Should Chiefs reach out to Rich Gannon to be QB's coach?
 

Gannon says he called Al Davis willing to be the QB coach but was turned down.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Should Chiefs reach out to Gannon as QB Coach?

Repost.


And No.

Urine

Idiot

Gannon views himself as a Raider wholeheartedly. That would be like if Priest Holmes became the RB coach for Baltimore. He might do it, but there probably wouldn't be very much emotional attachment at all if I were to guess (but there might be since Holmes actually has a ring :)).

Gannon was being critical of Russel which is part of his job you could say. He also was just offering to help salvage his career. I doubt he has interest in putting in all those hours a pro coach does at much less money then he earned when he played.

You couldn't pay these guys enough money to work 100 hour weeks when they've got tens of millions in their pockets.

It's ****ing ludicrous to suggest it and IMO, deserves a one week ban for being so ****ing stupid.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/ronnie_bradford/

He played DB from 93-02 in the NFL and jumped right into coaching in 03. Most who think about coaching end up coming back within a couple years.

The type that is a film junkie or was mentioned as a coach on the field, etc.

Not always but alot of times its the backups and not starters who become coaches. Especially these days.

WTF is your problem? There are LOTS of guys out there who start out doing stuff like this! Mike Singletary was the LB coach of the Ravens. Jim Harbaugh started out as a QB coach and is doing well now.

I don't KNOW whether or not Gannon wants to be a coach someday. He hasn't said he does, but for all you know its something he's throwing around and not talking about. You aren't inside of his head.

We can't know for sure but i wonder if Gannon sits around and wonders what it would be like to shove a live squirell up his ass. We just can't tell with those former raiders and what they might be thinking.

yea for real man, calm down

gannon back at qb, weis and crennel our new bookends on the oline, PRINT EM!!!
Posted via Mobile Device

JFC

That's pure speculation.


**** you irony!

I would love for Gannon to be working with Cassel on a day to day basis.

They were similarly styled players and I think that Cassel could benefit from a player like him being around and helping him work through his struggles.

That being said, the guy went black and aint coming back.

His problem is that he thinks he knows everything. Haven't you figured that out yet?

I'm guessing Weis has someone in mind.

Yeah. Successful NFL players NEVER come back, and become coaches.
ball up your fist, and punch yourself in the face for insulting this person, and being so stupid in the process.

He's just an arrogant, know it it all, Sanchez slobbing, prick. Don't let his insults bother you.

You know Dane.

If it's not his idea, there can't be ANY merit to it.

Only in the most remote of chances that it has long been Weis' burning wish.

KC would bring in Grbac as QB coach before Gannon....D'OH!!!

Sorry to correct you a little, but had one of his ass buddies Hamas, or Mecca said it, it would have been just fine.

At this point, Dane's opinion means absolutely squat to me, and I'm sure many others feel the same, because of shit just like this. It's ridiculous.

He's a dick, and I would honestly slap the taste out of anyone's mouth who talked to people the way he does. Actually I probably wouldn't get the chance because someone would have already done it, and he wouldn't be acting the way he does.

It's usually little bitch boys who talk this way in an environment without consequences.

here is a good and insightful interview with Terry Shea talking about Matt Cassel and what he thinks he needs to be successful. THis should show that this guy was on the right path, just not Gannon.

http://www.fileskcsp.com/morningrush/1202shae.mp3

I doubt that Gannon would consider taking that job for Oakland (much less Kansas City). I don't think that was his offer to them. I think he was willing to work with Russell here-and-there, but certainly not on an on-going basis.

If we're going to talk about a former QB being QB coach (as I think we should have), we'd need to find someone who worked within this system.

Gannon could teach Cassel how to dump it off to Charlie Garner for 25% of his completions, I suppose.

If Warner was to retire, I would prefer him as QB coach.

He is probably a 1st ballot hall of famer

I agree. I really don't think Gannon was a good enough QB to be teaching any of our players anything. I would not be for it at all.

You're his friend. He's nice to you.

He's an arrogant prick to everyone else.

I hear Charlie Manson was really nice to all of his friends too.

He is the best poster on this board..NOT EVEN CLOSE LOL

I want Deberg.

I don't know you very well, but I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm......Right?

Check your rep

If Cassel gets another QB coach, he needs one for the purpose of improving his mechanics, etc. I don't think Gannon would be good fit in that regard.

Thing is, I have no clue about Gannon's coaching ability. Success at playing the position doesn't guarantee success coaching it.

