Does KSU NEED KU?
 

I keep hearing/reading KU fans lamenting the fact that they will have to drag the "KSU anchor" in potential conference realignment. Does KSU really need Kansas to land in a good BCS conference? If the situation plays out, will Kansas really be held back by K-State?

I honestly have no idea. Kansas does have a rather small population to be supporting two large universities, and that can't help with television ratings (and the money that goes along with those for potential conferences). With football being an important part of the equation, would KSU be fine, or even better off, without Kansas?

Absolutely they do.

why do they "have" to stay together?
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:popcorn: :popcorn: This should be entertaining. I think it is going to be pretty funny when it is revealed that Missouri was never invited to the Big 10.


There is a lot of history here

I predict copious amounts of indignant butthurt in this thread. :)

Iowa has 200,000 people "more" than Kansas; Iowa and Iowa State don't seem to "need" each other?

Yeah, you never try to aggravate KU fans, right? Heh.

I don't know about need, but I do not support breaking these two up.

Do you want to go to the first Missouri/Northwestern game at Evanston? I understand its fairly easy to get tickets.

I assume you'll want to bring something purple. Perhaps you should just wash your KU stuff in hot water and let the red and blue run together. :D

I don't know if they "need" each other, but if the Big 12 collapses, ISU will be hurting.

Honestly, I can't see why this thread would aggravate KU fans at all.

Well now that your here, the butthurt has arrived....

:D

It very well could be that Missouri isn't invited. I think they probably will be and I think they will accept. KU fans seem to agree, at least to some extent, or there wouldn't be much talk about KSU holding them back. While I get to hear about it in person, you can also check out KU's Scout site etc. to see the KSU discussion.

Doesnt bother me, nor do I care.....

I would rather KU and KSU stay in the same conference....

ROFL I have some K-State purple, as I like them both. Get lots of comments from people on the "Power Cat" thinking it is an improvement over the NW logo.

Going to a Mizzou/NW game would remind me of the time I went to a WSU/Nobody game.

Meh. This should turn out to be more of an internal thing. I'll mainly just sit back and watch this one.

This whole thing is starting to bore me a bit. Nothing will be confirmed for at least a couple of weeks, and beyond that, I think everybody with horse in this race has made his feelings crystal clear by now.

It's just obvious that KU likes KSU more than they like MU. lol

I guess it is an angle that had not occurred to me. I still consider the "Big 6" as all needing each other.

Kansas and Kansas State spend near the bottom of the barrel every year on athletics in the Big XII. This is all about football, and unfortunately, neither school has the resources to compete with the big boys.

Does that clear things up?

no KSU doesn't need KU ...


i think they should tell the committee they don't and that they want to go off on their own. :)

What committee?

Because it is state law. Neither one can go away without the other.

Where does it say that at?

Oh they can go their separate ways if the Board of Regents are convinced it is the best for the State overall. If KU has the option to go to a high level conference and KSU does not... in the end the State won't stand in KU's way. It is that or to have two dying Universities and the State doesn't want that.

The board is going to try and force a package deal ... if they wait too long then both teams could end up playing in mid valley scrub league.

hopefully it doesn't get that far

Both controlled by the same people........Kansas Board of Regents.

Think of it like Jimmie Johnson (the 48 team) and Jeff Gordon (the 24 team). Both owned by Rick Hendrick, but two different teams that benefit each other.

They're not getting split up for any reason.

not really ... it's up to the board of regents to decide

i'm going to start breaking Regent legs if they **** us.


you can hear the desperation in Kietzman's voice whenever he talks about it ... he knows KSU is screwed without KU.

I heard the reason KU was passed up was because of the ongoing investigation to the ticketing scandal...and other goings on.

I mean, how many houses does a head basketball coach in Lawrence really need?

Dude, comon... Financially speaking, MU is a much better deal for the B10, I mean it's not even close. I'm pretty sure that was the main driving force behind that decision. Nebraska brings other things to the table, I guess, like nationally recognized brand and an incredibly good AD (even though they only really care about FB).

If the WEF investigation is what caused KU not being considered, it's a pretty stupid reason.

If anything, KSU would be better off w/out KU even existing. KU takes probably every single in state basketball recruit worth a sh*t and they probably split on football recruits. Same thing in Iowa. Probably 80% of people in Iowa and Kansas like the Hawkeyes and Jayhawks respectively.

So in reality, KU is of detriment to KSU.

wow ... way to take the discussion in a completely irrelevant direction.

this about how KU and KSU relate to the upcoming conference changes etc.

of course every school would benefit if there wasn't any other scholastic competition. :facepalm:

frankly, if a major conference wants KU and not KSU, I'm not sure the KS BOR has the power to keep them together.

it would take a lawsuit or going private to go against the Board head-on. I think it's tied to state funding.


a little bribery behind the scenes might work :)

Heh. Paging Lew Perkins...

If the BOR's goal is to protect the interest of the state, I'm sure having one university in a BCS conference and one in a mid-major conference is preferable to having both in mid-majors. Their attempt to help would instead hurt everyone across the board.

go Lew go PBJ

if you are gonna have a "bent nose" AD then you might as well play to his strengths.

