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Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 08:41 PM

Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment
 
A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

<!-- $cms.websiteSection.disableStory --> He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

007 04-30-2010 08:43 PM

So is the Big 10 becoming the Big 17 now?

BWillie 04-30-2010 08:44 PM

I blame Notre Dame for the demise of the Big 12. I say Kansas just plays an an independent in basketball, and who the fuck cares in football. Can't wait till Colorado goes to the Pac 10 and we have to bring in Rice, TCU, and Memphis. That will be terrible. No BYU, they can't even play on Sundays.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6728560)
So is the Big 10 becoming the Big 17 now?

11 + 5 = 16

Big 16

Farzin 04-30-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728563)
11 + 5 = 16

Big 16

ROFL

teedubya 04-30-2010 08:50 PM

I just registered Big16sports.com

Reaper16 04-30-2010 08:50 PM

*pines for the days of the Big 8*

notorious 04-30-2010 08:52 PM

I was suprised at first, but it makes sense. The Big 12 is choosing not to compete with the other big conferences when it comes to money and TV.

|Zach| 04-30-2010 08:52 PM

Sweet 16?

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6728578)
I was suprised at first, but it makes sense. The Big 12 is choosing not to compete with the other big conferences when it comes to money and TV.

I hope KU is getting their ass in gear to find another conference because the Big 12 is about to become the Big Texas(and friends) Conference.

notorious 04-30-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728590)
I hope KU is getting their ass in gear to find another conference because the Big 12 is about to become the Big Texas(and friends) Conference.

Yep.


Southwest Conference Part II.

It's not as bad as it sounds. In fact, that might be a best-case scenario after the dust settles.

KChiefs1 04-30-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6728574)
I just registered Big16sports.com

Good move!:clap:

Mr. Kotter 04-30-2010 09:02 PM

I like Tigers and the Huskers. Seriously. I cheer for them, once the JHawks are down and out.

As a Kansas fan, I'd say it would appear that Nebraska and Missouri would "seem" to want to have a "better" chance in a league that tends to be less "dominated" by certain teams in certain sports.

I live adjacent to "Big Ten" country. When's the last time a Big Ten school made real noise in pursuit of a national championship....except for the perpetual bridesmaids, from "the" Ohio State University.

Maybe it's the right move for the Tigers and Huskers. Maybe they can actually make a difference. Guess, if this report is true, we will see.

Congrats, Mizzou and Nebraska. Have a good life. :toast:

Bugeater 04-30-2010 09:03 PM

This is going to be such a letdown if it doesn't happen.

notorious 04-30-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728601)
I like Mizzou and the Huskers. Seriously.

As a Kansas fan, I'd say it would appear that Nebraska and Missouri would "seem" to want to have a "better" chance in a league that tends to be less "dominated" by certain teams in certain sports.

I live adjacent to "Big Ten" country. When's the last time a Big Ten school made real noise in pursuit of a national championship....except for the perpetual bridesmaids, from "the" Ohio State University.

Maybe it's the right move for the Tigers and Huskers. Maybe they can actually make a difference. Guess, if this report is true, we will see.

Congrats, Mizzou and Nebraska. Have a good life. :toast:



It all comes down to TV and money.


The won't be any more or less competitive in the Big 11.

Mr. Kotter 04-30-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6728604)
It all comes down to TV and money.


The won't be any more or less competitive in the Big 11.

Maybe. I still think the Big 12 is quite viable though; too bad Mizzou and Nebraska seem to think otherwise.

Braincase 04-30-2010 09:08 PM

I hope the Big 12 commissioner gets a cactus shoved up his ass. Stupid do-nothing asshole.

notorious 04-30-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728606)
Maybe. I still think the Big 12 is quite viable though; too bad Mizzou and Nebraska seem to think otherwise.


The Big 12 is definately up to snuff when it comes to being competitive on the field. The Big 10 just has a much better TV deal, along with larger schools which equals a larger alumni base.

