Are the Chiefs the worst team in the NFL?
 

I think we are. We will be 0-8. Not a good 0-8 either. The next 4 games will be destruction.

Who will we draft with the number 1 over all pick?

If we are not the worst, we are bottom 3 at best.

Currently? Without a doubt.
What I'm trying to decide is if they're the worst I've ever seen.

We are up there with the worst.

I'm still confused as to how some people are still surprised we suck this bad.

This game brought me back to the late 70's, early 80's Chiefs.

Just ****ing bad everywhere.

And people jumped on my ass when I stated that there's a chance they could go 0-16.

I think the Chiefs vs Detroit ends in 80,000 suicides.


We'll have a top 3 pick for sure.

Detriot is worse. But we are not out of the running yet.

We aint going 0-16.

Detroit might play as badly, but I think they're more talented.

I think the Titans are also 0-2....

Oakland and KC will play again to decide who drafts first

Sure.

I heard as a consolation for 0-16, the Chiefs get to play a UFL team.

So they'll likely finish 1-16.

We hope.

the bottom 3 from last year still seems like they are in the same order

Detroit, St. Louis and KC.

You can't say that they aren't.

09 chiefs>08 chiefs

Let's burn this mother ****er to the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the #1 pick?

Who is slated to be a mid-late first rounder?

Losing to a team that had a QB playing for us during the same game.

I struggle to think the Chiefs could beat Iowa State this year.

I dont know, but did anyone just see the SICK hit Greg Olsen of the Bears took...looked like he was having some kind of epileptic fit.

Considering the Chiefs history of taking defensive ends with their last three top picks, I think it's safe to say DE.

Iowa State would have less penalties

Every team in the league is better in the trenches than us. That makes us the worst. We got beat by J. Russ in the 4th quarter. He's the worst QB in the league with the worst WR's in the league.

Sure there is always a chance that any team could go 0-16, but no team in the 50 year history of the NFL ever went 0-16...until last year. The odds of this happening again are immeasurable, therefore such comments become easily welcomed.

Well, this team is better than Oakland. I think they showed that today. Killed themselves with penalties to end drives and to lengthen Raider drives. They were the better team today though.

I'm not sure, but they could be better than the Broncos AND Chargers too. The way we handled the Raiders today, after the way the Chargers struggled last week is encouraging. I guess we'll see if the Chargers really are that bad, or just had an off night. Broncos remain to be evaluated, but could be pretty shitty.

Plenty of other teams they could beat any given Sunday. We'll see.

Might as well go ahead and change our team logo now and get it over with.
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if you lose to the Raiders, yes, you are the worst team in the NFL

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Tebow!

This.ROFL

Plenty?

In the NFL?

And on the current schedule?

Agree to disagree.

uhhh thats 3 years in a row losing to the Raiders in Arrowhead. 3rd opening day lost in a row.

no, we beat Minnesota in 2007 in our home opener.

At home no less. If it was @ oakland there could be some debate.

We'll win 7 games. Keep the faith. There was more good than bad today. Take away the bogus penalties and we win this game.

Oh and this just in. The Raiders are WAY better than you guys think.

Well, at least this place is good for a smile.

Sure they are.

JaMarcus Russell normally plays like Tom Brady.

He just had an off day.

In the NFL, not all of the teams in the NFL are on our schedule.

Lions are still worse-but they could probably beat us right now.

I don't think the team is as bad as a lot of these chicken little believe, but 7 wins is delusional.

What do you base this delusional thought on?

Who? Who can this team beat, right now?

Tell me.

We'll ****ing miracle our ass into one or two wins.

I hope so.

0-16 would be absolutely unbearable.

I'd find it endlessly ****ing hilarious, to be honest.

I pretty much always think of Dante's Inferno before every Chiefs game

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."

BS, just ask! We went backwards.

I would effing LOOOOVE it. Sitcoms have been in the shitter since Arrested Development went off air.

They've proven themselves capable of playing well in isolated instances, and have equally proven themselves capable of butt****ing the football to happy ending.

It would be quite refreshing to see definitively which way Haley's gonna helm them, whatever way that turns out to be.

Weren't we the last team that lost to the Lions?

Also, we may want to Jax into the bottom 4 with the Chiefs, Lions, Rams...

Apparently Haley's, "I can pull 22 guys off the street and win two games" comment might come back to bite him in the ass. He's apparently relying on 22 guys off the street.

I've been saying this since before training camp.

Whitlock's going to have a field day with that comment.

Let's be honest, it's pretty easy to hate the Chiefs. The team doesn't give a damn about its fans, it just milks the Arrowhead mystique and shucks and devours its denizens en masse.

Clark Hunt doesn't care about football, and I don't really think that Lamar did after about 1975. They seem pretty content to make money off of revenue sharing and attempt to make the occasional wave to peak fan interest, so the turnstiles will keep rotating. They just raped the taxpayers into funding the vast majority of their stadium renovations while putting out some of the worst products in any two+ (soon to be 3) year period in NFL history.

