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chiefzilla1501 10-19-2014 08:32 PM

AFC West schedule comparisons
 
Interesting things to think about....

Chargers have 2 games left against under .500 teams
Broncos have 3 games left against under .500 teams (+1 against Buffalo)
Chiefs have 4 games games left against under .500 teams (+1 against Buffalo)

Crazy thing is, the Titans are the only team the Chiefs have played so far that is under .500. If Denver wins today (and they probably will), that means the Chiefs have played 4 out of 6 games against teams that are 5-2. That's nuts to think the Chiefs are 3-3 right now, especially given the string of bad luck they've had.

Chiefs=Champions 10-19-2014 08:34 PM

PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL

O.city 10-19-2014 08:35 PM

Win those games against the shit teams, that's 7 wins. Beat buffalo. That's 8.

Find 2 more somewherre

Iconic 10-19-2014 08:36 PM

WC spot isn't that far-fetched anymore.

Direckshun 10-19-2014 08:36 PM

Of our ten remaining games, we have five extremely winnable ones. If we win all of them, that gives us eight wins.

At that point, we need at least one win against the tougher names on our list and we're in.

chiefzilla1501 10-19-2014 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031909)
Win those games against the shit teams, that's 7 wins. Beat buffalo. That's 8.

Find 2 more somewherre

We still have San Diego again and Pittsburgh (that are .500 or above). Two very winnable games.

But for sure, in this tough NFL in this tough division, the Chiefs are going to have be perfect the rest of the way to even sniff a playoff spot.

cmh6476 10-19-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 11031911)
WC spot isn't that far-fetched anymore.

and I think we have learned this year, that once you get in anything is possible!@#!@#!#





wrong sport?

O.city 10-19-2014 08:38 PM

7-3 rest of the way

kcpasco 10-19-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11031912)
Of our ten remaining games, we have five extremely winnable ones. If we win all of them, that gives us eight wins.

At that point, we need at least one win against the tougher names on our list and we're in.

9-7 is hardly a guarantee. They need to get to 10-6.

lcarus 10-19-2014 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 11031911)
WC spot isn't that far-fetched anymore.

It never was in my mind. This is a team that will be a bit below or a bit above .500 come December. I'm guessing a hair above. The people shouting 2-14 and the #1 pick in the draft are just your regular debbie downers.

Direckshun 10-19-2014 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11031919)
9-7 is hardly a guarantee. They need to get to 10-6.

In the last three years, 9-7 gets you in 2/3s of the time.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11031915)
We still have San Diego again and Pittsburgh (that are .500 or above). Two very winnable games.

But for sure, in this tough NFL in this tough division, the Chiefs are going to have be perfect the rest of the way to even sniff a playoff spot.

The nfl is just wacky this year

kcpasco 10-19-2014 08:41 PM

That Titans game really is gonna bite us in the ass.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:42 PM

The Titans game yes.

So will th 9er game that we should have won.

lcarus 10-19-2014 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11031930)
That Titans game really is gonna bite us in the ass.

Everyone I've talked to has been saying that today. I agree.

Direckshun 10-19-2014 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11031915)
We still have San Diego again and Pittsburgh (that are .500 or above). Two very winnable games.

But for sure, in this tough NFL in this tough division, the Chiefs are going to have be perfect the rest of the way to even sniff a playoff spot.

They just gotta beat all five of the teams they're supposed to beat, and then pick off at least one win against one of the five other tough opponents (three of those games are at home).

Basically, this win needs to be in a 4 game win streak by the time Seattle comes to Arrowhead.

Direckshun 10-19-2014 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031936)
The Titans game yes.

So will th 9er game that we should have won.

You could argue we should have won the Broncos game as well.

kcpasco 10-19-2014 08:44 PM

Yes but the Titans are awful.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11031942)
You could argue we should have won the Broncos game as well.

Yep.

They look unbeatable tonight, but I'm anxious to get them in arrowhead. Mainly because I'm going to that game.

Mr. Arrowhead 10-19-2014 08:45 PM

Dam I hope that dam Titans game dont cost us a playoff spot. That shit still pisses me off

kcpasco 10-19-2014 08:47 PM

That Seattle game at Arrowhead doesn't look impossible now.

