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Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 03:35 PM

How far can you throw a football?
 
The other thread got me thinking about this. A few months ago I went out to the local HS football field to see how far I could throw a football. I have well-muscled shoulders but I couldn't get it over 30 yards.

Are NFL quarterbacks just born with the ability to throw a ball 50-60 yards (this is about as far as I remember anyone on the NFL quarterback challenge throwing a football), or do I just have shitty mechanics or something?

How far can you throw a football?

Sofa King 08-28-2009 03:36 PM

if the coach woulda put me in, we woulda won state, no doubt about it..

i bet you i could throw a football over those mountains.

http://www2.nwanews.com/blogs/slopho...uncle-rico.jpg

Titty Meat 08-28-2009 03:36 PM

Further than Chad Pennington

TFG 08-28-2009 03:36 PM

Zipped or floated?

I can throw a 20 yard zipped ball, and a 50 yard floater.

Buck 08-28-2009 03:37 PM

Just tested this the other day. 30 Yards.

I have scar tissue all in my shoulder though, hurts like hell to throw a ball.

I can throw it 20 yards with my left, which I'm getting better at. No Pain.

L.A. Chieffan 08-28-2009 03:37 PM

kyle boller could sit on his knees and chuck it 85 yards across the field to the oppostie sideline which calculated usinig the quadratic fromual and other highly scientific methods he could throw a pass 192 yards.

OnTheWarpath15 08-28-2009 03:37 PM

In HS, I had no problem getting 50+ yards. But myself and the backup were treated like pitchers, and had specific throwing workouts to strengthen our arms.

If I tried to do that now, I'd dislocate my shoulder.

Old age sucks.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6010421)
Zipped or floated?

I can throw a 20 yard zipped ball, and a 50 yard floater.

See, I tried both. Neither went over 30. Maybe I don't understand the mechanics of floating a ball. I can throw it at a different angle but it still only goes 30 yards. :mad:

JuicesFlowing 08-28-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6010420)
Further than Chad Pennington

But with less accuracy. :evil:

CrazyPhuD 08-28-2009 03:38 PM

I bet Tyler thigpen can throw it 90 yards off his back foot....too bad it'll be off by 90 yards too.. :-/

rambleonthruthefog 08-28-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 6010418)
if the coach woulda put me in, we woulda won state, no doubt about it..

i bet you i could throw a football over those mountains.

http://www2.nwanews.com/blogs/slopho...uncle-rico.jpg


lol:clap: love that movie. i was never able to throw a football very far. course i haven't tried in years. i always played RB and LB

TFG 08-28-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6010425)
kyle boller could sit on his knees and chuck it 85 yards across the field to the oppostie sideline which calculated usinig the quadratic fromual and other highly scientific methods he could throw a pass 192 yards.



Some of us think Kyle Boller for nothing was a better option than Cassel for a high Second and three times the cash.

Mr. Krab 08-28-2009 03:40 PM

Technique > strength

In fact the term "Arm Strength" is almost a complete misnomer, it has almost nothing to do with strength of your arm at all.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-28-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6010432)
Some of us think Kyle Boller for nothing was a better option than Cassel for a high Second and three times the cash.

:deevee:

JuicesFlowing 08-28-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFG (Post 6010432)
Some of us think Kyle Boller for nothing was a better option than Cassel for a high Second and three times the cash.

Kyle Boller is ****ing awesome. (Only with one of the best defenses in the league.)

TFG 08-28-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab (Post 6010435)
Technique > strength

In fact the term "Arm Strength" is almost a complete misnomer, it has almost nothing to do with strength of your arm at all.


True. The "most muscular" QBs often have weak arms. Brady Quinn comes to mind. Someone claimed Quinn had a "strong arm." I responded that indeed, Quinn has a strong arm in the weight room, not on the football field. Quinn vs. Dan Marino, arm wrestling and then throwing the ball...

