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jAZ 10-16-2012 10:09 AM

Andy Reid
 
Speculation that he'll be out in Philly after this year.

Would you want him as the HC here in KC ... considering any other REALISTIC alternative options you expect are likely to exist (ie, don't consider Sean Payton, Jimmy Johnson, or any other unrealistic HC option).

The Franchise 10-16-2012 10:09 AM

**** no.

suds79 10-16-2012 10:10 AM

I think Andy Reid is a really good coach.

Seems to always get the most out of QBs.

BigMeatballDave 10-16-2012 10:10 AM

No, because that mother****er would want to bring Vick with him.

CoMoChief 10-16-2012 10:11 AM

Absolutely....and draft Geno Smith

GordonGekko 10-16-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9020045)
**** no.

Seconded.

No more re-tread hand me down coaches. Reid should take his $millions and retire.

The Franchise 10-16-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9020054)
No, because that mother****er would want to bring Vick with him.

I don't think he would. I think he'd use it as a chance to separate himself from Vick. I don't want him because he doesn't know how to run the ****ing ball at all. Dude has McCoy and gets him maybe 15 carries a game.

Brock 10-16-2012 10:12 AM

I don't hate the idea.

Silock 10-16-2012 10:13 AM

There are much worse choices.

DaKCMan AP 10-16-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9020063)
I don't think he would. I think he'd use it as a chance to separate himself from Vick. I don't want him because he doesn't know how to run the ****ing ball at all. Dude has McCoy and gets him maybe 15 carries a game.

This.

suds79 10-16-2012 10:14 AM

Think about what this guy has done.

The inaccurate McNabb, went to a SB. Resurrected Michael Vicks career before he turned back into a pumpkin (injury prone & turns the ball over). Had us thinking we missed on Nick Foles for a bit there.

boogblaster 10-16-2012 10:14 AM

maybe .. if he'd hire a QB in the first round ..

ChiTown 10-16-2012 10:16 AM

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/125293...ting-vomit.gif

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:17 AM

He would be on my short list because he knows how to draft and develop quarterbacks.

Color aside, Geno is a much better version of McNabb and AR got the most out of Donovan.

BlackHelicopters 10-16-2012 10:17 AM

No. smh

Chiefspants 10-16-2012 10:18 AM

Marty 2.0 (In terms of his inability to win the big one)

The Franchise 10-16-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9020097)
He would be on my short list because he knows how to draft and develop quarterbacks.

Color aside, Geno is a better version of McNabb and AR got the most out of Donovan.

That would be the only positive that I could see.

Rasputin 10-16-2012 10:19 AM

I feel bad for him for his family issues but that's also why I don't want him. I think he needs take a break from football personally. At some point he is going be an emotional wreck because he uses football as a gateway from reallity of whats going on with his family.

Titty Meat 10-16-2012 10:22 AM

Yes.

The Franchise 10-16-2012 10:24 AM

I'd take Mike McCoy over him.

jspchief 10-16-2012 10:25 AM

He refuses to run the ball.

Titty Meat 10-16-2012 10:25 AM

Yeah McCoy is #1 on my list. Reid would be 2 or 3.

CaliforniaChief 10-16-2012 10:26 AM

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

DaKCMan AP 10-16-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020142)
Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

David Shaw? Really?

Rob Ryan? Really?

Easy 6 10-16-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9020075)
There are much worse choices.

This.

If he would commit to the run a bit more, i'd be fine with it... he'd bring this O out of the stone age.

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:27 AM

Another negative working against Reid would be that his defensive philosophy doesn't really mesh with the qualities of our current players on defense very well.

If he would be OK with hiring a 3-4 zone blitzing DC, Id be fully on board.

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020142)
Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5 Mike McCoy

**** this list with meccas old toilet brush...well, except for McCoy and MAYBE Jay Gruden...but Im not sure either of them is ready.

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2012 10:29 AM

:Lin:

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:30 AM

Why dont you like Andy Reid, Dane?

memyselfI 10-16-2012 10:32 AM

Too much Marv Levy and Marty. No thanks.

CaliforniaChief 10-16-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9020149)
David Shaw? Really?

Rob Ryan? Really?

Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

BlackHelicopters 10-16-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020142)
Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

Perry Fewell deserves a look.

Johnny Vegas 10-16-2012 10:35 AM

I think its too early in the season to use McCoy 25-30 times a game. Not till November and December will I expect more production out of McCoy. Its just the right time of season to throw the long ball. That said I'd really like him as HC. Will it happen? not a chance.

