Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick
 

Alex Smith v2.0

kiss that green rep good bye :)

:facepalm:

Dumbest comparison of all-time. Do tell Como, how do they compare exactly? Should be easy for you to break this down.

rep color should red anyways.....neg rep should be Raiders black.

well they have the same last name

The good news is, now that he has said this, Geno is definitely worth a #1 pick.

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WTF dude, you got a bad hangover or something?

You're right. You're so ****ing right that it is scary. Your logic is impeccable. The evidence that you have presented unequivocally proves your position is the correct one.

I'm not necessarily anti-Geno.....I just don't think he's worth the 1st overall pick.

Title of thread should be: Herp. OP should be: derp.

Just take a 1st rd QB.. At this point, that would be serious progress for this shit Organization.

Yet you believe a 3-4 ILB is worthy of the 1st overall pick.

Nobody does right now. Wait until after the combine, it will change.

He'll be sitting alone in a near empty Arrowhead sporting a mullet and a Teo jersey.

Yeah, Geno looked like ****ing dogshit on Sat.

But he's probably the best QB in the draft, so you burn a 1st rounder. You HAVE to. This franchise HAS to draft a 1st rd QB. Even if he goes belly-up and busts...

If I were the incoming GM, I'd sign Alex Smith, trade for Matt Flynn, AND draft Geno...and open up an honest QB competition in camp.

And let the actual best person do the job...

You realize that I was being sarcastic right? I'm fully on the Geno bandwagon. I do agree with you that we need 3 new QBs.

I was thinking more like David Carr or Joey Harrington

Maybe even Akili Smith, but I don't want everybody to call me a racist.

Poor man's Campbell or Leftwich....or Culpepper. All relevant.

racist.

On what was probably Geno's third worst game of the season, he went 16/24 for 197 yards and 2 TDs with 0 INTs.

He wasn't quite as accurate as usual and didn't have much success downfield (in part because of Syracuse's pass rush), but he still made very few mistakes.

Given more time to pass and what we've seen of his downfield accuracy in other games, I'm still fully aboard the Geno wagon.

Jason Campbell actually is the perfect comparison to Geno Smith....race and all other things considered of course.

Aling with a couple Safities, a CB, nickel back, an ILB, some DEs, an O-line, WRs and backup RB.

Prolly a TE too, depending on Boss.

Are you saying that Geno grades out perfectly??

Nobody does stupid like Como, nobody.

As a matter of fact one time he agreed with something I agreed with and I had to re-think the entire concept. That is the power of Como.

Did I mention thats just one letter from Homo? NTAWWT

I'll bite - he even looks a bit like Campbell, in their throwing motion and pocket presence.

Real similar QBs, when you mention it.

Campbell might be a decent comparison.

What ever happened to Blackboob? Banned shamed and shunned or???

Probably rehashing old childhood horrors...

Reliving his nightmare on a daily basis.

Oh no you didn't....

ROFL

If dogshit is a 163 rating in a blizzard and being tripped in the endzone I am in.

What does it mean

Ram families bring their house to the tree?

What the **** is that about

Lol.

Come on CoMo, you can't make a statement like that and not say who your pick would be.

If you say Manti Te'o, we are all going to murder your soul.

Too late. Soul murdered too.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268314

He already did say Manti Te`o in his other stupid thread.

You have now gone full reerun. You about to get got :#

Jason Campbell threw for 45 TDs and 25 INTs during his college career.

Geno only threw for three fewer TDs in this year alone while keeping his INTs at 6 for the year.

Do you want Geno's college career stats? 98 TDs with only 21 INTs.

Yep. Great comparison...

Got tired of all the abuse he got. Realized that we enjoyed calling him "dumbass" far more than he enjoyed trolling.

Yeah, that's ALMOST as bad as Slowmo's comparison to Leftwich....almost.

Give him credit. He didn't compare him to another black QB. He did Alex Smith first.

there still a lot of stuff to learn about these QBs before the draft. The combine will also be very telling, that is, can these QBs make all the throws, etc. As of now, I kind of agree in that I don't see Geno as a #1 QB draft pick, but then again, what choice does kc really have?

I can respect the 'Geno has demonstrated the skill set to justify a #1 pick' take.

Less so the 'just get a QB already, if he fails just try again' crowd.

This league is all about trying to find an elite QB.

The justification behind the latter stance is firmly rooted in solid logic. The new CBA renders the old "drafting the wrong QB sets your franchise back years" idea completely obsolete.

Geno has demonstrated the skill set AND if he fails, just try again.

MANTI!!!

None, really.

The combine is a double edged sword. For some reason, the national media has taken to stats as the contributing factor as to how a player plays. Some guy swill rise tremendously due to great workouts, and others will fall becasue of them. I'm of the belief that you have to trust what you see on the game tape over what they show working out in gym shorts.