I would put the Big 12's sports resume against the Big 10's any day.

|Zach| 04-30-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728606)
Maybe. I still think the Big 12 is quite viable though; too bad Mizzou and Nebraska seem to think otherwise.

More money for athletics and academics. Alot more.

And really Mizzou has not forgotten about being screwed out of a BCS Bowl game by a team it beat, a better bowl game by a team in beat by 5 TDs the same year with Nebraska, and a 6-6 Iowa St. team last year because of the way the Big 12 is structured.

Bolded part the most important though.

tk13 04-30-2010 09:10 PM

College football may look very weird in a couple years. You have to wonder if the SEC would make a move to go get Texas/A&M/Oklahoma/Oklahoma State and create a football mega-conference.

notorious 04-30-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6728615)
More money for athletics and academics.

This

Ebolapox 04-30-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728606)
Maybe. I still think Texas and Oklahoma are quite viable though; too bad Mizzou and Nebraska seem to think otherwise.

FYP

Reaper16 04-30-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728601)
I like Tigers and the Huskers. Seriously. I cheer for them, once the JHawks are down and out.

As a Kansas fan, I'd say it would appear that Nebraska and Missouri would "seem" to want to have a "better" chance in a league that tends to be less "dominated" by certain teams in certain sports.

I live adjacent to "Big Ten" country. When's the last time a Big Ten school made real noise in pursuit of a national championship....except for the perpetual bridesmaids, from "the" Ohio State University.

Maybe it's the right move for the Tigers and Huskers. Maybe they can actually make a difference. Guess, if this report is true, we will see.

Congrats, Mizzou and Nebraska. Have a good life. :toast:

LMAO at the Lawrencecentric view of the universe that you subscribe to.

007 04-30-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728563)
11 + 5 = 16

Big 16

:cuss:I counted the Tigers twice I guess.:doh!:

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6728652)
:cuss:I counted the Tigers twice I guess.:doh!:

it doesn't matter ... the Big 10+1 has been miscounting for years.

Psyko Tek 04-30-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6728575)
*pines for the days of the Big 8*

still use the phrase

life's tough in the big 8

nobody in az has a clue

|Zach| 04-30-2010 09:23 PM

It would be so interesting to read the real story of how this has unfolded behind the scenes. So many players...so many variables. Crazy shit.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6728635)
LMAO at the Lawrencecentric view of the universe that you subscribe to.

Yeah, I could see where a championship every 20 years would lead someone to act like their shit doesn't stink.

Mr. Kotter 04-30-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6728635)
LMAO at the Lawrencecentric view of the universe that you subscribe to.

I would expect the same from any real and proud alum of any university. :shrug:

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728601)
I like Tigers and the Huskers. Seriously. I cheer for them, once the JHawks are down and out.

As a Kansas fan, I'd say it would appear that Nebraska and Missouri would "seem" to want to have a "better" chance in a league that tends to be less "dominated" by certain teams in certain sports.

I live adjacent to "Big Ten" country. When's the last time a Big Ten school made real noise in pursuit of a national championship....except for the perpetual bridesmaids, from "the" Ohio State University.

Maybe it's the right move for the Tigers and Huskers. Maybe they can actually make a difference. Guess, if this report is true, we will see.

Congrats, Mizzou and Nebraska. Have a good life. :toast:

Michigan State (multiple) and Illinois have played for the NT w/in the last five years in basketball. Wisconsin has made the FF recently as well.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6728667)
Michigan State (multiple) and Illinois have played for the NT w/in the last five years in basketball. Wisconsin has made the FF recently as well.

MSU has been to the FF three times in the last 5 years, haven't they?

Coach 04-30-2010 09:26 PM

So, they need 3 more teams. Move ISU, KU, and KSU with Missouri and Nebraska. Then that creates a East division and a West division.

Just thinking out loud anyways.
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|Zach| 04-30-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6728671)
So, they need 3 more teams. Move ISU, KU, and KSU with Missouri and Nebraska. Then that creates a East division and a West division.
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Why do they need 3 more teams?