DaKCMan AP 10-16-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InterruptingCow (Post 9020173)
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No one asked you, freemartin.

DaKCMan AP 10-16-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020176)
Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

Do you not watch Shaw's abominable coaching last week?

The Cowboys are in the bottom half of the league in scoring defense.

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020176)
Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

The #1 gripe Dallas fans have with Ryan is that he doesn't coach aggressive defenses. they are begging for him to call more blitzes...sound similar?

BossChief 10-16-2012 10:39 AM

Wouldnt Reid also want some GM control?

Sofa King 10-16-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9020089)

LMAO

This^

malachi47000 10-16-2012 10:49 AM

Need a new GM, otherwise Pioli won't get anyone worthy of a head coach....

Bump 10-16-2012 10:50 AM

no thanks on him

warpaint* 10-16-2012 10:59 AM

I think he's decent but overrated. Not enough balance in his offense. Jim Johnson was the man behind those defenses he had. No thanks I'll pass.

saphojunkie 10-16-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020142)
Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

I'd way rather have Kevin Gilbride than Perry Fewell and his 4-3 conversion. Until last week, the Giants were #1 in the league for yards per attempt.

Oh, and I second Rob Ryan, because I'd love to see our defense with that 1-gap 3-4. That said, I think he is the polar opposite of what Clark is looking for in a HC.

Brock 10-16-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9020305)
I'd way rather have Kevin Gilbride and his 9.2 yards per completion than Perry Fewell and his 4-3 conversion.

Oh, and I second Rob Ryan, because I'd love to see our defense with that 1-gap 3-4. That said, I think he is the polar opposite of what Clark is looking for in a HC.

Oh yeah, he's done a fantastic job with Dallas' defense. :doh!:

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:04 AM

I'm on board.

He fits of the trend of successful coaches who have never won a Super Bowl.

Those guys go to other teams and win Super Bowls.

Example:

Tom Coughlin
Dick Vermeil
Tony Dungy
Bill Belichick
Jon Gruden
Mike Shanahan
Don Shula

Andy Reid has one of the highest winning percentages in NFL history, with multiple quarterbacks, and his offenses have almost always been productive. And he's only 54.

I would like him to lose 50 lbs.

Brock 10-16-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020330)
I'm on board.

He fits of the trend of successful coaches who have never won a Super Bowl.

Those guys go to other teams and win Super Bowls.

Example:

Tom Coughlin
Dick Vermeil
Tony Dungy
Bill Belichick
Jon Gruden
Mike Shanahan
Don Shula

So did Romeo Crennel!

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9020140)
He refuses to run the ball.

Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE ****ING WELCOME.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9020333)
So did Romeo Crennel!

Romeo Crennel was a successful HEAD COACH somewhere?

In what universe? Alternate reality NFL? X Dimension?

Those guys were all successful head coaches somewhere else before they went to their 2nd team and won big. I guess Shanahan wasn't. Whatever.

Brock 10-16-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020355)
Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE ****ING WELCOME.

A coach who realizes the importance of never stopping looking for QBs would be too.

Brock 10-16-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020359)
Romeo Crennel was a successful HEAD COACH somewhere?

In what universe? Alternate reality NFL? X Dimension?

He had about the same amount of success as Belichick or Shanahan did. I don't buy any that "trend" BS.

The Franchise 10-16-2012 11:13 AM

Is he my first choice? No.

Would I be upset? Meh.

the Talking Can 10-16-2012 11:14 AM

yeah, let's bring in a burn out...

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9020367)
He had about the same amount of success as Belichick or Shanahan did. I don't buy any that "trend" BS.

OK, those were probably bad examples.

The rest ring true.

It's better than hiring Cowher, for sure.

I'd prefer to strike gold with a Sean Payton type, but Reid would be acceptable if he doesn't keel over from BBQ abuse.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:15 AM

Won't happen because the Eagles would be fools to let him go.

bowener 10-16-2012 11:17 AM

When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?

Sorter 10-16-2012 11:18 AM

I would love to have Reid as an OC and QB coach. I'm not sure if he would be willing to do that.

However, a Mike Zimmer HC and an Andy Reid OC doesn't sound terrible to me.

Sorter 10-16-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9020388)
When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?

Most would, IMO.

jspchief 10-16-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020355)
Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE ****ING WELCOME.

Michael Vick yo.

Take his 40 runs out of the equation and where do they rank?

The Franchise 10-16-2012 11:26 AM

The Eagles are 10th in rushing yards with 732.

Vick has 205 rushing yards.