Gannon has a TV job, genious.

Even Sean "Let me take a photo of my junk on my phone" Salisbury wasn't dumb enough to leave TV to be QB coach of the Cardinals when offered.

Sure, guys from eras when the players made about 8 bucks would come back because they need the money, but it's not going to happen with any of the truly successful and wealthy post-FA guys.

This is at the same level as the "make Trent the QB coach" discussions.

DeBerg would be much better.

I wouldn't want Gannon any way.

I every one is under the mistaken impression that if "we'd only kept Gannon, he would have been MVP for us, throw for 5000 yards, yada, yada.

The guy was very comparable to Grbac when he was in KC. He only succeeded in that very specific version of the WCO that Chuckie ran with two HOF WRs who ran up a ton of YAC. Gannon sucked in KC's WCO. He was the ultimate system QB.

We don't run a WCO in KC. Not to mention we don't let ex-players inside Arrowhead any more unless they are holding a ticket.

Not saying Gannon would, but don't you think it is possible that some player who didn't win a SB might want to try it as a coach of some sort. I could see that happening.

Do we also get to bring in a QB coach that can teach the technique on how to throw the long ball?

i imagine Weis will be QB coach and OC since he did the same at ND etc


not that i like it, i prefer a QB coach who does nothing but help the most important in the game but ...

Not exactly true. Ron Powlus (yes, THAT Ron Powlus) was the QB coach at ND during Weis' tenure. Sure, Weis had a big hand on teaching Brady and Clausen, but the QB coach was Powlus.

Also, like wild1 said, I'm sure Weis has guys in mind to fill his offensive staff.

wow ... my bad.

i could of sworn that i heard during one of the ND games that Weis was the QB coach.

Gimme a ****ing break.

Mike Singletary didn't play in the era of Free Agency. He didn't earn $40 million dollars during his playing career nor did he ever earn in excess of $4 million dollars per year in the broadcast booth.

The idea that ANY Free Agency era player that earned in excess of $10 million dollars per year in the course of their career would want to put in 100 hours a week as a position coach is LUDICROUS.

USE YOUR BRAIN, PEOPLE.

**** you.

You're the ****ing idiot that repeatedly makes stupid comments yet when called on them, you use excuses like "I'm busy" or "I have to go to work".

But go ahead and name me a SINGLE player in the past decade that earned in excess of $10 million dollars that's WILLING to put in 100 hours a week as a position coach.

I'll be waiting.

Bull ****ing shit.

I've been saying this for YEARS.

People have suggested this with Trent Green. People have suggested this with other successful QB's.

The bottom line you cracked out drug addict is that NO ONE who's made in excess of $10 million per year is going to leave their wife and children at home while they toil for $250k per year, 100 hours a week.

Not.

Gonna.

Happen.

****.

You.

Go ahead and name all the players that earned in excess of $10 million during their playing days that have become position coaches.

I'll be waiting.

It may not be their earnings so much as the fact that when these guys are 34 and 35 and done playing, they are married and probably have kids... they are ready to have a family life because they've postponed that part of life for so long.

FWIW, Bryant Young was the defensive Graduate Assistant for ND this past season. I heard he may become the DL coach at San Jose State.

It's just silly, altogether.

When guys have made an exorbitant amount of money, they're 99.99999% less likely to become a coach, especially if they are already earning millions in the booth.

It's simple common sense.

He's leaving ND to go to Akron

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...-at-akron.html

I wouldn't have said that because I'm not a ****ing idiot.

The only consequences to your posts is that you show how ridiculously stupid you are each and every time.

That's the second time today beachtribe has alluded to whipping Dane's ass.

The Hymenization of the ballwashers continues.

Just curious here....how much money do broadcasters like Gannon make? I realize he made his money as a player, but I've always wonder. I'm sure top guys like Simms/Nantz make a lot more, but just curious.

Gannon? About $4 million per year.

Hell, our local sports broadcasters like Jim Hill earn in excess of $2 million per.

It's a cushy, cushy job.

It seems quite apparent to me becoming a coach has less to do with money than people think. Coaches aren't driven by dollar signs, they're driven by success. They're driven by wanting to be able to say they're better than everyone else, and be the greatest at what they do. I think a lot of times these coaches who go from NCAA to NFL do so not for the money (Saban was making more than enough money at LSU) but because its the ultimate proving ground; if you can make it there then you are the best.

