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ShowtimeSBMVP 07-04-2012 06:37 PM

Steve Nash to the Lakers
 
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Source confirms: The Suns are sending Steve Nash to the Lakers for draft picks.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 06:40 PM

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Titty Meat 07-04-2012 06:43 PM

What? They said a few hours ago he was going to the Knicks?

Jerm 07-04-2012 06:50 PM

Now time to trade Pau for Josh Smith....

Titty Meat 07-04-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8719064)
Now time to trade Bynum for Howard

This

Jerm 07-04-2012 06:52 PM

LOL I'd do that IF the drama queen would sign on...that'd be a sick team.

L.A. Chieffan 07-04-2012 06:54 PM

Grant is next

RealSNR 07-04-2012 06:56 PM

Good luck winning shit with that turd Mike Brown as HC

Jerm 07-04-2012 06:56 PM

I actually think Dwight might see the Lakers as an enticing option now...playing with Kobe and now Nash with a legit shot at a ring?

Come on now.

Titty Meat 07-04-2012 06:58 PM

Could the Lakers afford Howard AND Smith?

Nash
Kobe
Howard
Smith

That team would kick OKC's soft ass.

Buck 07-04-2012 06:58 PM

Championship.

Jerm 07-04-2012 07:09 PM

Long been whispers that Howard has wanted to play with Nash...the full court press will now be put on...

Titty Meat 07-04-2012 07:10 PM

Althought Gasol with Nash could be dope we've seen what Nash did with those bums on the Suns imagine what he could do with Bryant, Howard, and Gasol.


Lakers won.

BoneKrusher 07-04-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8719085)
Championship.

this^

Buck 07-04-2012 07:11 PM

inb4 Kobe bangs his wife for stealing his 2 MVP awards.

milkman 07-04-2012 07:14 PM

I'd be concerned that age will catch up with Nash.

It seems to suddenly just hit guys on the back ends of their careers.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-04-2012 07:16 PM

Nash is good for one maybe two more years. Makes sense though as the Lakers are always in "win now" mode.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 07:17 PM

lolol Knicks can't do anything right. What a garbage front office

ChiefsCountry 07-04-2012 07:39 PM

Good it will be awesome seeing LeBron and Wade beat the shit out of the Lakers in the Finals. Bring on the ratings!

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8719064)
Now time to trade Pau for Josh Smith....

Not with Nash it's not. Pau is a GREAT pick and roll big man. Nash is going to get him the ball in his spots.

Bynum now has to be moved for Dwight. Pau can't play with Bynum and Howard would swing the balance back to the Lakers in the West.

I saw a crazy stat just now. Lakers PGs scored 33 points and 17 assists TOTAL against OKC in games the Lakers lost.

Yeah, Nash's defense sucks, but it's no worse than Sessions or Blake. The offensive upgrade is huge.

Jerm 07-04-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8719151)
Not with Nash it's not. Pau is a GREAT pick and roll big man. Nash is going to get him the ball in his spots.

Bynum now has to be moved for Dwight. Pau can't play with Bynum and Howard would swing the balance back to the Lakers in the West.

I saw a crazy stat just now. Lakers PGs scored 33 points TOTAL in the OKC series.

Yeah, Nash's defense sucks, but it's no worse than Sessions or Blake. The offensive upgrade is huge.

Yeah you're right about Pau...I didn't even think about that, he'll be immense with Nash.

I agree about getting Howard, he and Nash running the Pick & Roll with Gasol and Kobe as other options? Pfffft ridiculous.

They do need another outside shooter now, I'd take a flyer on Rashard Lewis if he'd come cheap.

Buck 07-04-2012 07:45 PM

Nash can't make Pau any less soft on the boards.

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8719153)
Yeah you're right about Pau...I didn't even think about that, he'll be immense with Nash.

I agree about getting Howard, he and Nash running the Pick & Roll with Gasol and Kobe as other options? Pfffft ridiculous.

They do need another outside shooter now, I'd take a flyer on Rashard Lewis if he'd come cheap.

You're right, they do need some outside scoring.

I think Goudlock can provide some. I think they are also bringing in Grant Hill and he has an OK outside game.