MahiMike 10-19-2014 08:48 PM

Hire some royals and we can rattle off 9 in a row.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:49 PM

What do you think wins the division, win wise

milkman 10-19-2014 08:50 PM

I don't give a rat's ass about the schedule.

Every game is winnable as long as Andy Reid can keep his head out of his ass.

I have no faith that he can.

milkman 10-19-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031979)
What do you think wins the division, win wise

14

kcpasco 10-19-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031979)
What do you think wins the division, win wise

Denver is at least gonna win 11, probably 12 or 13.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:52 PM

I don't think Denver will lose again, so I'm saying 15

Although I always try not to get too high or low, week to week.

I just don't see a team that can defend Denver

Iconic 10-19-2014 08:53 PM

Chiefs Schedule:
vs Rams - W
vs Jets - W
@ Bills - ??
vs Seahawks - ??
@ Raiders - W
vs Broncos - ??
@ Cardinals - ??
vs. Raiders - W
@ Steelers - ??
vs Chargers - ??

Chargers Schedule:
@ Broncos - ??
@ Dolphins - W
vs. Raiders - W
vs Rams - W
@ Ravens - ??
vs Patriots - ??
vs Broncos - ??
@ 49ers - ??
@ Chiefs - ??

I get the feeling both the Chargers and us will be neck and neck week 17 fighting for a WC spot. That game is going to be insane.

O.city 10-19-2014 08:55 PM

It's be nice to have 10 wins rolling into that charger game. It's conceivable, but not probable

CoMoChief 10-19-2014 09:02 PM

Should have won the Titans and 49ers game....putting us at a happy 5-1 right now w/ only loss being to the Denver Mannings...and we were in that game til the end.

There's no reason at all for that Titans loss, and to be honest I would have had a whipping of the dog session w/ Reid if I was Clark, after that home opener loss. That was BULLSHIT.

BlackOp 10-19-2014 09:03 PM

To me..KC looks like a better team this season. I do think the coaching staff is kind of throwing shit against the wall..finding out what works. They had a new O-line, new TE...and a shit-ton of injures. You couple that with a brutal schedule to start the season...This season is almost the polar opposite of last year..which was soft and they were essentially injury-free. This team is geared for a better 2nd half..

KC needs to keep the ball control tip going..and get Kelce involved. This plays straight into how Smith is wired..Reid should recognize this. It will open up thier sub-par WRs..

You have to give Sutton credit...he has shut down the long bombs against Manning, Brady..and Rivers. This is without Berry and Flowers (last season comparison)....

Berry can go..let someone else overpay for him.

2bikemike 10-19-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031991)
I don't think Denver will lose again, so I'm saying 15

Although I always try not to get too high or low, week to week.

I just don't see a team that can defend Denver

The Game plan for defeating Denver is what we did today. Keep the ball away. We did a pretty good job the first time we played them. We just had to many miscues like we did today. Clean up the penalties. Correct the drops and I think we could compete. It would be nice to tighten up the secondary as well.

O.city 10-19-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 11031996)
Chiefs Schedule:
vs Rams - W
vs Jets - W
@ Bills - ??
vs Seahawks - ??
@ Raiders - W
vs Broncos - ??
@ Cardinals - ??
vs. Raiders - W
@ Steelers - ??
vs Chargers - ??

Chargers Schedule:
@ Broncos - ??
@ Dolphins - W
vs. Raiders - W
vs Rams - W
@ Ravens - ??
vs Patriots - ??
vs Broncos - ??
@ 49ers - ??
@ Chiefs - ??

I get the feeling both the Chargers and us will be neck and neck week 17 fighting for a WC spot. That game is going to be insane.

Dunno if the Phin's are an auto win in Miami. They're playing well

tecumseh 10-19-2014 09:07 PM

Of all the losses, I believe the Broncos hurts us the worst.

BigMeatballDave 10-19-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031991)
I don't think Denver will lose again, so I'm saying 15

Although I always try not to get too high or low, week to week.

