Will you watch the UFL?
 

First game in 59 days!

Introuducing the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods!





http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,182341



With the league making its television debut 59 days from now, the United Football League figured that it might be about time to release some team names and some uniforms. The first two in the books are the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods. Those are the teams you see pictured above, with the Redwoods on the left and the Choo Choo Trains on the right.

It just so happens that these two behemoths will do battle in the UFL's inaugural game on October 10 on Versus.

The uniforms appear to be exactly the same in the design and pattern, with only the fruity colors differing. It doesn't look like the UFL plans on getting all that creative with logos, either.

I'll be honest with you: I'm a little disappointed in Vegas' name. I was hoping for something cheesier and more Vegas-y, like the Las Vegas Gamblers, High Rollers, Pit Bosses, Snake Eyes, or Doublers Down. But no, we get trains. Here's the explanation from the UFL's Roger Goodell, Michael Huyghue:

"Las Vegas was originally established in 1905 with the opening of the Salt Lake, San Pedro and Los Angeles Railroads. We wanted to honor the vast history of the city and the intrinsic benefits that this innovation provided to the community."

Well, hooray for railroad history. There's a topic that captivates America's youth.

As for the Redwoods, a name I like a little better (though it would seem to allow for the color red, or the color of trees to exist somewhere in the uniform), here's the explanation on that one:

"The Redwoods, large, strong trees native to California, symbolize many traits that the UFL and the California franchise plan to embody. The Redwoods and the UFL are reaching for the stars and are eco-friendly."

How important are uniform aesthetics and cool logos and nicknames to the UFL's survival?

The on-field product will certainly be inferior to that of the NFL, so I would guess that things like production value and making sure that nothing looks "minor league" would be important. On the other hand, the XFL and USFL had more distinctive and creative looking squads, and look where they are now. So who knows?

Announcements are still to come on the Florida and New York franchises. All primary colors remain available.

Grrrrrr...I don't have Versus in my programing package. Now that there's bullriding AND football, I might have to look into it.

If there isn't anything else on. Heck, i've even watched the CFL the other day to get a football fix.

It depends...are there going to be stripper poles on the sidelines?

Looking at their schedule online, it looks like the games will be played on Wed/Thurs nights.

Pretty smart. Six week season with a Championship game on Fri Nov. 27th.


http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule

Cool! Then I'll just watch the games at Dempseys Tavern on my usual Wednesday night beer-fest.

I watched the first XFL game.

I didn't watch any other XFL games.
I probably have seen 2 NFL Europe Games in my life.

So, I guess I probably won't.

You know, im thinking this league might work. a BIG might....

USFL, XFL, AFL and NFL Europe were springtime leagues.

At least this league is in the fall when football thirst is at an all time high.

I love minor league football. I have a Memphis Maniax helmet.

The UFL is ****ing reeruned. Weeknights? In the FALL? Are you trying to go out of business?

I'll probably watch once out of sheer curiosity.

Fridays are high school

Saturdays are College

Sundays are NFL


Whats their other options??

Nope

Locomotives? Are they ****ing serious?

I would; i liked watching NFLE during the off season. I liked watching AFL...so I would imagine i would enjoy watching the UFL.

This....

Whats wrong with week night football UP?

The question is when do we get to use them for online fantasy football..

Not a chance in hell.

I will put them on for background noise as I assemble the party shak this fall....

I would think the thirst for football would be higher in the offseason, and yet none of those other leagues have worked. As for me, I'll check out the first game if I'm not doing anything else, but if it is as lame as the XFL, count me out.

How about not playing in the ****ING FALL?

The idea of another league is to cash in when people crave it. On any given weeknight, you can flip to ESPN and watch a college football game or just watch an extremely popular TV show and get your football fix by actually going to a live game on the weekend.

As i mentioned already, they have tried spring time/summer football numerious times with past leagues and failed.

I think they decided to be different this time and go with the fall.

I honestly think this league would be wise to try and sign Vick to help create some "buzz"

The USFL was doing reasonably well with spring football, and died only when it tried to go head-to-head with the NFL in the fall. And back then, you couldn't watch 60,000 college games on a given weeknight.

The XFL was a complete cluster**** that still might have survived if it hadn't been so reliant upon NBC.

Honestly, this league makes the XFL look sensible.