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:27 PM

i don't give a shit about Mizzou ... don't care if we ever play them again tbh


what sucks is that this whole screwed up mess is because of all those assholes down in texas. Those bastards don't give a shit about the Big 12 or anything else. They will only stay in the Big 12 conference under their preferential financial terms. Mizzou and Nebraski leave it's all the same to them they will just add another couple schools that will do what they tell them to do ... Houston,TCU?

if they don't get the financial terms they want they will just create an all-Texas conference or some stupid shit like that.

Have i mention lately how much i hate the state of texas :cuss:


you think if we sell Texas to mexico it will stop all those ants from creeping across the borders into America?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6728670)
MSU has been to the FF three times in the last 5 years, haven't they?

And 5 times in the last decade.

I know it'll be anathema to say, but they've had more college BB success than KU the last decade.

Coach 04-30-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6728673)
Why do they need 3 more teams?

Was assuming if pitt, syracuse, and some other team weren't joining in the big 10 for a big 16 or something.
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BWillie 04-30-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728675)
i don't give a shit about Mizzou ... don't care if we ever play them again tbh


what sucks is that this whole screwed up mess is because of all those assholes down in texas. Those bastards don't give a shit about the Big 12 or anything else. They will only stay in the Big 12 conference under their preferencial financial terms. Mizzou and Nebraski leave it's all the same to them they will just add another couple schools that will do what they tell them to do ... Houston,TCU?

if they don't get the financial terms they want they will just create an all-Texas conference or some stupid shit like that.

Have i mention lately how much i hate the state of texas :cuss:


you think if we sell Texas to mexico it will stop all those ants from creeping across the borders into America?

And w/ that, you can blame the management of the Big 12. They allowed Texas to gain too much power, and totally shunned schools like KSU, ISU, Missouri.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:30 PM

The Big 12 has two things going against it:

#1) It's not big enough, strong enough to compete with the genetic TV freak of the Big 10 and
#2) It's centered around that stinking cesspool Texas, that place I like to call Mexico North*


I apologize to all the Mexicans out there

Mr. Kotter 04-30-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6728662)
It would be so interesting to read the real story of how this has unfolded behind the scenes. So many players...so many variables. Crazy shit.

I agree. To be clear, I don't begrudge MU or NU for the decision at all; seriously. I just think it could be pretty short-sighted, but Lord knows I've been wrong before. If the money is better at the moment....cool. I just wonder down the road though, if whatever remains of the Big 12 will actually do better. I wouldn't bet against it. Guess we'll see.

|Zach| 04-30-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728683)
I agree. To be clear, I don't begrudge MU or NU for the decision at all; seriously. I just think it could be pretty short-sighted, but Lord knows I've been wrong before. If the money is better at the moment....cool. I just wonder down the road though, if whatever remains of the Big 12 will actually do better. I wouldn't bet against it. Guess we'll see.

What is a hypothetical where it would.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:32 PM

It's about the money, but it's also about more than the sports money. There is more prestige involved in being a Big 10 school because of the academics.

RustShack 04-30-2010 09:32 PM

So this means the Big 12 wont have a championship game anymore?

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:34 PM

congrats to MU and Neb ... they get to go to a conference and actually get a fair shake.

i'm jealous

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6728692)
So this means the Big 12 wont have a championship game anymore?

http://www.milkmanthefilm.com/akiraw...t%20Violin.jpg

|Zach| 04-30-2010 09:36 PM

We'll keep it going.

http://www.tigerboard.com/uimages/user18361_71.jpg

Spott 04-30-2010 09:36 PM

I'm looking forward to a Mizzou/Iowa rivalry should this actually happen.

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6728679)
And w/ that, you can blame the management of the Big 12. They allowed Texas to gain too much power, and totally shunned schools like KSU, ISU, Missouri.

Exactly. They've run things like MLB, and Texas is the Yankees. Not to mention completely missing the boat on the TV deal, when they had the chance.

And FWIW, they stick it to KU just as hard as any other school.

RustShack 04-30-2010 09:37 PM

I wonder who the Big 12 adds now.