I just don't see a team that can defend Denver

Chiefs did pretty good in Pile High. Certainly good enough to win.

O.city 10-19-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11032037)
Chiefs did pretty good in Pile High. Certainly good enough to win.

They just have so many weapons, unless we can beast out the pass rush, I don't see it

O.city 10-19-2014 09:11 PM

We need to just game by game it. Just keep winning

Mother****erJones 10-19-2014 09:12 PM

I didn't have faith but today was a step in the right direction. We need to beat the shitty teams and get San Diego in KC. No one in the AFC is running away right now. We should make the playoffs and that's hard for me to fathom.

okcchief 10-19-2014 09:16 PM

Denver hasn't been a World beater every week. It's not impossible to get a win against them at Arrowhead. The NFL is week to week.

ThaVirus 10-19-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11031898)
If Denver wins today (and they probably will), that means the Chiefs have played 4 out of 6 games against teams that are 5-2.


That is an interesting stat.

chiefzilla1501 10-19-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11032069)
That is an interesting stat.

Well, it would be an interesting stat except that I ****ed it up.

Three 5-win teams and a 4-2 team (San Fran). Still, pretty ridiculous schedule right there.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-19-2014 09:41 PM

Vaginal warts.

Ming the Merciless 10-19-2014 11:01 PM

This team is in good shape moving forward.

I'm starting to believe in dorsey

jonzie04 10-19-2014 11:05 PM

http://www.predictionmachine.com/Str...edule-Rankings

According to this, the chiefs have had the hardest schedule in the NFL so far this season. Last updated 10/15

Ragged Robin 10-19-2014 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11032353)
This team is in good shape moving forward.

I'm starting to believe in dorsey

No receivers and Dee Ford is an empty jersey. Andy is getting the most out of the heap of scrap he's been dealt with.

Direckshun 10-19-2014 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11032353)
This team is in good shape moving forward.

I'm starting to believe in dorsey

I am too. Pretty impressive work.

listopencil 10-19-2014 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11031991)
I don't think Denver will lose again, so I'm saying 15

Although I always try not to get too high or low, week to week.

I just don't see a team that can defend Denver

Our O-Line is still suspect, they are inconsistent both mentally and physically. We started a new RT in Paul Cornick tonight and he had some obvious **** ups. Our Center, Ramirez, is not playing as well as he has in the past. Our LT, Clady, is coming back from injury and he hasn't been the same guy. Manning can make up for that stuff to a degree but they need to play better.
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jonzie04 10-19-2014 11:26 PM

Abdullah, parker, Fleming, Schwartz, cooper, Sherman, James Michael Johnson, mauga, Mays, jaye Howard, Avery, half of our o line this year. Joe McKnight, that person of Hispanic heritage that just kicked the game winning field goal, and that Coleman feller that just sealed the game with a pick...

Direckshun 10-19-2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11032403)
Abdullah, parker, Fleming, Schwartz, cooper, Sherman, James Michael Johnson, mauga, Mays, jaye Howard, Avery, half of our o line this year. Joe McKnight, that person of Hispanic heritage that just kicked the game winning field goal, and that Coleman feller that just sealed the game with a pick...

Don't forget The Beard.

Hammock Parties 10-19-2014 11:39 PM

and here we go

the tides of hope are rising

Direckshun 10-19-2014 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11032422)
and here we go

the tides of hope are rising

There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth: hope.

Every man who has ventured here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy... So simple...

And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying.

I learned here that there can be no true despair without hope.

So, as the Chiefs terrorize ChiefsPlanet, they will feed its people hope to poison their souls.

They will let CP believe it can survive so that Clay can watch us clamoring over each other to "stay in the sun."

Clay can watch them torture an entire board.

And when the season is ashes, Clay will have my permission to troll.

tk13 10-19-2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11032427)
There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth: hope.

Every man who has ventured here over the centuries has looked up to the light and imagined climbing to freedom. So easy... So simple...

And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying.

I learned here that there can be no true despair without hope.

So, as the Chiefs terrorize ChiefsPlanet, they will feed its people hope to poison their souls.