He hired Turner Gill. . .he obviously has "lost it."

That's not fair. Lew is just looking to Jesus up the place a bit!

Damn it. I was hoping you had got hit by a car. Just my luck.

If you think basketball KU is a big draw for any conference and KSU is a good draw. Football both teams have been uper middle road the past few years so niether team is a bad candidate for conferences. My question is why does MU want out of big 12 so bad ? It is one thing to run behind the texas schools but to also be behind the Kansas schools! Wish them well they are like the crack head that tells his parents if he moves away and finds new friends he will get clean. LMFAO

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ROFL

Holy shit!

LMAO

EDIT: Oh yeah, EMAW.

I'll be buying a copy.

Or at least downloading a torrent. :)

You are a true fan. Congrats. To think I had to wait for my team to win a NC to get a DVD.

I can't believe KSU fans actually give Reerun shit when he brings up this DVD garbage K-State is all about.

Uh...its called MONEY. Nearly twice the amount we're receiving yearly from the Big12 (and that's just athletics related). Not to mention the bigger benefits of more academic/research funding to improve our academic standing and the university as a whole.

Why? It's hilarious.

Yes they are, but with emaw's like yourself. They have a lemming line awaiting its release...


I had to wait for a NC to get a DVD... You guys get them for just doing nothing....

I'm still trying to figure why anybody thinks the DVD's are something bad.

ROYrun gets shit because he's pretty much a moron.

Yep. Big 10 makes a jagabillion more per year than the little 12...

Actually I am sick of the small minded weak action of the little 12.

I hope KU wises up and moves on to a better conference soon... There isnt any vision for the Big 12.. I should have its own TV contract and network... Period! Its inexcusable...

Kansas already has a D-1 school in a mid-major.

The DVDs are not bad, it just reflects poorly on the program. You know, taking pride in achieving not so great things and all. That's his whole joke - you guys make DVDs out of everything because every little thing is a big deal for KSU.

Holy shit I forgot you even existed...

I reloaded my laptop not to long ago and havent needed firefox for anything...

Thanks for reminding me... Time to down load and update the list again.

Come on. You're not the least bit embarrassed by a couple of those DVDs?

The WNIT Championship DVD was embarrassing.

The rest, no. Personally, I enjoy replaying memorable games and re-watching them during the summer when there are no sports worth watching on.

I especially enjoy watching the DVD's of games that I attended, because I was unable to view the telecast, and hear the radio call, because I was there.

Yeah, KU has a ton of room to talk in that department. How many times did you guys tear down your goalposts in 2003,2004, 2005, and 2006, combined?

Heck their were even t-shirts made when you qualified for a bowl game in 2005 after beating Iowa State.

Kstate Basketball!

We make cool DVDs!!

Speaking of '06. Wasn't that the last time that KState went to a bowl.

Imagine that, Ron Princes first year. I thought we were in the right direction after that year. Man I was wrong.

I guess I have no room to talk on the DVD, I still have the 08 FF and NC game on the DVR and wont let anyone delete it...


Still have a copy of the BCS Bowl win as well....

Have a radio copy of the NC game....

It happens... Maybe you should try being a draftabulator?

I was wrong about last years KU team.. I predicted 9-3...
Was wrong about losing to UNI, thought easily KU was a FF team... Especially after the cake walk throught the Big 12 again....

I don't see the big deal with DVDs. I remember seeing a bunch of season recap DVDs in the KU bookstore, for relatively average seasons. People want to reminisce.

If you want to compare KU FB program to the KSU BBall program, be my guest. That just proves our point.

Besides, students doing stupid shit is not on the same level.

KU>* /end thread/odoyle rules

I don't imagine academic arguments are going to matter too much to him.

Proves what point? You aren't making a point. You are just being a blowhard with your ridiculous phogtard arrogance.

I get the rest but what is that part about?

Were you expecting anything different?

It's from "billy madison" there is a bully in each grade that pushes people around and then says "O'Doyle Rules!"

You do realize you're one of the most arrogant posters on the intraweb, right? But we still love you. And my point is that KSU BBall is vastly inferior and celebrates small success with great vigor :).

O'Doyle, I have a feeling your whole family is going down.

Exactly, LMAO

Oh comon, like you guys don't swing shit. It's all a part of it. Look at all the shit you guys started talking once your football team sniffed success. Imagine if it was a perennial powerhouse.

Not in the least. I can't understand why I should be embarrarssed. I love them.

That it provides entertainment for Royrun and Arrowtard makes it better. Seriously, have you seen two bigger misfits?

Not since you arrived..

And I was just starting to like you again. What's up with that?

Your obsession with me is flattering but very creepy to say the least... By far the most obsessed over Reerun_KC on CP ever....

I am quite certain we can do without KU and KSU....I'm just saying:D

"You're obsessed with me"!!!

"You're obsessed with DVD's"!!!


Oh the burn....

:facepalm:

Oh you got me William... How can I ever fix these burns? Oh the humanity...