I applaud Mitch again. Turned a disgruntled Lamar Odom and 3 draft picks into Steve Nash.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 07:46 PM

i hope the Lakers tell Ron Artest to take a ****ing hike and recruit guys like Grant Hill to replace him

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8719156)
Nash can't make Pau any less soft on the boards.

No, he can't, but he can make him a much more effective offensive player. If Howard goes there, Pau is going to have a much easier time.

Laker fans have forgotten what great PG play looks like with Phil's triangle.

Jerm 07-04-2012 07:47 PM

I love how everyone on Twitter and everywhere else is bringing up Nash's age...dude doesn't play like a 39 year old at all and is still in tremendous shape.

This move is only going to make him better...he'll be rejuvenated and feel younger.

I'll take a 39 year old Steve Nash over Ramon Sessions, Steve Blake, or anyone else at the point.

Pitt Gorilla 07-04-2012 07:53 PM

That's a lot of money for Nash.

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8719168)
That's a lot of money for Nash.

10 million less than NYK and Toronto were offering.

Titty Meat 07-04-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8719164)
I love how everyone on Twitter and everywhere else is bringing up Nash's age...dude doesn't play like a 39 year old at all and is still in tremendous shape.

This move is only going to make him better...he'll be rejuvenated and feel younger.

I'll take a 39 year old Steve Nash over Ramon Sessions, Steve Blake, or anyone else at the point.

This is why they need Howard.

Kobe, Gasol, and Nash are all old. Howard makes them a championship team but with Nash right now they'd lose in 7 to OKC.

CaliforniaChief 07-04-2012 07:58 PM

Great move by the Lakers. Hopefully the precursor to a big move.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-04-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8719174)
10 million less than NYK and Toronto were offering.

It's a no-brainer to choose LA over those teams. Smart move by Nash, dude wants to win a title.

Jerm 07-04-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8719178)
This is why they need Howard.

Kobe, Gasol, and Nash are all old. Howard makes them a championship team but with Nash right now they'd lose in 7 to OKC.

This is exactly why this is such a brilliant deal...it could land them Howard and an extension, who could play with those two and win a ring possibly and then take over when they retire.

Those draft picks even as first rounders will be late picks so it's not going to hurt too much.

Titty Meat 07-04-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8719182)
This is exactly why this is such a brilliant deal...it could land them Howard and an extension, who could play with those two and win a ring possibly and then take over when they retire.

Those draft picks even as first rounders will be late picks so it's not going to hurt too much.

Yeah those picks don't mean shit.


Now you got Nash who works well with Gasol but if you get Howard you could move Gasol for some nice bench players and a shooter? Or do you keep what you have (which still isn't bad at all).

DeezNutz 07-04-2012 08:05 PM

Don't understand the Lakers love for non-locals. I simply cannot fully embrace any team that isn't a part of my personal roots.

ChiefsCountry 07-04-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8719188)
Don't understand the Lakers love for non-locals. I simply cannot fully embrace any team that isn't a part of my personal roots.

I know for some its because of Peeler and Kareem Rush.

RealSNR 07-04-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8719188)
Don't understand the Lakers love for non-locals. I simply cannot fully embrace any team that isn't a part of my personal roots.

If I were you I wouldn't be a Chiefs fan.

Now normally that would be an enviable position, but my personal roots would have made me a Vikings fan.

I'll take Chiefs fan, thank you very much.

DeezNutz 07-04-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8719191)
I know for some its because of Peeler and Kareem Rush.

Peeler could ball. That makes some sense. I'm not anti-NBA, but it's just that I've never lived in an NBA city, so I don't claim a team.

Jerm 07-04-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8719188)
Don't understand the Lakers love for non-locals. I simply cannot fully embrace any team that isn't a part of my personal roots.

Since there's never been a local NBA team the first player I ever picked up on as a kid was Magic and I've been a Lakers fan since the first time I saw him play.

Sidenote: Anthony Peeler's cousin is my lifelong best friend...dude is really cool.

Hammock Parties 07-04-2012 08:14 PM

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kysirsoze 07-04-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8719188)
Don't understand the Lakers love for non-locals. I simply cannot fully embrace any team that isn't a part of my personal roots.