I think having the league's season run in the fall is a big mistake. Have it in the spring, when NFL fans are thirsting for anything with a pointy-ended ball. Trying to have a new league go directly against the NFL is business suicide. I don't care if their games happen on the "off" days for the NFL; we wait, like junkies, for training camp and preseason and then the real games to start, and I doubt most of us will turn our attention even fleetingly to a "fake NFL" at the same time. Move it to February-through-July and you've got a deal.

hardcore fans like must of us on this board will always watch. What else are we going to be doing on Wed/thur nights while we are updating our fantasy rosters?

Spring time is College basketball.... Also after March madness, its time to get outside and take in the sweet weather.

Don't forget MNF

There are college games on now on those nights (Tuesday sometimes, too).

I doubt I'll watch the UFL, except maybe once, out of curiousity.

Only if I was forced to watch.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock...ckwork_big.jpg

No. No! NO! Stop it! Stop it, please! I beg you! This is sin! This is sin! This is sin! It's a sin, it's a sin, it's a sin!

For DIEHARD football fans, you watch any time football is on... PERIOD! Don't be blinded by the thought of it being a gimmick. Take it for what it is, more football!

League annnounces:

Veteran play-play announcer Dave Sims joins the broadcast booth with color analyst and former NFL standout Doug Flutie. Former Steelers Quarterback Kordell Stewart and radio and television host Anita Marks will serve as sideline and features reporters.

Games will be shown on the Vs. channel

http://www.ufl-football.com/press/20...s_ufl_telecast

The Redwoods??

Seriously, really??

Who's their Head Coach, Dick Schmoker??

I want to give the UFL a chance, but I also need a break from football for a few days to recharge my battery.

I think it's overkill to have it in the fall. No way I will watch the UFL over the Thursday night college game on ESPN. In addition, I will likely watch ESPN's MAC games on Wednesday October evenings over the UFL.

Dennis Green

Looks like most the games are Wed/Thursday and Sat.

If it was in the offseason I would like to watch it. Problem is that would run into problems with college, the draft, and so forth.

I would watch if DirectTV hadnt pulled Versus. I still think a Spring Football League would work. The thing is they need to due the NFL Europe like but have it in cities in the USA that would support it. All the other leagues failed bc they went after the NFL or wanted huge television numbers. XFL was great, I thought the level of play wasnt too bad trouble was they put it on primetime on national tv. Of course it was going to fail. Realistically 30 to 40k in attendance should be the benchmark, not the Neilsen ratings IMO.

Looks like most of the Versus games are Wed/Thurs, but it's all over the place with other games on HD Net.... Thursday the 8th (nope, Mizzou/Nebraska), Saturday the 10th... Then Wednesday/Saturday the next week, then Thursday, then Thursday/Friday, then Wednesday.

Even though they're going up against some pretty good Thursday night college games, I don't think having it in the Fall is a huge deal, but why not advertise it as "Wednesday night is for the UFL" or whatever.... having a startup league on two stations and 4 different nights is the dumbest part about it, especially when people don't generally think "hmm, wonder if there's anything good on Versus right now". Maybe it's just a test to see which nights work best, but I think they're setting themselves up for failure.

no

I'm pretty sure they tried like hell to sign him, and he did show some interest until they started talking numbers. they simply couldnt compete with the eagles salary offered.

if i remember right their offer was in the ballpark of $850,000 which was the max that league would allow. when the eagles offered him like 4 times that for being a backup the choice was easy.

not to mention he is still bankrupt and his lawyer and judge wouldnt have allowed him to take less money, i think he is still like 10 million dollars in dept.

But overall this league seems like it might have some sustainability, look at some of the coaches already signed up (Dennis Green, Jim Hasslet, Jim Fassel, and Ted Cottrell) and some that could eventually sign up if it catches on (Mike Shannahan, Herm Edwards, John Gruden, Romeo Crennel, Bill Billick, Scott Linnehan, and maybe even Bill Cowher). ya they're leftovers who werent much in the NFL *except for cowher* but this could be a good selling point to viewers.

lol wtf

seriously

I think I would prefer Dick Schmoker.

Damn, those unis are ugly.

Bump....

First game tonight!!!

on the Versus channel

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule



October 08, 2009
California Redwoods vs. Las Vegas Locomotives

For all the good it does us DirecTV customers. :grr:

Versus was on Dtv last year. It was about the only channel showing NHL games.

Comcast and DirecTV are in a pissing match right now over Versus so DirecTV yanked it.