People conflate Lamar Hunt the renegade who started the AFL with Lamar Hunt, the satisfied multimillionaire who could sit back and reap the rewards from one game while frivolously pissing away money on his real sports-related passion.

The Chiefs fans should be treated as first class citizens to the Hunts, because they'd be financially ruined without them, but they're really second class. They have been very adept at hoodwinking their customers into believing that was true in the 1960's is true now.

The most ridiculous thing about the whole Hunt situation is that he invested $25,000 to start the Chiefs. It's not like he had to shell out $1 billion dollar franchise fee like the Texans owner or even $250 million like the Jags and Panthers.

$25,000.00.

These guys (Hunt, Brown, Wilson, Bud Adams) were businessmen. Period.

They saw an opportunity in the marketplace and exploited it.

And now, nearly all of them are billionaires.

If you told me I could invest $25k and 50 years later, it would be worth a billion dollars, I'd tell you to sign me up yesterday.

Their worship is beyond me.

Hi Dane!

We dominated that shitty team today, and if not for a ton of stupid penalties and two turnovers, we win.

Why is it not suprising some people think you can rebuild a team in a few months?

I just hope KC doesn't pick a QB. We need one more than they do.

i think st. louis is the worst team

but we have the same number of wins...so poop in your hat i guess

The Hunts would not be financially ruined without Chiefs fans. You are kidding yourself if you think the Chiefs are any more than a small part of the pie when it comes to the Hunt fortune. As with most owners the team is the fun investment. FYI...Clark is the Chairman of the Board and the majority owner. The Chiefs are owned by 5 different Hunts.

I must not have watched the same game as lot of other folks. We dominated the Raiders, and did what inexperienced teams often do -- gave the game away. Given that neither team is going anywhere, I'd much rather be the Chiefs than the Raiders, who got dominated at the LOS by a bad team.

How many times in the 48 games Herm Edwards coached here did we outgain a team by 250 yards? I'm guessing 3-4 times, if that. Sure, this loss hurt, but there are quite a few positives to take from it.

The Hunt's were rich BEFORE the Chiefs. The Chiefs are not worth billions of dollars, they are worth one billion, singular. Not to mention inflation, $25,000 in 1960 is roughly the equivalent of $178,000 today. That's a 18.9% growth rate, which is fantastic, I really wish I could get that, but anyway. Don't paint a picture in a negative light just b/c your unhappy today.

If you're so sick of this team, find a new one. seriously.

Denver at Arrowhead. Every year, any year, no matter the records.:mad:

The Chiefs will NOT be picking a QB. That's just silly. This is the first time Cassel has ever run this offense, his first game of the year, 16th of his career, while coming off of injury. He's going to be fine. Solidify the line and get some receivers and he'll be a damn good QB.

We will trade it for some teams entire draft...

This loss would not be taken so badly if it weren't the Raiders. Not a just bad football team, the hated Raiders.

Dane, I think as bad as today was if KC would of made just one or two less mental mistakes they would have beaten the Raiders. Those are coachable issues that can be fixed. If you watched Haley's presser then you know he's already aware of the mistakes. I think you need to give the new staff time to get what is a very young team up to speed.

Bring back Herm?

Nah we'll just trade for players that other teams don't want like Cassel,and Vrabel.ROFL

So, what's your point?

I'm not sick of this team, I'm sick of fans like you.

It's a boat race between the Chiefs and the Bucaneers.

Well, that's all fine and dandy but we don't play the Raiders again for several months.

In the meantime, we have an absolutely brutal schedule ahead and the Chiefs could quite possibly play "perfect" games and lose big time.

They just don't have enough talent on the field this year to overcome the inevitable mistakes.

Well, it is what it is. KC can only be as good as their talent lets them be. As long as they're building an attitude and are coached well they'll surprise a few teams and win the games they're supposed to. It's a process. This franchise has been sucked dry of talent through just awful drafts.

when the Chiefs get a few wins this season I'm going to bump this thread and call everyone in it drama queens.

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Dude, you're preaching to the pastor.

I've been complaining about the Chiefs drafts on the 'Planet for years. I've been saying since 2007 that the roster has been depleted of talent. I've been countering people who told me that guys like Kevin Samson and Will Svittek and Tre Stallings "just needed time".

This roster is the least talented in the NFL and it's going to take a few years, at best, before they've got guys that can take over a game and WIN.

The Chiefs could beat Cleveland

pains me to say it and agree , but THIS

The Hunts also pissed away huge chunks of their fortune on idiotic investments.

Not the way they are playing now. They will be lucky to win 1 game, especially after they pissed it away today. They are bad and the coaching thus far is just as bad.

It's HOW they lost, rather than to whom...I think you can insert any shit team in there instead of teh Raiders and you'd get the same reaction. The way the Chiefs are playing now, if they could play themselves, they'd still find a way to lose...