I've lived in LA for over 5 years. I have been trying to embrace the Clippers for 3 or 4 of those years, but it's still a work in progress. I don't remember starting to root for any other team I currently root for. It's just a part of me. Makes it difficult to really care about a new team.

CaliforniaChief 07-04-2012 08:20 PM

So what would get Howard to L.A? Bynum and what...1st round picks from 2145? I don't know how many picks we have to move. Or other players.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 8719207)
So what would get Howard to L.A? Bynum and what...1st round picks from 2145? I don't know how many picks we have to move. Or other players.



what makes getting Howard to LA is telling that big idiot crybaby to put LA on his list at #1 instead of the Nets.

Hence why people think LA going and getting Nash could be enough to persuade Howard to tell the Magic to trade him to LA.

I believe the Magic FO had LA as a much higher option for a trade partner than whatever clowns the Nets could offer

Jerm 07-04-2012 08:31 PM

Howard makes 19 mil, Bynum makes 16 mil...can make a trade fairly easily with the near matching salaries.

Mr. Laz 07-04-2012 08:43 PM

I disapprove, i'm sending Mr. Nash to the Hornets /Stern.

Mr. Kotter 07-04-2012 08:48 PM

Nash...at this point in his career...who cares? Seriously.... LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones 07-04-2012 08:53 PM

I just wish my Bulls would make some noise. Ugh.

Shogun 07-04-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8719083)
Could the Lakers afford Howard AND Smith?

Nash
Kobe
Howard
Smith

That team would kick OKC's soft ass.

but who guards westbrook?

Simply Red 07-04-2012 09:10 PM

I'm not going to lie, they'll win NO more w/ Nash, unless their chemistry is perfect.

Who knows for sure?

I WILL be curious to see Nash & the rest of them suit up and play together.

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8719186)
Yeah those picks don't mean shit.


Now you got Nash who works well with Gasol but if you get Howard you could move Gasol for some nice bench players and a shooter? Or do you keep what you have (which still isn't bad at all).

You get Howard, you keep Gasol. Gasol would be great with someone like Howard. The problem with Pau and Bynum is Bynum wants similar spots to Pau in the mid-range game. Howard's game would work very well with Pau's.

Nash does fill the deep shooter's role. He's one of the best shooting PGs I've ever seen.

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 8719240)
but who guards westbrook?

Kobe would likely guard Westbrook since he wouldn't be carrying the offense.

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 8719230)
Nash...at this point in his career...who cares? Seriously.... LMAO

"At this point in his career" averaged 12.5 points and 10.7 assists.

You're right. No big deal.

KC_Connection 07-04-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 8719230)
Nash...at this point in his career...who cares? Seriously.... LMAO

Nash is still one of the most efficient offensive guards in the NBA (53/39/89 in 2012) and also recorded the most assists in the league last season. This is a significant acquisition for the Lakers.

And really, I'm glad the Raptors weren't able to get him. Beyond making the rich corporate ownership more profitable, it wouldn't have accomplished anything more than a first round loss. With this, it's possible that Bryan Colangelo might even be fired (and that is a long time coming).

The Bad Guy 07-04-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8719191)
I know for some its because of Peeler and Kareem Rush.

For me, it's I grew up loving Magic.

tk13 07-04-2012 09:24 PM

If they can get Karl Malone = championship.

KC_Connection 07-04-2012 09:25 PM

I'll be interested to see how Kobe handles playing off the ball. Will make him a lot more efficient if he lets Nash play his game.

Toadkiller 07-04-2012 09:38 PM

Reports are that Kobe called Nash and told him that he needed him and that he couldnt do it alone. Love that Kobe did this. Now Bynum and MWP for Dwight and a shitty contract and we will be good to go.

lcarus 07-04-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8719158)
You're right, they do need some outside scoring.

I think Goudlock can provide some. I think they are also bringing in Grant Hill and he has an OK outside game.

I applaud Mitch again. Turned a disgruntled Lamar Odom and 3 draft picks into Steve Nash.

Eh, Grant Hill has only made 216 three pointers in his entire 17 year career and shot them at 31%. If they want an outside shooter, Hill isn't the guy at all. Rashard Lewis on the other hand...his game has declined tremendously since the NBA Finals with Orlando, but he can probably still camp around the 3-point line and knock them in.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 10:04 PM

Shard Lewis is god awful.

lcarus 07-04-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8719297)
Shard Lewis is god awful.