Case in point - Jared Allen only benched 225 like 14 times, or some such low-ish number at the combine. Show me a team that wouldn't want him on their roster today.

That effort goes beyond 'are you a QB and are you declaring yourself draft eligible?'

Due diligence is ALWAYS owed to determine

1. Is this guy set up to be a success
2. Is he better than any other QB available to our organization
3. Is he better than all other draft picks.

I would say sam bradford

The combine will work a lot of this bullshit out.

Brilliant!!

Geno is a 1st round QB. I have no doubt in my mind. He will be a damn good NFL QB if not top tier.
We have a 1st round selection and I don't care what position it is, 1st overall, 10th or 32nd. If you have the opportunity to grab him, you ****ing take it.

If he ends up being dogshit, fine. Do it again and again until you get it right. Don't get gunshy, (like this franchise did after Blackledge) because that's how you win in this league, (unless you luck out and get a Manning via FA because he wants to bump peni with Elway).

See:
Packers
Giants
Redskins
Ravens
49ers
Etc. etc. etc.

You'll change your tune once Yeldon and Lacey run him over. Geno is worth any pick in any round but it's whoever gets him first, might as well with the first overall pick or the Jags might do it or trade down so someone else can do it.

In Geno's case:

1. Yes
2. Are you ****ing shitting me? Yes.
3. Yes

Looks like a winner.

And I would say that Tyler Wilson is a "yes" to all three questions as well

See, for me those two statements fail the smell test.

This widget is EXACTLY what you need, I unequivocally guarantee it.

What if it isn't?

Oh well, then go get something else.

Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Don't you have to go clean out the commodes in Foxboro today or something?

I agree with QB or bust, but there are a few elite players in this draft. Way too much speculation before the combine and end of bowl season.

I admit I only know of Mingo and Richardson. I suppose they have the potential. But having the look isn't enough.

Why, why, WHY are the fans of this team so absolutely petrified of developing a quarterback of their own? Afaid we might have a couple of "down years"?

Someone should put together a lowlight video of every college QB so we don't have to draft a QB!

Pfew! That was scary! We almost had to take a risk on something!

Beat me to it. Good post.

I don't know who you have me confused with but:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200220

and

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203348

How wrong I was. :) Yall wanted the ****er(s), now it appears you're stuck with the worst of the worst. hahaha

I'm not sure that Geno Smith is worthy of the #1 pick but I do remember people saying similar stuff about RGIII last year. Many people thought RGIII was going to drop to the Chiefs pick at this time last year. The closer the draft got the higher RGIII was rated. I'm not saying that Geno is going to move up the same as RGIII but there may be another QB that everyone falls in love with later.

dont forget he puked all over himself and caused his team to suffer two, count them TWO safetys in one game! The biggest game of his career and he laid an egg against the MIGHTY SYRACUSE and their incredible 8-5 record. National powerhouse team. Lets go jump on a guy that folds in the sight of a big game. Hell going 5-0 to start the season created enough pressure to push him to a 2-5 finish. At least his defense could be blamed for a lot of that flame out. His collapse in the bowl game was proof of HIS ineptitude. We need to pass on geno "joey harrington" smith. He would be worth the third round pick he is worthy of because he has upside and with some seasoning could be a decent backup. Of course he will probably throw a grapefruit 80 yards from his knees during private workouts and people will go crazy like they
did with jamarcus. Geno #1 overall is a flipping joke. I have no clue who should be #1 at this point, but geno isnt it.

Ambuehl not being on our side is a bonus guys. He's Como Jr.

Jamarcus didn't throw a grapefruit 80 yards from his knees.

What about Geno reminds you of Harrington?

did teo ever make a mistake this year?

Miss a tackle? Flow himself out of a play? Trip and fall down?


Yes on all. **** him e can't draft a player that ever made a mistake
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There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.

Yeah, let's blame Geno for shitty playcalling, playing in a blizzard, and having one of the worst defenses in the country.

He doesn't have the national pull that Luck and RGIII did. Must not be worthy of the top pick. Brilliant.

I guess you missed where Geno went to Norman and put up 49 on the Sooners in their house?

Domer has been to busy giving dome to know what a qb looks like.

Please don't berate me now Burt, sorry if I hurt bubby's feelings
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But he gave up that last score and caused the loss...


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Your way of "managing the draft" would net us a quarterback that has a lower ceiling than Geno. Pass.

Just for shits and giggles, who IS worth the #1 pick this year?

Why do people continue to propagate this revisionist history.

Luck and RGIII were never anything but 1&2 in the draft. The only commotion was 'sure Luck is a can't miss, once in a generation, no brainer, franchise QB, but is it possible that RGIII is JUST AS GOOD, . . . or BETTER?'