2015 Chiefs WR Core Worst in NFL?
 

There has been much talk this off season regarding the improvements to the much maligned 2014 KC wide receiver corps. The addition of Maclin and Avant (since Avant was a late season add last year) with the flash from Wilson toward the end of the season, the rebranding of DAT as a WR and the hope that Conley will be a player, many here see this as the best WR corps the Chiefs have had in some time.

It is - in my opinion - potentially the best WR corps Smith has ever played with in his 10 years in the league.

Yet, there is an article on Arrowhead Pride that lists Chiefs 2015 WR corps the worst in NFL.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/6...rs-weakest-nfl

What say you? Are we (many of us anyway) just drinking the Kool-aid, or do the Chiefs have something going on the outside?

Corps.

Kool-Aid.

We know what oponions are like and everyone has one

LOL Beat me to it...

Fixed... thanks.

No way it can be worse than last years WR corp...

Yeah I went there and pointed to the name on the back of my softball shirt.

What do you expect? Yeah we added Maclin....but we also took a hit when we lost Bowe. Wilson and Conley are both unknowns at this point. DAT is a hybrid. Avant is old. Rogers has the talent but a 10 cent head.

Hopefully Maclin can breathe some life into our WR corpse.

More like a corpse

How hard is it for you to spell Conley correctly? You've misspelled it in like four threads.

Go back to the 9ers board and misspell their players names. Take Sandy Vagina with you.

I have an ultra homer buddy that is calling for this year to be Junior Hemmingway's breakout year. "All he needs is a chance!! He has the same measurable as Dwayne Bowe!! He can really contribute on the other side of Maclin with Kelce and Charles in the mix! Watch this guy, he's going to shock the league this year!!!1"

No, my ultra homer buddy is not SNR filling his Terrence Copper obsession. I think.

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Hey, those guys are all due for break out years.

We're gonna have five 1,000 yard WRs - you just wait!

Fixed... thanks.

Well, it was the worst in '14...so, i would have to go with that until i see something different.

we really don't know yet.

Maclin is the only proven stud that we have at the moment.

A group of WRs like the Jags have are all young and talented, but they're just as unproven, and they don't have a player like Maclin.

I still can't fathom how Tom Brady is able to operate with the diarrhea he has at WR.

Panthers are still pretty bad. I'm not that big of a Kelvin Benjamin fan, honestly.

Titans? Rams? Ravens? Did the Ravens re-sign Torrey Smith?

The Chiefs may have unprovens and crap behind Maclin, but they at least have Maclin. Those other teams don't.

No....the Ravens replaced Torrey Smith with Breshad Perriman.

Yeah... I knew they wouldn't be toward the top of the list, or even middle of the list, but ranked as worst was a little surprising. What it did for me was really bring me down to earth on Wilson specifically. The last few games of last year makes it easy to forget that he went undrafted in 2014.

Still have a big question mark at WR2 which I suppose is responsible for the low ranking. I still thought though that Maclin and Avant (aged, but still respected) would be enough to propel the Chiefs over someone...

Yeah... this. Torrey Smith signed with the niners btw.

I think it's off-season. I think that during off-season, reporters at times make a desperate reach for stories. I think that saying, the only receiving core to not score a TD in 2014, will be the worst receiving core in 2015, is lazy and easy journalism. I think there's nothing else that really needs to be said. Blah, blah, blah, nobody knows shit until the season starts. Next topic plz.

LaFell and Edelman aren't really that bad. They seem like solid WR2s working with a great QB.

Gronk pretty much holds that offense up though.

Edelman is great. LaFell is extremely average.

Edelman's a bum. I could lock that smurf up.

:facepalm:

he would truck you repeatedly lol

He'd be blanketed like the first snowfall

LaFell would produce AJ Jenkins numbers if he played with Alex Smith in KC. He's nothing special at all.

I think Albert Wilson will emerge as a solid #2 and with Conley and Dat we should be able to score through the air. Kelce will get a lot of attention, so that should free up the WR corps to do some damage.
I think Alex should be throwing to these guys as often as he can this offseason. He should almost live with Maclin...