Yeah it's funny, after the Finals they suspended him for using PEDs, or what the league considered PEDs. After that he wasn't the same. Odd isn't it? :shake:

okcchief 07-04-2012 10:09 PM

It's a good move for the Lakers. They obviously want to get Kobe a solid shot to win before he's done. Age and injuries have to be a concern, but Nash will make Gasol and Bynum better. I don't think they necessarily have to move anyone now. They are right there with SA and OKC in the West. These big market teams are pulling out all the stops. It's going to be an interesting season in the NBA.

okcchief 07-04-2012 10:10 PM

I saw Rashard Lewis was mail g like 20 mil a year too. ****ing thief.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8719300)
Yeah it's funny, after the Finals they suspended him for using PEDs, or what the league considered PEDs. After that he wasn't the same. Odd isn't it? :shake:


i'm amazed at that dudes last contract he was just bought out from. That the Supersonics (or maybe it was the Magic? I'm pretty sure that was a long contract) gave him such a massive max deal. Hornets waived him for like a 13 or 14 million buyout

he gets 13 or 14 million just because. He's not even worth a fraction of that.

mcaj22 07-04-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 8719307)
I saw Rashard Lewis was mail g like 20 mil a year too. ****ing thief.



i am pretty sure he was the highest paid player in the NBA last season with like a 22 or 24 million salary lol

Joe Johnson will be the new Shard in a couple years, pretty sure the final year of Johnson's max deal he gets like 24 million, he will be 36 years old or something crazy. Who wants to pay that kind of crazy money

mnchiefsguy 07-05-2012 01:03 AM

Wow...what an awful trade for Phoenix. They get draft picks, but given where the Lakers consistently draft, what chance do they have of getting anything close to the value of a league MVP?

BossChief 07-05-2012 01:06 AM

Good move. We desperately needed a shooter that could effeciantly distribute the ball.

Even considering his age, this is a perfect fit.

Move Bynum for Howard and next years finals of Lakers/Heat would be the best finals matchup since the Magic/Kareem Lakers versus the Jordan/Pippen Bulls.

kcxiv 07-05-2012 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8719398)
Wow...what an awful trade for Phoenix. They get draft picks, but given where the Lakers consistently draft, what chance do they have of getting anything close to the value of a league MVP?

They had nothing else. This was thier best bet. It was new York or mos angeles. LA had the better deal

Psyko Tek 07-05-2012 08:21 AM

THE ****ING LAKERS
Jebus anything else
it would be alright, good luck Stevie
But hot the ****ing lakers

Micjones 07-05-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8719398)
Wow...what an awful trade for Phoenix. They get draft picks, but given where the Lakers consistently draft, what chance do they have of getting anything close to the value of a league MVP?

Nash hasn't been a league MVP for 6 years.

BigCatDaddy 07-05-2012 08:59 AM

Damn. He'll be 39 by next year's playoffs. I didn't realize he was THAT old.

lcarus 07-05-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8719334)
i'm amazed at that dudes last contract he was just bought out from. That the Supersonics (or maybe it was the Magic? I'm pretty sure that was a long contract) gave him such a massive max deal. Hornets waived him for like a 13 or 14 million buyout

he gets 13 or 14 million just because. He's not even worth a fraction of that.

It was a sign and trade between Seattle and Orlando. Grossly overpaid. The only time he even came close to earning that money was the 2008-2009 season. He was clutch as hell in that ECF against Cleveland. Still...hugely overpaid.

DJ's left nut 07-05-2012 10:18 AM

Did not see this coming at all.

The Lakers are my one guilty pleasure of a team to root for. I always cringe a little one I admit it, but I don't feel too bad because they weren't that good when I started rooting for them.

That said, with the Chiefs and the Blues as rooting interests, its fun having a team that is perpetually in a 'win-now' mode somewhere on your hierarchy. It sucks that my win-now team is in the back-asswards, corrupt !@#$ing NBA, but that's just the way it is, I guess.