I will watch tonight just like I did the XFL. I liked the XFL because it was football when there wasn't any. The problem they will have around here is the Nebraska/Mizzou game tonight and also DTV not having VS. anymore. It will be something to see for the first time. I am also wondering what the crowds will be like.

The What?
The Who???

Unknown Flop League

I just noticed they're on some obscure channel I've never even heard of. Furthermore, DirecTV doesn't even offer it anymore because Comcast raised the price too much.

How is some unproven football league worth anything but a freely broadcast channel?

No, I won't watch. They didn't make their programming readily available to watch.

Horrible mistake. I would gladly tune in if it was on some channel that didn't require me to buy another freaking TV service to watch.

I would if DirecTV put Versus back on. I used to watch that channel alot. It reminds me how ESPN2 used to be.

Holy Crap!!!!!!!!! You can watch Samie Parker's Locos go against Bobbie Sippio's Redwoods tonight !!!!!!! You just can't buy that kind of entertainment suckage.

http://www.ufl-football.com/players/profile/876

http://www.ufl-football.com/players/profile/787

Are you ****ing serious?

Wow, that really speaks to how awful the talent level on the Chiefs has been in recent years.

http://www.ufl-football.com/players/profile/876

http://www.ufl-football.com/players/profile/787

jfc

I don't need to watch yet another team of scrubs

I was more interested in the XFL... I have really no desire to watch guys that have a problem making training camp rosters in the NFL.

Talent is relative.

Samie Parker might be the Santonio Holmes of the UFL!

Wow.. the Florida Tuskers, coached by Jim Haslett.

They have Tatum Bell, Odell Thurman, Brooks Bollinger, Todd Sauerbrun... and a few other familiar names.

Hey - it's a gig for these guys, good luck to them... but, I can't watch. Those team names seem like such total give up names.

Jim Fassel coaches the Locos...

QB is JP Losman (ouch), David Kircus (remember him), Sammie Parker, Tim Rattay,

Dennis green coaches the Redwoods...

This thing was just painted with 3 coats of suck.

The "best" ticket is less than $50 with $7 bleacher seats for the most part... I guess it might be ok to take your kids for the price. I dunno.

Season Tickets prices

They also will broadcast some games on the HDNet channel.

Another station watched in approx. 13 homes across the nation.

This endeavor is just being planned horribly. You'd think they could get UPN or something to show games. Or at least some shitty Fox Sports channels.

There are so many reasons why these types of things fail... I think the XFL had the best shot, backed by McMahon and the WWE along with NBC (right, wasn't that the channel)?

There's just no interest... the arena leagues had a nice forumla that worked for a while. I definitely think something like this has a better shot of working if it's regionalized, areas that have no true connection to an NFL team... but they have a strong hunger and dedication to football...

But, then again, you're talking about a league that has a talent pool that excites very few...

There is interest - the thing is this you have to it in cities with no NFL teams, make sure their is a tie in with the NFL sort of a minor league system (aka make sure the teams have a fan base tie in), not depend tv ratings focus on stadium attendance 30 to 40k should be the target, and have in the spring.

Versus is the best cable sports channel after ESPN. Until they got in a pissing match with DirecTV, it was the perfect channel for it.

No. Not a chance.

the "locomotives" and "redwoods" and the ****ing "tuskers"?


some asshole got paid to come up with these names?


holy shit this is worse than PAL league squads...

what a ****ing catastrophe...

A buddy of mine (former Husker) is playing for the Redwoods

Fitting that the CA team has a very ghey green color.

Well... isn't it the only other exclusively sports channel on cable? So it isn't like they're beating a whole lot of other channels.

Its like saying the xbox is the 2nd most popular game system released by microsft after the xbox 360
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how sad

they went live in the locker rooms...looks like they're using old VHS recorders

Green was leaning against a chair and giving the least impassioned speech in the history of the world...

this is high school football

Wow this game is an embarassment to football. The uniforms are an embarassment to fabric.
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The uniforms suck real bad....

The quality has been less then impressive just from the little I've seen from it thus far.

Sippio!!!

TUSKERS, mother****ers.

At least they broadcast on their website. Not a bad stream.
http://www.ufl-football.com/versus.html

GARY STILLS SCREWED DANTE

Florida Tuskers have two former NWMSU Bearcats on their roster: OT Seth Wand (who had a decently long career with the Titans and Raiders) and QB Chris Greisen (who played briefly for Arizona before tearing up the Arena League).

So... I must root for the Tuskers. Relentlessly.

Oh, the Cleveland game. Such bullshit.

People care about high school football.