Find the Launch Codes! Alex Smith 6th Best QB Since Week 1!
 

After the terrible performance in week one Alex Smith has the sixth highest passer rating among all NFL QBs with at least 100 passes attempted. His line:

100 of 151 for 1068 yards for 8 TDs and 1 INT and a rating of 101.64.

The comeback win yesterday was a nice outlier that I hope he can duplicate when needed but when we're leading with the rush he's put up some pretty nice performances against the #2, #4, #5, #6, and #12 ranked defenses.

Oh shit.

I have nothing Alex Smith, but we can't just throw out a week of stats to prove a point. How much would the stats of the other 32 starting qb's look if you threw out their worst game? Would Alex still be top six?

I was told he couldn't beat a team with their starting QB and a winning record

And ESPN's QBR rating has him #24.

Actually he would be 9th. But if you took out just the first week the only person who leapfrogs him is Andrew Luck.

Point is he's playing well enough to win - provided he doesn't have to come from behind in the 4th quarter or throw deep down the field. ;)

We were Super Bowl champs through week 9 last year!

Well if you want to count every sack against the QB then it is a great metric to use.

Stupid metric is stupid.

And QB rating is such a superior metric? ROFL

Huh?

We were discussing in another thread that according to one estimate, 10% of his pass attempts result in drops.

I don't know if that is really true or not, but think what his completion percentage SHOULD be and how many drives we could be finishing, if those knuckleheads could just do what they are paid to do - which is catch the balls that hit them in the hands.

Passer rating actually is -- ascribing all sacks to the QB is dumb.

Its 6% and league average is 4.25%. Its not that big of a deal in the scheme of things.

Passing rating is a farce.

So......What.. QBR is a joke..

This too.

That aside Smith has sucked up one game (with an assist from Andy Reid forgetting we have Jamaal Charles), game managed himself to losses in two (with an assist from Andy), played OK in one, and very good in two.

Not spectacular, but steady as a rock... considering he was the best guy available not named Manning when we needed someone, I'll take it.

He's our best shot at winning consistently since Green... just like Trent, he's the perfect guy for a run heavy, play action offense as his days in Frisco will attest to. If only Reid would stick with that style once and for all.

It looks like we're Super Bowl bound fellas.

I mean shit that's 213 yards a game.

That's like...good for 27th in the NFL! HOLY SHIT!

It only took him 20 games ROFL, now he's the best in the league? My god

I am glad we have an elite QB now.

We should stop a mudhole in our next three opponents.

BRING ON THE BUG

Another Alex Smith thread to put on ignore!

So what you are saying is Alex smith in 5 games = Peyton manning in 2 games.

I am not an Alex smith hater, for the most part, but passer rating sucks ass as a stat.

I'm much more interested in my own visual perception of how this offense looks.

Even with our shit stack of receivers, I'm impressed with how the o has been killing time of possession and even the oline is starting to get their shit together.

LMAO I love how any positive Smith news brings out the reerun in the haters.

Please continue to wallow in your own pity. It makes me feel good about myself.

Yep, it really does give 'em the redass when he wins.

Oh wells, they aint harshing my buzz PBJ

TO THE TITANIC!!!

I like Alex but the numbers are skewed, he is in no way shape or form a top 5 qb. idk exactly how qbr works, but id guess percentage completed and tds vs ints play a huge role. and obviously alex excels in those areas as most of his throws have a high completion rate, and low risk of being picked.

We need more chunk plays.

213 ypg is good enough

Fixed

Fury was a good movie.

I am glad we are beating teams with winning records.

That is a really good sign of the team as a whole.

This is a young team....I don't have confidence in Alex to consistently go into places and win on the road yet, but this is a good step.

Personally I still stand by my opinion that we will never win a playoff game with him at the helm...but I could be wrong.

I would much rather take my chances with a different QB, but who? He is probably the only decent option we had....

I would have loved to see this team grow and develop with a rookie , up and coming QB ...I think that couldve been pretty special...

But maybe that will happen in the next couple years. I just feel like I have seen this movie play out before...

On the poitive note, I love kicking the shit out of the chargers and I love the smash mouth style of ball we played yesterday.

That was one of the most enjoyable games Ive watched in a while.

Good think we have 6 of 10 remaining at home, and 3 of the 4 on the road against lesser opponents.

Are you a believer, Baby Lee?

And weighing all statistics the same regardless of time of game and score isnt dumb?

Bottom line, passer rating and QBR both have positives and negatives. Regardless, they are both simply different metrics to judge a particular performance by the QB.

Neither is dumb.