Bwana 08-28-2009 03:42 PM

Further than Huard. :)

MOhillbilly 08-28-2009 03:44 PM

40-50 yds. maybe more.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 03:48 PM

Are doomy3 and Sofa King NFL quarterbacks?

OnTheWarpath15 08-28-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab (Post 6010435)
Technique > strength

In fact the term "Arm Strength" is almost a complete misnomer, it has almost nothing to do with strength of your arm at all.

True to a degree, depending on how you define arm strength.

Are you literally just talking about the bicep/triceps?

Are are you considering the shoulder?

IMO, and from experience, strength/stability in the shoulder is 100X more important than having a huge muscles between the elbow and shoulder.

MOhillbilly 08-28-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6010474)
IMO, and from experience, strength/stability in the shoulder is 100X more important than having a huge muscles between the elbow and shoulder.

lotta skinny armed kids can throw a football.

keg in kc 08-28-2009 03:53 PM

I bet I could throw one a hell of a long way.


And then my arm would fall off.

OnTheWarpath15 08-28-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6010478)
lotta skinny armed kids can throw a football.

That's my point.

I was one of those skinny kids.

MOhillbilly 08-28-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6010481)
I bet I could throw one a hell of a long way.


And then my arm would fall off.

.

itd be really funny if there were stick-um on the ball.

Buck 08-28-2009 03:54 PM

Before I injured my arm (playing baseball), I could throw a football at least 50 yards. Nowadays, I can throw the ball two or three times, but anything more makes my arm hurt like shit.

keg in kc 08-28-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6010486)
.

itd be really funny if there were stick-um on the ball.

That's why I wouldn't go straight from surfing the net to throwing the ball. I'd at least wash my hand first.

MOhillbilly 08-28-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6010487)
Before I injured my arm (playing baseball), I could throw a football at least 50 yards. Nowadays, I can throw the ball two or three times, but anything more makes my arm hurt like shit.

maybe your just a weenie.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6010478)
lotta skinny armed kids can throw a football.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...2croyle184.jpg

Demonpenz 08-28-2009 03:57 PM

i thought i threw a baseball atleast 70 but a bunch of my friends were playing with a radar gun not long ago i threw in the 60's they didn't throw alot harder.

Buck 08-28-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6010494)
maybe your just a weenie.

Nope. I'm pretty tall and big. I used to play QB when I was in Jr. High before getting switched to Tight End in High School. Now I'm just tall and fat.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6010502)
i thought i threw a baseball atleast 70 but a bunch of my friends were playing with a radar gun not long ago i threw in the 60's they didn't throw alot harder.

A few months ago I went out to the batting cages and got in the 80mph cage to see if I could hit an 80 mph "fastball." The first pitch whizzed by and I was IN SHOCK at how fast an 80 mph pitch gets on you. I fouled off a couple and got one solid hit in about 10 pitches. I got an incredible rush. I felt like calling up a major league team. ROFL

Buck 08-28-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010515)
A few months ago I went out to the batting cages and got in the 80mph cage to see if I could hit an 80 mph "fastball." The first pitch whizzed by and I was IN SHOCK at how fast an 80 mph pitch gets on you. I fouled off a couple and got one solid hit in about 10 pitches. I got an incredible rush. I felt like calling up a major league team. ROFL

Makes you appreciate guys hitting jacks off pitchers throwing 90+.

SAUTO 08-28-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 6010425)
kyle boller could sit on his knees and chuck it 85 yards across the field to the oppostie sideline which calculated usinig the quadratic fromual and other highly scientific methods he could throw a pass 192 yards.

ROFL rep.

Baby Lee 08-28-2009 04:05 PM

Tight spiral is worth an extra 10-15 yards.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6010526)
Tight spiral is worth an extra 10-15 yards.

See, I can actually do that. I know how to do that thing with my finger to make it spiral. But if I try to throw it as hard as possible, I lose control and end up throwing a duck. :cuss:

Pablo 08-28-2009 04:11 PM

I have long ape arms. The only true athletic ability I have is throwing things. Footballs, baseball, frisbees, anything. I can usually throw them hard and far.