They will let CP believe it can survive so that Clay can watch us clamoring over each other to "stay in the sun."

Clay can watch them torture an entire board.

And when the season is ashes, Clay will have my permission to troll.

This is probably your best post. You should probably retire now.

Hammock Parties 10-19-2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11032427)
Clay can watch them torture an entire board.

And when the season is ashes, Clay will have my permission to troll.


http://i.imgur.com/d1I7DPQm.jpg

Direckshun 10-19-2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11032429)
This is probably your best post. You should probably retire now.

So long as I score more points than you, I'll win!

Hammock Parties 10-19-2014 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11032434)
So long as I score more points than you, I'll win!

Pretty sure you are 3-33-1 against tk13

Direckshun 10-20-2014 12:00 AM

That sounds like a made up stat.

tk13 10-20-2014 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11032434)
So long as I score more points than you, I'll win!

This result is unlikely. You are too much of a game manager.

OldSchool 10-20-2014 12:26 AM

If we go 9-7 and tied with another 9-7 team for the last spot, isn't SOS the tie breaker?

Direckshun 10-20-2014 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11032469)
If we go 9-7 and tied with another 9-7 team for the last spot, isn't SOS the tie breaker?

Who are we talking about? A team in our division or not?

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Direckshun 10-20-2014 12:30 AM

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1.If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2.If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
1.Head-to-head, if applicable.
2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4.Strength of victory.
5.Strength of schedule.
6.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8.Best net points in conference games.
9.Best net points in all games.
10.Best net touchdowns in all games.
11.Coin toss.

Direckshun 10-20-2014 12:32 AM

What's "Strength of Victory"? Average point margin?

OldSchool 10-20-2014 12:35 AM

I assume it means how many good teams you beat vs scrub teams?

Direckshun 10-20-2014 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11032477)
I assume it means how many good teams you beat vs scrub teams?

That's strength of schedule.

What's strength of victory?

mdchiefsfan 10-20-2014 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11032476)
What's "Strength of Victory"? Average point margin?

I am guessing yes.

petegz28 10-20-2014 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11031922)
In the last three years, 9-7 gets you in 2/3s of the time.

so 60% of the time, it works every time??

milkman 10-20-2014 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11032353)
This team is in good shape moving forward.

I'm starting to believe in dorsey

Not me.
I don't believe he can stick to the running game over the course of the next 10 games.

He just won't be able to help himself.
Dumbassery is just in his DNA.

O.city 10-20-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11032684)
Not me.
I don't believe he can stick to the running game over the course of the next 10 games.

He just won't be able to help himself.
Dumbassery is just in his DNA.

Apparently you don't believe in reading comprehension either?

o:-)

Mother****erJones 10-20-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11032001)
It's be nice to have 10 wins rolling into that charger game. It's conceivable, but not probable

It'd

Mother****erJones 10-20-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11032684)
Not me.
I don't believe he can stick to the running game over the course of the next 10 games.

He just won't be able to help himself.
Dumbassery is just in his DNA.

Dorsey bud. Not Reid.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-20-2014 08:19 AM

There's not a team out there we can't beat. We need coach to do his job. We should get healthier as the season moves forward.

Why Not? 10-20-2014 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 11031996)
Chiefs Schedule:
vs Rams - W
vs Jets - W
@ Bills - ??
vs Seahawks - ??
@ Raiders - W
vs Broncos - ??
@ Cardinals - ??
vs. Raiders - W
@ Steelers - ??
vs Chargers - ??

Chargers Schedule:
@ Broncos - ??
@ Dolphins - W
vs. Raiders - W
vs Rams - W
@ Ravens - ??
vs Patriots - ??
vs Broncos - ??
@ 49ers - ??
@ Chiefs - ??

I get the feeling both the Chargers and us will be neck and neck week 17 fighting for a WC spot. That game is going to be insane.


No ? Necessary for San Diego next week. Short week, injury ravaged defense, Denver on a roll(Manning doesn't do regular season let down games). As of now, I would take Miami to beat them as well. If not for their dumb coach and a brilliant play by Aaron Rodgers, Miami would be considered one of the top teams right now.