I know its not football, but a prime example of this is Gretzky. He had no need for money going back into the league as a coach. But he wanted the challenge and to be successful again.

DeBerg is the guy I cited as Cassel's 'upside'.

If we're looking to turn Cassel into a moderately acceptable QB, DeBerg would be a good choice.

Though ideally we'd can Cassel's ass and keep hunting for a legitimate NFL starting QB, in which case I think we should set our sights a little higher than DeBerg.

This has absolutely nothing to do with your question.

99.999999% of the guys who earned in excess of $10 million dollars while playing in the NFL are not going to leave their wives and children for the grind of working as an assistant coach. They're not going to work 70 to 100 hours per week, especially while earning in excess of $4 million per year in the broadcast booth.

Bringing up Gretzky, a guy who was part owner of the franchise he coached, is irrelevant to football.

Oh and you're crazy if you don't think it's about money: Otherwise, why would they all have agents?

Rich Gannon will work for free he loves the Chiefs.

I tend to agree though I believe there is going to be one huge exception and that is Peyton Manning. I have a feeling he is going to become a coach once he retires.

The same reason a guy who owns his own company would have a lawyer. Whenever you are in a situation that is important, you always need to have someone with greater knowledge about the subject represent you. Just because it isn't all about money doesn't mean these people are just going to give up millions for nothing.

But coaching isn't nothing. If a player wants to coach they will, regardless of how much money they have or will get. You don't want to become a coach, you HAVE to become a coach. Its not a job, its a calling. No one would want to do a job like that without absolutely loving the game. You can say its a lot of money, but think of all the GREAT HS and Div 3, 2 and 1-AA coaches there are out there that make JACK SQUAT, yet work their asses off. They aren't doing it for the cash.

This completely off-topic and has absolutely nothing to do with why a player like Rich Gannon, who earned will in excess of $10 million dollars during his playing career and currently earns more than $4 million per year in the broadcast booth, would take a 70 hour per week job to earn $250 per year.

I know more than a few NCAA DI coaches around the country. They're well educated, intelligent, connected and make a good living. But don't think for a second that if ANY of these guys were offered $4 million to sit in the booth for 16 weeks, they wouldn't quit their jobs in a heartbeat.

I know they wouldn't. But its not because of the money. If they can coordinate a team in the NFL that makes them more successful. You're putting way too much emphasis on money. These people do what they do because they love the game. And the ones who don't love and just want the money? Ryan Sims, Jamarcus Russell, etc.

What I am trying to get across is its not work for these people if they really want to do it. It may take 100 hours a week, but if its what you love and what you desire to do, its worth it. And it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with proving you are the best, which is what these people have been doing their whole life. They aren't going to stop any time soon.

But I have a feeling there are a few NCAA coaches who would turn down Pro Jobs. I think even 20 years ago Paterno wouldn't have, nor Bowden. And even though its basketball, Coach K could be offered 20 million a year and he'd NEVER leave Duke

How old are you? 20? 21? How many NFL assistants do you know? How many college assistants do you know? How many times have they had to uproot their families in the past three years? The past five years? The past 10?

You have an extremely naive view of the world if you believe that ANY NFL or college assistant wouldn't give up the grind in a heartbeat to sit in a broadcast booth making $4 million per year, while living in the city of their choice with their family.

Another thing that you haven't considered is that most of these guys don't do this job because they "love it", it's because they can't do anything else. Do you think that guys in their 40's and 50's LOVE moving their families year after year? Do you think these guys "LOVE" worrying about whether or not they'll be able to keep their children in college?

You really don't get it.

Is there a particular reason why you feel the need to be a jackass, Dane? I agree with most of the points you make, but you could say the same thing w/o looking like a prima donna in the process.

Actually I do get it. Life isn't all about money. Although I'm not proud of it, I have been very poor as a child. I'm probably still poor by most people's standards (make about 15k a year). And I'm still here. If someone offered me a job paying me twice as much as I am now but I hated it, guess what? I wouldn't do it! Life is too short to be miserable, especially when you don't have to be. I'd rather live paycheck to paycheck then get up every day going, "crap, this is going to suck."

Pulling the age card on me tells me you're older. And for an older person I'm amazed you haven't figured out there is more to it than money.

To respond to the topic, I doubt Gannon would work as a position coach, but there's a possibility of Steve Deberg doing so since that's basically what he does already with NFL prospects. Weis is the likely option the Chiefs will take, but if they hired from outside the organization, deberg would be a good addition.