My buddy bet me he could throw a football further and he was wrong. This was like 3 years ago, but I threw it 163 feet. That's like 54 yards.

ATM, I bet I'd be able to maybe hit mid-high 40's.

Pablo 08-28-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6010502)
i thought i threw a baseball atleast 70 but a bunch of my friends were playing with a radar gun not long ago i threw in the 60's they didn't throw alot harder.

Yeah, I hit 64 at the K Kid Zone and was severely pissed. But my buddy only threw 51 and we all laughed our asses off. It was ****ing hilarious. 11 year olds were owning him. But he was crow hopping when he threw but we just keep letting him throw with bad form so we could ridicule him.

Buck 08-28-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010530)
See, I can actually do that. I know how to do that thing with my finger to make it spiral. But if I try to throw it as hard as possible, I lose control and end up throwing a duck. :cuss:

Which Fingers do you put on the laces?

When I threw it at my best (I still do this, just I have a weak arm), I put my Ring Finger on the first lace, and my pinky on the third lace.

Simply Red 08-28-2009 04:18 PM

honestly 35 yards, a smaller ball, i can really toss far, i'm a gifted baller.

Mr. Krab 08-28-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010530)
See, I can actually do that. I know how to do that thing with my finger to make it spiral. But if I try to throw it as hard as possible, I lose control and end up throwing a duck. :cuss:

You need to jackoff more to strengthen that those fingers and wrist.

Stewie 08-28-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 6010518)
Makes you appreciate guys hitting jacks off pitchers throwing 90+.

If you played baseball until you were 18+ you'd see 90 mph all the time. It was no big deal because every team's ace usually threw hard. When I faced a 15-year old who threw 95 at Sho-Me baseball camp I knew I was over-matched. All the coaches were blown away by the kid. He had no control which made batting against him rather unnerving.

Oh, and back in the day I could throw a football pretty far. I was a pitcher in baseball so my form limited me in throwing a football.

DeezNutz 08-28-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6010574)
If you played baseball until you were 18 you'd see 90 mph all the time. It was no big deal because every team's ace usually threw hard. When I faced a 15-year old who threw 95 at Sho-Me baseball camp I knew I was over-matched. All the coaches were blown away by the kid. He had no control which made batting against him rather unnerving.

In the midwest?

I highly doubt you saw very many pitchers who actually hit 90. Very, very few.

If you're talking about Texas, California, or Florida, then maybe.

Valiant 08-28-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010427)
See, I tried both. Neither went over 30. Maybe I don't understand the mechanics of floating a ball. I can throw it at a different angle but it still only goes 30 yards. :mad:

That really sucks, keep practicing.. The average person should be able to at least duck the throw 30 yards..

Stewie 08-28-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6010580)
In the midwest?

I highly doubt you saw very many pitchers who actually hit 90. Very, very few.

If you're talking about Texas, California, or Florida, then maybe.

You don't know what you're talking about. So only kids in those locations can throw hard? Give me a ****ing break!

Buck 08-28-2009 04:30 PM

I only played baseball until I was 15 when I tore my arm out of its socket swinging a bat. I hit a homer though.

Valiant 08-28-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6010580)
In the midwest?

I highly doubt you saw very many pitchers who actually hit 90. Very, very few.

If you're talking about Texas, California, or Florida, then maybe.

I would think at least every HS team has one guy that can throw in the 90's for a fastball..

Pablo 08-28-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6010590)
You don't know what you're talking about. So only kids in those locations can throw hard? Give me a ****ing break!

No, he was probably suggesting there are a much higher volume of people and potentially gifted athletes in those regions so you'd be far more like to face the dude slinging balls at 90+ in those areas as opposed to the Midwest. Sort of the same equation with football players and basketball players...more likely to find superior talents in those states.

DeezNutz 08-28-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6010590)
You don't know what you're talking about. So only kids in those locations can throw hard? Give me a ****ing break!