I'd say we're better off than the Chargers, Rams, Panthers, Jags, & Houston at the very least. There's a few others that are close.

Edelman is GREAT, if you've got an ultra-efficient, ultra-accurate QB. There are like 4 guys in the NFL that can make good use of him, and if he were on any other team, he wouldn't be anything special.

Because of his amazingly quick feet, great hands, and ability to shake and bake, however, in the Patriots offense he's ridiculous.

LaFell is fine. A 2 or 3 WR. Nothing special.

But yes, Gronk is the key. He's seriously the greatest TE I've ever seen in my life. Not only great at pass catching, but an above-average, tenacious blocker. Best all-around package.

Yeah....too bad he's a huge ****ing douche.

That filter didn't work lol

He is? Just seems like he has a frat boy mentality. Not exactly my kind of guy, but whatever.

And what's Travis Kelce? He's a douche too if you ask me.

He wouldn't even notice you on his way to the endzone.

I know we're not what I'd call a good WR corps. We have Maclin as a legit, proven threat. Kelce is a TE and our second legit option, and we don't know how legit he really is yet.

Then...it's a bunch of questions marks.

Still not an excuse for Alex not to produce this year. It's year three in this system and he's such a brilliant guy that he should make a guy or two shine.

He's had 2 first round receivers he couldn't make shine. Nm it's all the WRs fault huh.

**** you and **** Arrowhead Pride. n00b.

You mean Crabtree who played with Kaep for 2 years and only got a call from the Raiders? That guy sucks

I'm not a big fan of the depth at the WR position on this team, I'd rank them bottom 5 still, but I wouldn't say that they are the absolute worse unless we lose Maclin, then it's really bad. But that's the problem, the one quality starter on this team has suffered injuries in seasons prior and wasn't all that consistent in his production under Reid. He didn't have a 1k yard season until Kelly came along.

As long as we're scoring enough points to beat enough teams to make the playoffs, I don't care who's catching the TD passes or running the ball in.

Man, you Alex Smith sexuals love to reference some Arrowhead Pride.

Jenkins and Baldwin are garbage, bro.

What's wrong with Arrowhead Pride? Just another place to find Chiefs info.

Outside of Maclin, its easy enough to admit we 're hoping for some people to step up... but worst in the league?

I sincerely doubt it.

Wilson didnt just flash here and there, he put together a nice body of work the last 4-5 games.

Conley has every measurable you could want and the intelligence to back it up, he's a fairly safe bet.

Thomas may be gadgety but he's already a proven performer and will prove to be a special gadget.

Rogers has everything you want physically, but yeah we're hoping for coaching and maturity to take effect there.

Avant... just dont care how slow he is, he knows how to find the open spot, he clicked/produced immediately last year.

Hemingway is just a guy, but he's atleast depth caliber NFL material.

Other guys like whoever, Hammond, Brown etc... who knows.

But that list of guys, along with the tight ends? Thats a great mix of size and speed... if Smith cant produce with that, then he needs to go.

They weren't the worst last year, they certainly aren't this year.

But the Alex Smith nuthuggers over at AP have to have some built in excuses, so...

Exactly. It isn't loaded Madden style so they think it's not enough.

While i agree in theory, it's really not that cut and dry.

We will be able to tell for the most part

Is the Oline holding it's own?
Are the receivers holding on to the ball?
Are the passes off-target?
WRs running around wide open?

None of these things were really happening last year.

fyi - in 5 games Avant had 13 rec/153 yrds ... hardly what would call clicking/producing. Just sayin'

It's dumb. People always make these claims without looking at other rosters. There are some REALLY bad groups out there.

IIRC, he didnt get much if any action his first two weeks in, but did some nice work vs the fade, steelers and chargers... didnt Smiths longest pass of the year go to him for 41 against pittsburgh?

Not trying to oversell the guy, but I sure dont depise what he brings either... he's a guy that knows what the heck he's supposed to be doing out there and rarely drops one.

He'll be around for 2015 and thats a good thing... we need an old steady freddy just like him right now.

