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SeeingRed 05-05-2014 07:52 PM

WR Fan Poll On KCChiefs.com Selects Brandin Cooks
 
41% of 258 voters thus far select Brandin Cooks as the top WR prospect over Beckham Jr. and Lee.

Check it out...cool little piece on Cooks. I think hoping he falls to #23 is a bit of wishful thinking to be honest, but i wouldnt upset with this pick if he fell to us.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...0-54ce01053c6e

Thoughts on Cooks?

Ragged Robin 05-05-2014 08:06 PM

I'm not sold on Beckham, Lee, or Cooks being true #1s at all. I hope they trade down to pick up a 2nd rounder and maybe a 3rd or 4th (whatever that equates to) and then pick up two receivers like Jordan Matthews and Kevin Norwood or if Davante Adams or Moncrief are still there.

planetdoc 05-05-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10603892)
I'm not sold on Beckham, Lee, or Cooks being a true #1s at all. I hope they trade down to pick up a 2nd rounder and maybe a 3rd or 4th (whatever that equates to) and then pick up two receivers like Jordan Matthews and Kevin Norwood or if Davante Adams or Moncrief are still there.

agree

OldSchool 05-05-2014 08:19 PM

Give me Matthews, Robinson, Adams, Latimer, or Moncrief in the 2nd after a trade back.

SeeingRed 05-05-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10603892)
I'm not sold on Beckham, Lee, or Cooks being true #1s at all. I hope they trade down to pick up a 2nd rounder and maybe a 3rd or 4th (whatever that equates to) and then pick up two receivers like Jordan Matthews and Kevin Norwood or if Davante Adams or Moncrief are still there.

According to what Rich Cimini writer from ESPN New York is saying none of those top WRs will be there anyway at #23 so trading down for an extra pick might make alot of sense. :hmmm:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9403/odell-beckham

Dayze 05-06-2014 05:30 AM

this isn't directed at anyone, but when the phrase 'trade down' is used, I always wonder why that is considered such an easy deal. I guess my point is, it's probably harder to just trade down with anyone all willy nilly.

...if that makes any damned sense.

BigBeauford 05-06-2014 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10604560)
this isn't directed at anyone, but when the phrase 'trade down' is used, I always wonder why that is considered such an easy deal. I guess my point is, it's probably harder to just trade down with anyone all willy nilly.

...if that makes any damned sense.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/6V9QtRcwg84/maxresdefault.jpg

Dayze 05-06-2014 05:45 AM

"dude....'willy nillly' is so hard to say right now."


I'm just saying the phrase trade down is used quite often, but that assumes there's someone that is interested in trading up. Lots of variables in that IMO.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-06-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 10604566)

That is seriously how I picture Dayze

planetdoc 05-06-2014 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10604560)
this isn't directed at anyone, but when the phrase 'trade down' is used, I always wonder why that is considered such an easy deal. I guess my point is, it's probably harder to just trade down with anyone all willy nilly.

...if that makes any damned sense.

because trades in the area that the chiefs pick (23) have historically happened.
trades:
2013: picks 3, 8, 12, 13, 16, 18, 22, 25, 29, 30, 31
2012: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,12, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 25, 27, 29 31
2011: 6, 10, 16, 17, 21, 26, 27, 28
2010: 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 22, 24, 25, 27, 28, 30

ToxSocks 05-06-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10604560)
this isn't directed at anyone, but when the phrase 'trade down' is used, I always wonder why that is considered such an easy deal. I guess my point is, it's probably harder to just trade down with anyone all willy nilly.

...if that makes any damned sense.

I agree. Every year it's "trade down, trade down trade down". Everyone would prefer the Chiefs to trade down. I'm sure the Chiefs would prefer to trade down too. Hell, half the league would probably prefer to trade down. But who's to say that option is even on the table? A team has to want to trade UP in order for the Chiefs to trade down.

I'd prefer to entertain the idea of who will be available @23, rather than worry about any sort of trade down scenario.

Chiefs=Champions 05-06-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10603892)
I'm not sold on Beckham, Lee, or Cooks being true #1s at all. I hope they trade down to pick up a 2nd rounder and maybe a 3rd or 4th (whatever that equates to) and then pick up two receivers like Jordan Matthews and Kevin Norwood or if Davante Adams or Moncrief are still there.

Why? Because they are small? I don't buy that argument at all and neither does history.

ToxSocks 05-06-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 10604864)
Why? Because they are small? I don't buy that argument at all and neither does history.

I agree.

Cooks is small, but he is so much more fluid then those others he listed. Cooks is a natural receiver. He has play maker written all over him. Moncrief might be big, but he doesn't look like a natural pass catcher, he catches with his body.

Big WR's don't = Good Wr's.

Small WR's don't = Bad WR's.

TEX 05-06-2014 10:32 AM

Cooks' stock is rising. Other teams know this. I doubt he's there when the Chiefs pick. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes just before the Chiefs pick.

Kiimo 05-06-2014 10:35 AM

If Cooks is available he if far and away the best pick and I'd be ecstatic if we could get him. People are afraid of him being Dexter McCluster but I see more Percy Harvin than Dex.

He's a home-run hitter and we need that. He runs excellent routes and he's dangerous in space. He's perfect for this offense.

The Franchise 05-06-2014 10:38 AM

Anybody who compares Brandin Cooks to Dexter McCluster needs to be shot in the head.

RealSNR 05-06-2014 10:41 AM

Cooks has a far greater chance of being Steve Smith than he does Dexter McCluster.

I know I've posted this like 6000 times on this forum, but it bears repeating.

KC native 05-06-2014 12:32 PM

Well, ****. I wanted Cooks but since our fan base is ****ing reeruned for the most part, I'm beginning to doubt whether we should draft him (if he's available) because our fans rate him the best in that poll.

*sadface*

ToxSocks 05-06-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10605212)
Well, ****. I wanted Cooks but since our fan base is ****ing reeruned for the most part, I'm beginning to doubt whether we should draft him (if he's available) because our fans rate him the best in that poll.

*sadface*

Don't worry, he probably won't be there @ 23 anyway.

saphojunkie 05-06-2014 12:39 PM

I do think it's worth noting that only 3 of the top 15 WR last year were under 6'2. This is both in yards and TD.

YARDS: Antonio Brown (2), Pierre Garcon (8), and Desean Jackson (9).

TD: Wes Welker, Jerricho Cotchery (tied 10th) and Desean Jackson (tied 14th)



Now, maybe top 15 is arbitrary. Maybe 6'2 is arbitrary. Maybe there are just far more tall WR and it is more about quantity than quality.

ToxSocks 05-06-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10605239)
I do think it's worth noting that only 3 of the top 15 WR last year were under 6'2. This is both in yards and TD.

YARDS: Antonio Brown (2), Pierre Garcon (8), and Desean Jackson (9).

TD: Wes Welker, Jerricho Cotchery (tied 10th) and Desean Jackson (tied 14th)



Now, maybe top 15 is arbitrary. Maybe 6'2 is arbitrary. Maybe there are just far more tall WR and it is more about quantity than quality.

It may just be that there are far fewer GOOD small wr's in the league.

Dayze 05-06-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10604697)
That is seriously how I picture Dayze

LMAO


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