I know that few kids throw 90. Period.

The best baseball players typically come from warm-weather states, and I know plenty about youth sports to say that most claims of how hard a kid throws are completely incorrect.

wildcat09 08-28-2009 04:35 PM

my little brother is only 5'9" and maybe 155 soaking wet but has long arms and he can whiz the chit out of a football. He also threw upper 80's as a pitcher. Its all in the mechanics.

DeezNutz 08-28-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6010611)
I would think at least every HS team has one guy that can throw in the 90's for a fastball..

No chance.

Stewie 08-28-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6010616)
No, he was probably suggesting there are a much higher volume of people and potentially gifted athletes in those regions so you'd be far more like to face the dude slinging balls at 90+ in those areas as opposed to the Midwest. Sort of the same equation with football players and basketball players...more likely to find superior talents in those states.

I was speaking of 18 +/- yo players who play at the highest levels, volume doesn't count. In KC it's Ban Johnson. If you aren't throwing around 90 you ain't pitching unless you have impeccable stuff.

wildcat09 08-28-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6010625)
I know that few kids throw 90. Period.

The best baseball players typically come from warm-weather states, and I know plenty about youth sports to say that most claims of how hard a kid throws are completely incorrect.


I know a kid from my hometown that played at JCCC that threw 95 and he was considered a freak back home. He was drafted my the Dodgers two years ago in the 5th round.

wildcat09 08-28-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6010611)
I would think at least every HS team has one guy that can throw in the 90's for a fastball..

absolutely not

DeezNutz 08-28-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcat09 (Post 6010635)
I know a kid from my hometown that played at JCCC that threw 95 and he was considered a freak back home. He was drafted my the Dodgers two years ago in the 5th round.

Exactly.

It's rare as hell for a kid to be throwing in the 90s, and those who do are playing at top collegiate programs or they are getting drafted.

wildcat09 08-28-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6010641)
Exactly.

It's rare as hell for a kid to be throwing in the 90s, and those who do are playing at top collegiate programs or they are getting drafted.

MLB teams with draft a kid that throws 90+ even if he struggles finding the strike zone. They figure they can teach him location but you can't teach velocity.

Silock 08-28-2009 04:49 PM

I have no idea. Maybe 40 yards on a good day.

CoMoChief 08-28-2009 04:51 PM

about 55 yrds. i know I can hit someone in the endzone standing on the 50 yd line. Did it all the time playing flag football at MU.

A lot of it has to do with the size of your hands. granted theres technique in throwing a football, but have you ever seen the size of Elway's hands? that guy could wrap his gorilla fingers around the damn ball. no wonder he could chuck it 80 yds.

Silock 08-28-2009 04:53 PM

I wonder how far Sasha Kaun could throw a football.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6010658)
about 55 yrds. i know I can hit someone in the endzone standing on the 50 yd line. Did it all the time playing flag football at MU.

A lot of it has to do with the size of your hands. granted theres technique in throwing a football, but have you ever seen the size of Elway's hands? that guy could wrap his gorilla fingers around the damn ball. no wonder he could chuck it 80 yds.

This might be my problem. The football feels a little big in my hands.

wildcat09 08-28-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010662)
This might be my problem. The football feels a little big in my hands.


you aren't one of the guys in the new Burger King commercials with tiny hands are you??

mlyonsd 08-28-2009 04:58 PM

When I was a sophomore in HS our coach had a pitcher from the local college (where Splittorf came from) come out and throw batting practice one time.

I was in the on deck circle when he warmed up. It was hot and we all had our shirts off. It was also back in the day when all the cool guys wore gold chains. I remember the guy getting in the batters box and the first pitch this college guy throws is a wild fast ball. The batter threw himself backwards and the ball clipped his gold chain. Between him going backwards and the speed of the ball the chain broke and landed at my feet where I was standing.

I about crapped my pants and when it was my turn to bat I can't even tell you I remember batting.