Agreed & we could very well be 5-3 after the next two games

and if we string together some road wins and beat the teams we should beat , we may very well win a wild card.

So that leaves us ...what?

Playing away games every game in the playoffs?

Which divisional winners will we beat , on the road, in January?

I mean I agree with your assessment, the schedule is looking favorable at this point for a POSSIBLE wild card....if things fall a certain way...

My only point is, so what?

I've laid out my position in detail before. In most basic terms, I fully expect this team to be all over the place. Their injuries have disappointed me [not in a sense of fault placing, unless something comes to light over the rash of Achilles ijuries], but their fight has impressed me.

They're about as solid as I could have hoped coming into the season, moreso given the injuries to stars. But I'm not beyond being prepared for a bed-shitting or two, and fully expect at least one more ass-kicking [though I hope against hope it's not against 5head].

I love when people use stats - much less cherry pick a specific stat- apparently knowing nothing about the "guts" of the statistics itself, and then try to "win" an argument using it.

Passer rating might be the single most ridiculous stat kept in the four major professional sports.

Complete passes and don't turn the ball over and it considers you the love child of Peyton Manning, Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas.

A QB with a game rating of 124.5 had a great day, right?

Completed 78% and threw for 2 TD's and no INT's.

Phenomenal day.

Until you watch the game, and see that he only completed 14 passes for 90 yards and his team lost by 20. (before you accuse me of a hypothetical, this is an actual stat line)

Passer rating is pointless. And please, would one of you who think passer rating is a perfectly acceptable way to judge a QB, yet thinks ESPN's QBR is skewed, explain why.

Right now the Steelers or Bengals look very beatable. They could win or lose to anyone any week.

I seriously doubt we could beat any division winner come playoff time...

I agree, which is why it is unfortunate that if you are a wildcard winner, you are guaranteed to play at least 2 divisional winners, on the road.....and most likely 3.

I dont see us beating ONE let alone 3.

So how bout just enjoy the ride? What inevitably happens is out of our control.. so enjoy what you can out of the season. Another one and done? Oh ****ing well... at least there was some good with the bad. There will be 30 other teams dealing with disappointment.

When the Kool Aid man decides to run the ball the team wins. Imagine that.

Take care of the ball and rush the passer and you win games. I told you that before the season. People picking 4 or 5 games were nuts. You going to make a video of that tasty meal?

Right, I know..thats the same thing Ive been hearing my entire life...

Sorry for the fact that I would like more.

SOrry for the fact that I would like to win a playoff game, and break that nasty streak.

Sorry I wont sit back and enjoy anal rape , like you do ,just because you have a crush on Alex Smith...

I would actually like to experience a playoff win...If you actually bothered to read my post instead of bleeding out of your hymen, you would see I think we are going in a good direction....as a team.

I will sit back and watch, and analyze whats going on...but unless there is actually a 'ride' that goes somewhere...I can't really enjoy it..since I have been there so many times.

Someone like you who isn't a chiefs fan, probably does not understand this..You only care about defending smith.

Me , I'd like to see us start by winning a playoff game and then string together just a few seasons of going deep in the playoffs.

Is that asking too much or should I not ask and shut shut up and enjoy the same thing year after year since 1993?

I only care about my enjoyment of the season... and I will enjoy it. You could too, if you would stop being a huge pussy and just accept that (a) you do care.. no matter how much you try to distance your feelings.. and (b) what's in the past is in the past.. you can't control now and you couldn't control then.

You have two choices... have fun with the positives of the season... or be a crybaby bitch and pretend that you can distance yourself when you know you can't.

I don't give a **** which way you go in this. I will enjoy mine. :)

Apology accepted for your utter asshattery in the Castle era.

Name one on the new cowards list...

Pawn mower :)

now hold on there

I will never and have never actively rooted for the chiefs to lose a ball game

come on, be honest or at least fair to me

I never put anyone on the cowards list for saying anything remotely what I said just now...The people I had a problem with were people who WANTED the chiefs to lose ....not people who thought cassel was a mistake.

Re Read that thread if you doubt me.

I do not apologize for anything, other than one simple thing:

I held on too long (by about 6-8 weeks?) to the false hope that cassel would acually get better...

I disagree that I did anything 'utterly asshat' like root for us to lose, or what not...

I'd like you to find a few 'utter asshat' statements I made about cassel....then post them up to prove your statement.

I truly think you might be surprised.....

My opinion of smith is really similar to cassel...I'm not calling for smith's head on a platter or calling for us to start one of our backups.....

I'm willing to hang on...I just have a feeling I know where this is headed.....especially having just been through it with Cassel (my lover)

LOL

Oooooh....