GoHuge 04-30-2010 09:39 PM

This shit sucks. I sure hope they can do something to keep the Big XII together, but it's not looking good. You can call it a self inflicted wound because they ****ed around as other conferences came in and poached their schools. That and the money not being equally distributed is causing this to happen. ****ing reeruns. Just sat back and watched it happen.

Spott 04-30-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6728706)
I wonder who the Big 12 adds now.

I'm guessing TCU would be one candidate.

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728695)
congrats to MU and Neb ... they get to go to a conference and actually get a fair shake.

i'm jealous

I won't trust that it's for real until it's official... but it sure seems likely.

And "fair" is exactly right. The Big 12 currently is set up to help the rich get richer.

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge39 (Post 6728710)
This shit sucks. I sure hope they can do something to keep the Big XII together, but it's not looking good. You can call it a self inflicted wound because they ****ed around as other conferences came in and poached their schools. That and the money not being equally distributed is causing this to happen. ****ing reeruns. Just sat back and watched it happen.

Hey, Dan Beebe isn't worried about it.

So no problem, right?

Quote:

"I expect that Jim, who I have known for many, many years and trust implicitly, that he'll do what he said he's going to do," Beebe said. "If and when the time comes that they're going to do anything -- and if that includes any of the institutions in the Big 12 -- he'll let me know first."
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5119881

Saul Good 04-30-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 6728683)
I agree. To be clear, I don't begrudge MU or NU for the decision at all; seriously. I just think it could be pretty short-sighted, but Lord knows I've been wrong before. If the money is better at the moment....cool. I just wonder down the road though, if whatever remains of the Big 12 will actually do better. I wouldn't bet against it. Guess we'll see.

There will be no Big XII left once Missouri leaves. There are 3 major markets in the Big XII outside of Texas (Kansas City, St. Louis, and Denver). If Missouri leaves, especially if Nebraska leaves, Colorado is long gone to the Pac 10. There is no way in hell that the Longhorns are going to want to subsidize a bunch of other schools without major markets.

Texas will go independent and sign a larger TV contract than Notre Dame.

Oklahoma and possibly Oklahoma State might be forced to join the Pac 10 or possibly form a new conference with schools like BYU, Utah, TCU, A&M, Texas Tech, Nevada, Baylor, and UNLV.

I just don't think that the Big XII would be viable by trying to replace Mizzou, Nebraska, and Colorado with schools like BYU, Memphis, TCU, etc. Texas just needs any excuse to leave. This would be more than enough for them to bolt.

Discuss Thrower 04-30-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6728706)
I wonder who the Big 12 adds now.

If I were one of the Powers That Be, I'd send UT, aTm, OU, and OKSt, to the SEC as a previous poster suggested. The rest of the Big 12 can merge with whatever remnants of the WAC/MWC are left after they get raided by the Pac-10.

Conference Armageddon is on the doorstep...

Saul Good 04-30-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6728691)
It's about the money, but it's also about more than the sports money. There is more prestige involved in being a Big 10 school because of the academics.

...and the academics in the Big 10 are more prestigious because of the money.

notorious 04-30-2010 09:46 PM

Maybe Nebraska and Mizzou are using this as leverage to get the Big 12 to pull their heads out of their collective asses on the revenue deal.

Priest31kc 04-30-2010 09:46 PM

So if these schools do move to the Big 10, when would this take affect?

big nasty kcnut 04-30-2010 09:46 PM

Well bye then the big 12 can get arkansas and colorado state.

Saul Good 04-30-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728695)
congrats to MU and Neb ... they get to go to a conference and actually get a fair shake.

i'm jealous

You and the rest of the Kansas fans didn't seem to be so worried about fairness when the Orange Bowl invitations were made a few years ago.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Town Fan 1988 (Post 6728722)
Conference Armageddon is on the doorstep...

yep ... i posted something the other day about the Pac-10 already looking to expand if the Big 10 does.

dominoes are about to fall

Musical chairs just started and schools better make sure they got a chair at the big table when the music stops.