Without Vick they would be 20th in the league in rushing yards.

Brock 10-16-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9020406)
Michael Vick yo.

Take his 40 runs out of the equation and where do they rank?

McCoy is top 10 in yards. I agree he should have more, though.

DaKCMan AP 10-16-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9020420)
The Eagles are 10th in rushing yards with 732.

Vick has 205 rushing yards.

Without Vick they would be 20th in the league in rushing yards.

Further, if you take away Vick's rushes they are 27th in the league in rushing attempts per game.

1ChiefsDan 10-16-2012 11:38 AM

I want a real ****ing coaching search conducted. Said the same thing last year. Do a search and find the BEST candidate.

Woodchuck 10-16-2012 11:41 AM

I'll take Reid but he probably won't take a QB early unless he is in love with them. He'll probably go d-line. He loves to move up and take linemen. Just make sure you are ready for that if we hire Reid.


But, the guy does know QBs.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:42 AM

Rushing attempts and rushing yards are irrelevant in 2012.

Get a QB.

And a fat bastard to lead the team.

Worked for GB.

Hammock Parties 10-16-2012 11:42 AM

Jamaal Charles would rape in a pass-first offense getting 60 catches and 200 rushes a year.

Wide open running lanes in 4 wide.

CaliforniaChief 10-16-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020476)
Jamaal Charles would rape in a pass-first offense getting 60 catches and 200 rushes a year.

Wide open running lanes in 4 wide.

Agreed. It's a miracle that Charles gets what he does with the abysmal passing offense of this team. We need to open things up. Receivers flying all over the field, a QB with a smart enough mind and strong enough arm to fling it all over the place, and guys like Charles/DMC in the flat? Yes, please.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-16-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020142)
Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

JFC rochambeau

Pasta Little Brioni 10-16-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9020355)
Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE ****ING WELCOME.

Running QB dummy. It's not a myth.

whoman69 10-16-2012 01:30 PM

He's lost his way in Philly because he has had to take more of the burden in Philly after Jim Johnson died. He doesn't have the energy to do it anymore. It cost him his family. You can see it in his press conferences. He's a dead man walking who was forced to fire his DC or face firing himself. He won't have the energy to start all over in KC.

New World Order 10-16-2012 01:34 PM

Cowher would be my number 1 choice but I certainly would not mind Reid coming here

Dave Lane 10-16-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9020313)
Oh yeah, he's done a fantastic job with Dallas' defense. :doh!:

Rob Ryan is a ****ing loon to boot.

bricks 10-16-2012 01:38 PM

He would be on my list of candidates.

In comparison to the other head coaches this organization has hired over the past 7 years, Andy Reid is a ****ing genius.

At least he wins.

Thats the most important stat you gotta look at folks. The other 3 junks that have coached this team(Herm, Haley, Crennel) have a combined winning percentage of 41%.

*Lastly, this type of hire would address the issue that this franchise has faced over the 7 years which is inability to hire good head coaches.

Not having a good head coach has ****ed this team up over the years.

BossChief 10-16-2012 01:38 PM

Id probably say that conservatively speaking 80% of the importance going forward with the Chiefs is finding and developing a franchise quarterback.

Not many guys better at that than Andy Reid that will be available.

Quesadilla Joe 10-16-2012 01:41 PM

You wouldn't have to worry about him ruining Jamaal Charles.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-16-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9020753)
You wouldn't have to worry about him ruining Jamaal Charles.

The only thing Charles is going to ruin is that below average Donkey D sport.

qabbaan 10-16-2012 01:45 PM

No.

BossChief 10-16-2012 01:46 PM

Jamaal Charles has 4 more attempts than McCoy and the Eagles are 7th in rushing attempts in the NFL.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-16-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9020772)
Jamaal Charles has 4 more attempts than McCoy and the Eagles are 7th in rushing attempts in the NFL.

Michael Vick. Falcons were pretty much always number one when he was there.

vailpass 10-16-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9020176)
Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

If there is a fund being raised to ensure KC gets Stanford's coach I'll contribute whatever is necessary.

mcaj22 10-16-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9020746)
Id probably say that conservatively speaking 80% of the importance going forward with the Chiefs is finding and developing a franchise quarterback.

Not many guys better at that than Andy Reid that will be available.

this he makes any turd QB look average to decent in his scheme and flips them for players and picks

ill take that combo over what this team has been doing the last 4 years anyday

CaliforniaChief 10-16-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9020695)
JFC rochambeau

Ok, I'm just throwing out some names of guys that have caught my interest...who would you advocate for?


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