:popcorn:

It is time to exorcise the demons and rid CP of all the Alex haters, this man is the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!

enjoy that typo, it's as meaningful as games won with smitty

be honest.. were you at all excited about the KC win yesterday? Any sense of appreciation in what they did?

You weren't arguing with the 'root to lose' crowd, you were arguing with anyone who said anything critical of Castle.

Generally, the sum and substance of your arguments was an endless string of these kind of posts, usually in the game thread, where things were moving too quick to deal an entire game with the 100s of irrelevant images you spammed it with.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/2813...reerun-o-s.gif

I find it hard to get excited about regular season wins anymore, when I know there is no real hope for this team.

The Chiefs are the TGI Fridays of the NFL. I hate chain restaurants.

Can you imagine if players shared this philosophy? LMAO

They might end up instagramming their gay days.

Not what I said, but OK.

My beef with Alex is there are still WR's open down field that he isn't even throwing to. Example on the second to the last drive yesterday on third down he had I think it was Jenkins open deep in the middle of the field at about the 5 yard line with the DB trailing. Just throw it ahead of him, there was no safety help, if you are off nobody catches it but AJ. Take the chance. Also, on the same play, I think it was Sherman was curling to the sideline at least 20 yards down field wide open also. What's AS do? He threw it away over Kelce's head out of bounds.
Also, when the rush is around him, he just tucks the ball and immediately takes the sack. He plays scared. Reminds me of Bob Greiese. So many other QB's stand tall, keep their eyes down field, throws the ball and take the big hit but complete the pass.

Yes, the Chiefs receivers suck. But right now the leader of the team, the QB, isn't giving his all either. There is room, lots of room for improvement.

Why the heck wasn't Kelce more in the game plan yesterday? Instead of Hemmingway in the slot dropping passes, Kelce could easily take that spot.

Pics?

And right now, this D is better than last year's IMO.
No, they aren't getting the turnovers last year's squad did but they are a lot better fundamentally sound. Covering, tackling, not blowing assignments, giving up big plays. And Berry and DJ are a big part of that.
Berry is not good in coverage and DJ the second half of last year and this year was missing a lot of tackles. Big decisions to be made going forward.

What's frustrating is that there are times where Alex does the opposite and makes great plays.

I'm hoping that over the 2nd half of the season, there's improvement.

Do you remember the play he's talking about?

I don't but I'll probably be re-watching the game after the Royals tomorrow.

I don't have them nor am I one of those guys that can imbed them.
But when that play happened Solomon Wilcox pointed it out on the replay and still footage quickly before the next play. I'm sure anyone else here that watched the game remembers it. He pointed out the deep receiver, I noticed the middle guy open.

QBR & Passer Rating both have their flaws.

Its kind of like looking at drops and saying we only drop 2 passes a game no biggie while ignoring that the drops drops seem to always come on 3rd down and killed drives when a catch would have meant a 1st down, a large gain, or possibly a score. A drop on 1st or 2nd down really isn't equal to a drop on 3rd down and 5 or a drop on a 10 yard pass on 3rd and 20.

You have to look at the whole picture and while Smith isn't really a top 5 QB he is pretty damn good at "his" game which has resulted in way more wins than losses for 3 seasons now.

If he will just start taking some deep aggressive shots downfield, "his" game will be one that can take us somewhere

I've pointed out the significant flaws in the passer rating stat.

You're like the third guy to claim the QBR stat is flawed, but hasn't bothered to give your opinion why.

You're a liar and a troll and I never spammed anything. All you ever point to is some game thread you got butthurt in once. Put up or **** off: link to my cassel spam or utter asshat Cassel posts, or **** off.

Usually it's with his feet.

I remember training camp interviews with Doug Pedersen were he said he was really encouraging Alex to throw the ball down field more this season.
We have to be the team in the NFL that has the least amount of downfield penalties thrown against our opponents for D holding/interference ect. Cause we never throw the ball that far. That's how the Chargers went 80 yards in 39 seconds. Completions and penalties. These days it's a 50-50 shot.
I truly think AS got gun shy after he threw 3 picks in the opener against the Titans.

Because it is actually more subjective than the Passer Rating system. Its driven by ESPN who can use "their" analysis to drive whatever scores they want up and down, kind of like CP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Quarterback_Rating

Do you ever wonder what it's like? Playing football? I mean just by the way you post and go about things, it seems like you've never got to experience playing the game of football and I'm sorry for that.

I've played football before.

On Madden.

I don't remember that and this is the first I've seen anyone mention anything about it.

Oh, mother buy you madden for your birthday?

It's been brought up multiple threads today