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 6728734)
Well bye then the big 12 can get arkansas and colorado state.

Heheh.

RustShack 04-30-2010 09:47 PM

Sign TCU and UNI if we can't steal someone else!! To the ship!

Saul Good 04-30-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 6728734)
Well bye then the big 12 can get arkansas and colorado state.

Arkansas left the SWAC because they were sick of Texas's shit. Why would they want to come back to a conference even more dominated by Texas?

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6728732)
Maybe Nebraska and Mizzou are using this as leverage to get the Big 12 to pull their heads out of their collective asses on the revenue deal.

I think it's too late for that.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 6728733)
So if these schools do move to the Big 10, when would this take affect?

schools have to give the conference 2 years notice before leaving the Big 12.

of course the Big 12 could always just wave that if they think having "lame duck" schools would hurt them more than help.

Frazod 04-30-2010 09:50 PM

**** the Big XII, Beebe and all things Texas. I hope we make the move tomorrow.

Saul Good 04-30-2010 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728746)
schools have to give the conference 2 years notice before leaving the Big 12.

of course the Big 12 could always just wave that if they think having "lame duck" schools would hurt them more than help.

I'm not sure they HAVE TO do anything.

tk13 04-30-2010 09:51 PM

I don't know if they'll get them, but you have to bet money the SEC will go after Texas. There's already been talk of it. It almost happened in the 90's but it was shot down because the state demanded they take A&M too. If teams are poaching 2-4 teams, that won't be a problem now.

notorious 04-30-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6728744)
I think it's too late for that.

Hopeful thinking.

ROYC75 04-30-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728659)
it doesn't matter ... the Big 10+1 has been miscounting for years.

So much for higher academics, huh ?:doh!:

Big 10 but have 11 teams..... They really need the money to educate them.:D

Frazod 04-30-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6728750)
I'm not sure they HAVE TO do anything.

Considering how much support they've given us, I think we owe them exactly DICK.

But frankly, I don't think they'll care. I mean, why start now?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6728728)
...and the academics in the Big 10 are more prestigious because of the money.

The endowments, yes, but damn sure not the TV contract.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6728735)
You and the rest of the Kansas fans didn't seem to be so worried about fairness when the Orange Bowl invitations were made a few years ago.

still crying about that?


completely different, dumbass.

:facepalm:


like i said ... won't miss mizzou even a little bit. Some of the most nagging bitches you've ever seen.

MoreLemonPledge 04-30-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728762)
still crying about that?


completely different, dumbass.

:facepalm:


like i said ... won't miss mizzou even a little bit. Some of the most nagging bitches you've ever seen.

Funny, we think the same thing about KU fans.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6728750)
I'm not sure they HAVE TO do anything.

yes they do ... it's in the contract


and they still have to pay big money as it is iirc

Bugeater 04-30-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6728752)
I don't know if they'll get them, but you have to bet money the SEC will go after Texas. There's already been talk of it. It almost happened in the 90's but it was shot down because the state demanded they take A&M too. If teams are poaching 2-4 teams, that won't be a problem now.

It's my understanding that there is some kind of state law in Texas that prevents UT and A&M from being split into two different conferences.

KcMizzou 04-30-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6728767)
It's my understanding that there is some kind of state law in Texas that prevents UT and A&M from being split into two different conferences.

Yesterday someone here said the same thing about KU and KSU.

I'm not saying it's not true, but I've never heard of such a thing if it is.

Spott 04-30-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6728675)
i don't give a shit about Mizzou ... don't care if we ever play them again tbh

That's interesting considering that you've started 2 Mizzou threads in the last 3 days.

Mr. Laz 04-30-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6728764)
Funny, we think the same thing about KU fans.

cool

http://i37.tinypic.com/219ubn6.jpg

Frazod 04-30-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 6728776)
That's interesting considering that you've started 2 Mizzou threads in the last 3 days.

Shh. He thinks that butthurt is coming from a lumpy cushion. :D


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