OldSchool 10-20-2014 08:44 AM

Either Dorsey has been great at signing low end FAs who can actually be quality contributors, or the coaching staff is much better than we give them credit for.

I would say that it's a combination of both. They're making chicken salad out of mostly chicken shit.

RINGLEADER 10-20-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11031915)
We still have San Diego again and Pittsburgh (that are .500 or above). Two very winnable games.

But for sure, in this tough NFL in this tough division, the Chiefs are going to have be perfect the rest of the way to even sniff a playoff spot.

Said it on another thread - we don't get away from the rush and the receivers don't drop big play passes and we can beat every team remaining on our schedule.

OldSchool 10-20-2014 09:13 AM

The Seahawks game doesn't look nearly as daunting. They can be run on and should be run on. Bills game we should win, it's Kyle ****ing Orton at QB.

Cardinals aren't invincible, the pass rush should be able to get to Palmer who is a statue back there.

Steelers will be tougher due to their offense but we should be able to score on them. I fully expect Houston and Hali to have multiple sacks in that game as well.

Chargers couldn't beat us in their own home, they're going to walk into Arrowhead and take a game there? Come on.

If Berry can get healthy, we should be in even better shape defensively once he and Mays comes back.

TEX 10-20-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11031898)
Interesting things to think about....

Chargers have 2 games left against under .500 teams
Broncos have 3 games left against under .500 teams (+1 against Buffalo)
Chiefs have 4 games games left against under .500 teams (+1 against Buffalo)

Crazy thing is, the Titans are the only team the Chiefs have played so far that is under .500. If Denver wins today (and they probably will), that means the Chiefs have played 4 out of 6 games against teams that are 5-2. That's nuts to think the Chiefs are 3-3 right now, especially given the string of bad luck they've had.


Yep. Now compare home games vs away games thus far...Start with Denver and try not to laugh...

Steron 10-20-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11031919)
9-7 is hardly a guarantee. They need to get to 10-6.

Ask the 2013 Arizona Cardinals if that is the case.

ThaVirus 10-20-2014 09:37 AM

The AFC is pretty weak compared to the NFC, but there's no telling what will happen over the next ten weeks.

The we'll likely be fighting it out with either Baltimore or Cinci and San Diego. All three of those teams have a pretty significant leg up on us at this point so we've got to make up some ground. No more faltering. We need to win the games we should win and steal another one or two while we're at it.

10-6 is still no guarantee. I'm afraid 9-7 may not do the trick either.

ThaVirus 10-20-2014 09:43 AM

AFC West schedule comparisons
 
The good news is we've actually looked pretty decent.

We just took it to SD in their own house. Having them week 17 could be a win-and-you're-in situation @KC. Home field could favor us.

We ALWAYS play the Steelers tough and they're not even good this year. There's a good chance they have nothing to play for by the time we get a crack at them.

The Seahawks are sucking it up and we've got them in KC. That's one we'll need to steal because, although I think the Hawks are a better team, I don't think we'll be able to get a W I'm ARZ.

Denver is a loss. We can't beat Peyton. Just mark that as an L already.

****ing Buffalo. We'd better beat those guys but we struggle with them in years they go 3-13, now they're 4-3 with a capable QB. Their defensive line will rape us; I'm expecting to give up about 5 or 6 sacks that day. Good news is: Spiller will be out and Fred Jackson is banged up.

Two games against the Raiders LMAO Lets get those Ws.

The Rams and Jets the next two weeks? We have absolutely no reason not to win those two and be sitting at 5-3 by the holidays.

Gonzo 10-20-2014 09:58 AM

I think we all figured 6-10 on the year back in August, didn't we? (Especially after all the injuries) I think that if they play like they did yesterday, 9-7 could be doable. 8-8 more likely, 7-9 or 6-10 a definite possibility. Things need to align just right for a WC game but I'm not very hopeful.

Mile High Mania 10-20-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11032980)
Yep. Now compare home games vs away games thus far...Start with Denver and try not to laugh...

I hated the early bye and home games, 6 of next 8 are on the road. It evens out.


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