Some folks are saying this means that they won't try for Howard; I'm on the other side. Now they almost have to pursue him. Their perimeter man defense will be abysmal, but Nash is actually a pretty smart positional team defender. Brown tries to run a defense that funnels play towards the middle and allows the big guys to clean up the slop. Well, with Howard's length and explosiveness as a defensive presence in the center, he would mitigate a great deal of Nash's defensive shortcomings. Moroever, Bynum is a 'skilled' big that wants the ball on the blocks and wants to be able to make moves to the hoop. His game doesn't need Nash's vision and frankly it's wasted on him.

Put Howard in there, however, to patrol defensively and pick up garbage buckets and put-backs alongside Gasol who is a perfect fit for Nash's game and suddenly the Lakers have a very dynamic inside-outside game.

It would be a clear contrast in styles against the Thunder and Heat, who will just put as many athletes as they can on the floor and try to outrun them. That said, I still think bigs and PG play are how you win in basketball and the Lakers would be without peer in that regard.

DJ's left nut 07-05-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 8719230)
Nash...at this point in his career...who cares? Seriously.... LMAO

Led the league in assists last season and was in the top 5 in offensive efficiency.

Steve Nash is still an exceptional point-guard.

L.A. Chieffan 07-05-2012 10:20 AM

The new CBA completely ****ed the Lakers but I'm proud of Mitch that he's still out there making moves.

DJ's left nut 07-05-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 8719240)
but who guards westbrook?

Nobody; you funnel him towards the middle and dare him to try 25 tear-drop floaters/gm after Howard picks him up at 13 feet.

The teams that will be able to beat the Lakers are teams that are set up to defeat zone-defenses. The Spurs, for example, would scare the hell out of me.

The Thunder could, but Westbrook would have to become a smarter offensive player. He could use his speed to break down the Laker's perimeter and force the bigs to crash on him, then look for a kick to Harden or Durant. The problem then becomes the length of Gasol and Artest; they could still contest most shots simply by taking a couple of strides.

If the Lakers get Howard, they'll be a very solid defensive team, just not a great group of man-defenders. Even without Howard, Bynum is no slouch defensively when properly motivated. He put on an absolute shot-blocking clinic in one of those playoff games last year. He can do it if he wants, he just doesn't want to that often.

RunKC 07-05-2012 10:59 AM

They still can't keep up with OKC.

Oh and they also have that big vagina from Spain on their team.

ragedogg69 07-05-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8719258)
Nash does fill the deep shooter's role. He's one of the best shooting PGs I've ever seen.

THIS. People always forget this about Nash. He makes his teammates better and he can shoot daggers from anywhere on the court. However, he is the worst defensive player I have ever seen. On defense, the Suns were basically playing 4 on 5 when playing against a penetrating PG.
Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8719398)
Wow...what an awful trade for Phoenix. They get draft picks, but given where the Lakers consistently draft, what chance do they have of getting anything close to the value of a league MVP?

Considering Nash could have just signed with the Lakers as a FA on the 11th and Phoenix will get nothing. I would have preferred that they shipped some of their dead weight to LA, but I think the only pick of value will be that 2015 1st rounder which will probably be when age catches up to LA and the pick ends up in the teens.

I am happy with the Suns signing Dragic. He should have never been traded way in the first place.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-05-2012 11:36 AM

GDI Anyone but them

mcaj22 07-05-2012 12:16 PM

lol the Suns just threw a lot of money at Dragic and Beasley, yea that will put fans in the seats.

RealSNR 07-05-2012 12:17 PM

I don't hate the Lakers, really. But I am getting kind of sick of them.

I'm ready to see the colliding dynasties in Miami and OKC. Houston was supposedly going to contend in there and now I guess they aren't. Maybe Chicago gets thrown in there if Miami's down. But I don't want any more teams.

The Lakers are old-world. I've seen Kobe. I've seen him win it on his own. Twice.

I guess he still has to win one without Phil yet. But whatever. Get off the stage. Time to see some new great dynasties.

mcaj22 07-05-2012 12:22 PM

Houston only had a chance to contend with the great Yao Ming, and they really ****ed up that window by adding some of the turdiest broke dick talent around him (McGrady, Artest, etc)

Houston will never contend now.


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