After that, there was only one guy in our city that could throw 90mph and I successfully fouled one off before striking out the one time I faced him.

A 90 mph fastball is crazy.

Buck 08-28-2009 05:03 PM

My friends cousin was drafted by the Red Sox, and the year after he retired due to injury I faced him.

He threw over 90 and had a mean curve ball.

I couldn't even see the 90 whizz by me, and the curve ball kept looking like it was going to hit my face before it broke across the plate.

CoMoChief 08-28-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6010661)
I wonder how far Sasha Kaun could throw a football.

I'd like to see him try. If he's half as reeruned throwing a football as he is playing basketball, Im more than sure it would be a great comedy sketch.

CoMoChief 08-28-2009 05:09 PM

Good friend of mine a couple years ago got drafted 45th overall by the Red Sox.

Kris Johnson, LHP from Blue Springs, pitched at Wichita St. Actually recovered from Tommy John Surgery after his soph yr in college IIRC.

He's a lefty, throws about low 90's and has some stuff. I think he's pitching AAA Pawtucket right now.

Over-Head 08-28-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010416)
. I have well-muscled shoulders from all the wacking off I do

FYP :thumb:

Phobia 08-28-2009 05:38 PM

I throw it far enough. Never really measured.

ZootedGranny 08-28-2009 05:43 PM

The last time I measured, just over 60 yards, but that was a couple of years ago. I could still probably wing it, but my arm would be dead the next day.

listopencil 08-28-2009 05:52 PM

A huge part of "arm strength" for QB's is just proper mechanics.

stevieray 08-28-2009 06:05 PM

wuta, phob, coach and dole all have decent arms..

I can prolly thow it with some 'zip" for 20 and 45 all out on a really good day.

I'm old.

KCrockaholic 08-28-2009 06:24 PM

50 to 60 yards is my max. I havent done this for a while now. Im very certain I could throw it from mid field to the middle of the endzone atleast.

Direckshun 08-28-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010662)
This might be my problem. The football feels a little big in my hands.

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Direckshun 08-28-2009 07:16 PM

My issue is that I don't have consistent mechanics, and I have trouble throwing a tight spiral for a longer throw.

I'm more of a cornerback, folks.

A little north of 30 yards, 15 with any accuracy.

Spicy McHaggis 08-28-2009 07:18 PM

Not that far, probably in the 35-40 range.

I actually lined up as a QB a couple times on our "gimmick" plays in High School but I just ran with the ball. I don't think anyone would have appreciated me trying to hit a guy on a deep post pattern.

mlyonsd 08-28-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6010785)
wuta, phob, coach and dole all have decent arms..

I can prolly thow it with some 'zip" for 20 and 45 all out on a really good day.

I'm old.

If you can throw it 45 I can throw it out of Arrowhead from the 50 yard line.

Easy 6 08-28-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 6010418)
if the coach woulda put me in, we woulda won state, no doubt about it..

i bet you i could throw a football over those mountains.

http://www2.nwanews.com/blogs/slopho...uncle-rico.jpg

Dang! I knew i couldnt have gotten that in first.

KCrockaholic 08-28-2009 07:41 PM

Check the size of your pointer finger. If your pointer finger is the same length as your middle finger you should be able to throw a mean, tight spiral. The best QBs pointer fingers are very long. Its the last finger to touch the football as it leaves your hand.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2009 07:42 PM

Who the **** plays catch with their neighbor? Are you gay? Sounds like a pre-emptive strike on his ass.

BigMeatballDave 08-28-2009 07:43 PM

Now, 30 yards. 15 yrs ago, 50 yards. That was with a regulation NFL ball.

KCrockaholic 08-28-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6010959)
Who the **** plays catch with their neighbor? Are you gay? Sounds like a pre-emptive strike on his ass.

Its the love of the game man. It doesnt matter who you play with as long as you just do it. Ill stick up for him on that.

Skip Towne 08-28-2009 08:02 PM

I'd love to see some actual trials to compare to these posts. I'll bet we would see some big differences.


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