Just watched another Hard Knocks episode where Dwayne Bowe dropped every pass thrown to him his rookie camp. Shoulda seen it coming.

Pfft.

Just Lil' Chiefy, further setting up the Alexcuse Landslide of 2015.

Expected.

Yep. It's not like a QB should be so lucky as to have an OL and WR corps above bottom 5 in the league or anything.

Schmuck.

And don't forget; the O-line isn't composed of a one-way plasma field which would allow Alex to send the ball out, but nothing could get in.

So there's that, too.

Memory could be off... but I thought early on, Bowe had some vision issues, and had to have cataract surgery.

So having 0 TDs throughout 16 games over the course of a season doesn't make the Chiefs WRs the worst in the league?

OK

Actually, that ranking came from NFL.com, original article:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...osition-groups

Yeah, any QB worth his salt would light up the league with a bottom 3 OL combined with a bottom 5 receiving core. LMAO

Maclin is going to be huge for this offense...Bowe was a sloth. It's not just that he's a better suited WR for Reid's offense....it's he is going to make life easier for those around him. Nobody was worried about Bowe getting behind them..he was a major score for this team.

Maclin should be a huge improvement over Bowe in Reid's system and fit better with Smith's abilities but people seem to speak of him as if he's Megatron or something.

Outside of Maclin KC has a bunch of track stars who really haven't proven a damn thing.

true

Since I actually think Maclin is going to be a downgrade from Bowe, it's entirely possible.

We definitely upgraded over the most overrated player in Chiefs history (Bowe).
Maclin can do everything Bowe can't aka run fast, separate and catch consistently.

2-5 WR is a big unknown...until Conley starts quieting the haters.

And Bowe can do things Maclin can't.

Chiefs will certainly miss his down-field blocking... that's for damn sure. Dude was a beast.

In a different system, Bowe is a very good receiver. He's a "chuck it up dawg and I'll go get it" guy.

That's not what Reid and Alex want nor need.

It's why Bowe was able to put up very good numbers with crap QB's. His game was predicated on out muscling the defender for the ball in a general area.

His game is not about precision cuts and timing, which is exactly what Reid's version of the Edwards West Coast system is about.

How's the fishing?

Hey that's great.

I look forward to Maclin precisely cutting his way into 750 yards.

This. Bowe would have been perfectly paired with Flacco.

Until Bowe didn't go up and win the battle for the ball or just plained dropped it. Or maybe he doesn't line up right or make the correctly route adjustment.

Bowe was a FA, why isn't he in Baltimore?

It's entirely possible that you don't suck penis for a living too, but highly unlikely.

Yep. Bowe got very little love in FA.. for a reason.

He is far from useless, but without speed, he better be a beast at jumping for contested passes or out-muscling defenders for the ball. He better be good at working back toward the ball after his route, because of the poor separation. He better ****ing be able to concentrate on keeping his feet in bounds in critical moments. He just wasn't. Whether he just didn't feel like putting in the effort.. I don't know.

I'm glad he is Cleveland's problem.. and this is coming from an LSU fan that really liked him. I thought he would be far better than he was in 2013 through 2014.

Dude got paid... dude got lazy. I honestly think this was the deal.

Nice troll attempt

I didn't say there was anything wrong with AP...although I do believe they are inclined to being delusional homers most of the time...sometimes they do post things that I find interesting, but they are homers.

I just simply stated that you Alex Smith sexuals always refer to and/or link-drop AP. You ASsexuals love AP.

I didn't dispute this.

The OP did reference AP as the source where he (or she) discovered the link. And ASsexuals love their AP. They refer to it all the time....as if the general homer-happy perspective there is going to hold any merit here.

Pretty much. If he was so great, why did he end up with the Browns when there were tons of teams that are much better off at QB than the Browns are who could have used his services if they saw him the same way that many members on this forum do.

Panthers passed on him.
Seahawks passed on him.
Pats passed on him.
Ravens passed on him.
SD passed on him.

etc.

Maybe Bowe really just wasn't that good anymore and everyone knew it? The only team that was willing to give him a starting job was the Browns.