Basically, this.

What the hell has happened to TTC guys and who's this posting all reasonable for him?

Figured the Faders would slap down 20 million.

They are trying to buy the division. Maybe this will finally be the year they don't have a losing record.

Wont really make a difference. Out with Woodson, in with Hollywood. Still double down on red.

But he won't be going going back back to the playoffs playoffs

Is it really? Or do you really just like Lynch?

I know everyone always moans about the 'wait 'till next year' answer, but look at it objectively and isn't next year really a better time to take the QB?

What starters will need to be replaced next season? As I see it, none of them. The full allotment of starters on this team appear to be under control for the next 2 seasons at least (presuming a Berry extension and the ability to tag Poe). We'll also have our full complement of draft picks. Moreover, we'll get max benefit from the QB as well.

If we take a QB now, we'll be looking at almost certainly 2 years of his rookie contract being burned as a backup. If we take him next season, we'll probably only burn one of those years off and be able to move on from Smith in 2018 when his cap hit is $20 million and his dead money is only $3.6. That was always the most likely year to move on from him and it remains so. We would then have a full 4 seasons of the rookie QB still to use up before we have to pay him like a grown up.

We wouldn't be looking to replace starters in the 2017 draft and we'd have all of our picks plus any potential comp picks. I figure that Smith and Schwartz will offset but it's also possible that Allen's shocker of a deal offsets Schwartz, giving us a 'net' of Smith's deal and Daniel's surprisingly expensive contract. That could realistically net us 2 fourth rounders in '17.

Most of the ceteris paribus sort of factors here point to 2017 being the better year to draft a QB and by a fair amount. The only wild card truly is the available talent.

If you believe that Paxton Lynch (should he be available) is a legitimate franchise guy then you go ahead and take him. But you're not taking him because the time is ideal - you're taking him because the player is ideal and the timing is tolerable.

Their contracts would be near SS though wouldn't they? I would think at least in the eight a year range.

And to expand on that (as though the novel wasn't enough), I actually think the loss of the pick would make me more aggressive in trading UP.

I know most people think right now that we should trade back to recoup the 3rd; I disagree. We're not sitting on a ton of high value picks this season anyway. We're sitting at the back of the round and with fewer comp picks and now down a 3rd. We aren't going to 'win' this draft on volume. Our best bet is to make the picks we do have count.

My preference at this point is to be extremely aggressive and see if we can get up high enough to snag Eli Apple. He's a perfect fit for this system, IMO and if you put him alongside Peters with Berry behind them, you have an exceptionally talented young secondary that's going to play together for at least 4 years. And again, with so few starters not locked up for the foreseeable future, I'd rather focus on quality rather than quantity in going after prospects.

If Apple is there at, say, 20, I'd give up our 1st and 2nd for their 1st and 4th.

I wouldn't expect Heyward's to be. Amukamara's may be, but that would only happen if some team really expected him to stay healthy (i.e. the Texans deal with Allen).

It only ever takes 1 team to blow up a market but for others, the market just never comes together. That's all that explains the difference between Malik Jackson getting one of the largest deals in NFL history and Jaye Howard getting less money in 2 years than Jeff Allen will get in 1.

If a market never truly materializes for either player, you could see the same situation happen that happened with Sean Smith when we got him. We get a player that's 90% as capable as the big money signing but at 50% the cost.

Seemed inevitable. oh, well...sorry dude...gotta hate you now.
Moving on.....

I don't think there was any way the Chiefs were going to reward him with 20 mil cash after getting the DWI. They have drivers in place for their players, so it was really a dumb move and sealed it once the contract got so high.

with goodell at the helm, i'm not counting on any breaks

Also Oakland is submitting a bill to legislation that would legalize crime in the state of California. So you can do the crime but don't have to do the time.

I'm fine with Heyward at $7 million a year.

So what type of defense does Oakland run nowadays? I highly doubt Smith will be able to just stick to one side of the field and body the receivers against the sideline like he preferred to in KC.

I'm smelling another Brandon Carr scenario where Smith will be forced to follow the offenses #1 guy, which isn't going to end up well for Faid fans. Not to mention how they will react when he drops half of his potential interceptions.

ROFL

Really?

I'd pull the chute on Heyward at $6 million. The Packers didn't run enough man coverage to convince me that he'll be able to press consistently well. $7 million's too rich for a gamble like that for me.

I guess Pugs was right, we couldn't keep everyone.

:(

Hmmm.....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ble-free-agent

This would seem to echo my concerns w/r/t Heyward - does he have the deep speed to play press-man for us? Look at Thomas torching his ass and then just pulling away. I worry that Heyward's a guy that would have to gamble a lot to be successful in this scheme and he'll lose some of those gambles because he lacks the recovery speed to save himself when he guesses wrong.

I just don't see him as a safe enough bet due to scheme fit issues. I'd have a hard time giving him that $7 million and honestly I may not even like him at my original $6 million figure.

Heyward seems like a slot only guy to me.

It would either be prince outside, a draft pick, or Gaines. Gaines may actually have the best ability to play out there.

I hope Dorsey has another Marcus Peters up his sleeve in the draft this year.

Yep. Give me Smith over Tamba or Johnson.

Probably tamba, dunno about dj.

I kinda wonder if Kendall Fuller isn't that guy.

Fuller's injury will scare some teams off (like Peters' suspension) but a lot of folks think he has the highest upside of any cover corner in the draft.

It seems unlikely that he'd slide all the way to us, though. He just has a similar profile to Peters in that he's a risk/reward guy who could play great football from day 1 if that risk is overcome.

Don't know anything about him, enlighten me.

Wish we could have got him signed but after all his teammates re-signed for reasonable amounts to keep it together he must be a real douche for not following suit. Can't wait for his next DUI.

He should certainly be there.

He had some rough games this past season (in particular the Ohio State game against Thomas), but he was suposedly playing on an injured knee.

In the few games I watched from 2014, he looked much better.

'Allowed 16.7 yards per completion when he was fully healthy in 2014 ... '


That's a pretty high avg for Fuller. Must take a lot of chances.

I wish I wasn't, Laz

It's cool. No one is going to know what SS struggles with more than our staff. JMac gets to twist him up a few times, it'll be fun.

Now, sign Abdullah and a vet corner, and let's go draft.

Kyle Fuller's younger brother. Most accounts say he's more talented and his Soph. tape would seem to support that. Hell, he even put up 6 picks as a true freshman. His early tapes and development screamed top 10 pick.

Yeah, had some rough games this year but as noted, he played most of his season on a bum knee (well, 'most' being the 3 games he played before they shut him down).

It's a scout's decision, IMO. If your scouts get eyes on him and believe he's the player his soph season suggests he could be, then he's a likely first rounder with the potential to be as good a cover corner as anyone in this draft (Ramsey included). But if you think he maxed and that his JR year was a result of him simply not developing rather than the injury, he's probably more of a 3rd rounder.

He needs to get out there and run for scouts before you can slot him anywhere, IMO.

Yup.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/kendall-fuller/

He's a bit of a 'peaker'. Likes to take chances and looks like a guy that may get beat up a bit early on by smarter quarterbacks that can use their eyes well.

But there's a ton of physical ability there. I love the explosion and the length.

His pro day is next Wednesday.

That's a problem that can be fixed fairly easily if he is coachable.