Glad we didn't go after Schwartz
 

The leading candidate for Schwartz's defensive coordinator post is the Chiefs' Gunther Cunningham.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3835911

Wow.

Maybe we can get a third for Gunther!!!

Maybe a third nipple.

They worked well before together, this doesn't surprise me.

I think we all already got a third hole, bent over by opposing offenses.

Great....are the Lions on our schedule next year?

oh my god Santa Claus is real


awesome

Perhaps Gun can be successful if he is the DC in name only, and his job is solely to motivate the troops.

*speechless*

Amazing.....simply amazing.

Think if you are a Detroit fan....JFC.

Let's just hope he takes goother.

**** me. This is unreal.

I'm surprised as Hell, but if he runs a real 4-3 defense he could be a middle of the pack defensive coordinator. Cover Two is far from his "expertise"(I use that word loosely). Herm entered a square peg in a round hole and it's just one more reason a GM with common sense will obviously suggest Herm has got go.

Looks like the Lions will continue to pick in the top 5 for years to come

Gunther can be a competent D-coordinator again if not saddled by this garbage Cover-Who defense.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. My bet is that he performs admirably and it shows to be a damning indictment of both Herm Edwards and this stupid defense he runs.

if we

1. Hire Pioli
2. Watch Gunther hired away (zomg!!)
3. Fire Herm


this will be the greatest week in Chief's history since the superbowl

There are also a couple of articles out there (I'm too lazy to search and link em) that say Gun's one of the leading candidates to replace Schwartz in Tennessee...

:clap:

Don't forget that Barney Priefer is maybe going to Denver.

It's like the organization announced Free Blowjob and Beer Day at the stadium.

Detroit has found the missing ingredient.

Really? As effective as he was when he wasn't saddled with it during the Vermeil years, or was able to run his own defense without anyone interfering during his head coaching days?

Man I can't wait for Gun to get canned...

How is this happening. Right now I am really think he intentionally ****ed up our D.

If Gun is a candidate other places, this whole staff has already been told they are fired.

Was wondering why this took so long to hit Chiefsplanet. I seen that lastnight on the Coalition and was like whoa. Makes sense though. It really does. The other assistance are leaving as well. Gibbs and Pfiefer (or however you spell it) are gone.

You would think after running the Tampa 2 for three years he may not be an expert but would at least be adequate. He had a shit ton of time to get it right, he's just a bafoon.

He legitimately had no talent on those Vermeil teams.

I think he's an average to slightly above average D-coordinator when put in a situation where he can shape his defense (and not try to contort it to the whims of a !@#$tard head coach).

Because Detroit has a whole LOT of talent waiting for him.

Hopefully Gunther's hitting the refresh button on his browser about now.

Wow we're on a roll with getting our assistants out of town. I'm just waiting to hear now that the Broncos have hired Dick Curl.

Sounds like Crennel's either going to heal his hip or stay in Cleveland as an undefined position. Who do you like as our next D-Coordinator?

Yep. This is a done deal.

Tim Krumrie!!! FTW!!!

He took over Greg Robinson's defense with the same talent, and the results were WORSE in 2004 than they were 2003.

I'm stunned actually. Only thing I can think of is what I mentioned earlier -- that Schwartz knows that all Gun is good for is motivating the players, and that Schwartz himself will be the brains behind the operation. Like when Marty and Gun were here.

Maybe.

But it takes a special type of talent to be the man who ultimately oversees a defense, which has been the focal point of FA dollars and day-one draft picks, that records 10 sacks. Total. For the mother****ing season.

He's a coordinator that can look competent if he has a hall of fame pass rush and good starting corners. Which makes him indistinguishable from 99% of the other defensive coaches in the NFL.

This is nepotism, nothing else. The good ol' boy network at its finest. Once you get into the league, you coach for life.

Not surprised at all. I think he can be a much better Defensive Coordinator if allowed to install his own personal defensive philosophy.

ROFLROFL Now that will get the season tickets moving again.

He's going to shit this down his leg if he goes to Detroit. They really have no talent on that side of the ball.

****ing Teflon.

Under Vermeil it was no talent. Under Edwards it was the "wrong system." Under Mel Brooks it will be ____. When will this ****ing stop?

#32. Hello!?! WTF?!?

Ah, that's until Gun puts his annual "wish list" together.

No. No. That was Carl.

Sweet.....maybe he'll get Detroit to trade us a 3rd round pick for Pollard......and a 2nd for Hali!

The odds of Detroit absolutely shitting the bed with the #2 overall selection just increased exponentially.

In Vermeil's last season as our Head Coach we had the 16th best defense in the NFL. Don't let that get in the way of your argument though.

Gun will fit in perfectly in Detroit. There is no accountability.

#1 but yeah....

How can a guy who still has a job be a leading candidate for the same job elsewhere?:hmmm: maybe herm has buckled and agreed to fire everyone else to save himself? sounds like the kind of thing that spineless **** would do, lay blame on others and assume none himself

It will be amusing to read about the first time someone in Detroit tries to hold him up for some cash and he breaks their necks with his bare hands.

Funny how the team as a whole can affect the play of a unit. When that "circus offense" scored a shit ton of points, it had a way of making opposing teams one dimensional.

Of course, it was Gun's brilliance (and vocal cords111) that made the difference. What happened in the following three seasons when more draft picks and FA dollars were used on the D? Herm? Carl? The chefs at Arrowhead?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Holy Jesus.

Good luck with that, Detroit.

Funny.....but answer me this.

How can he be in the running unless he's already been fired? I thought coaches weren't allowed to take the same job with another team.

Sorry. #1.

Gun apologists had me worked up.

IIRC, they can be given permission to interview for a lateral move.

Gibbs and Priefer have already interviewed. (Houston and Denver)

So then I'm under the assumption that everyone except Herm has been given permission to interview elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure they've already taken the jobs.

The Lions may not have even called to request permission.

So far, this reads as speculation because they worked together in Tennessee.

He just needs the right players. Eventually he'll find them.

Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen anything official, then again, I really haven't been looking.

Maybe we can trade Gunther and the #3 pick for their #1 overall.

I think you're right.

http://api.ning.com/files/TS3aWMWV-4...9_Coverart.jpg

"We will be REAL Lions
and go for the heart
and then the head"

Obviously, Shefter was correct when he said all the assistants were free to search elsewhere.

One of two possiblities for Herm:

He's already been fired like the rest of them, and this is all a face-saving charade. (likely)

Herm is being considered for next year, but Pioli will be picking his staff. (unlikely)

Imagine a team coached by Brian Shottenheimer and Gunther.

Oh, wait.

The very same offense didn't have that effect on the defense the year prior.
And for most of Vermeil's administration.

> GRob does not equal good.

The one name I see in that report that I'd like to have in KC is Jeremy Bates as OC.

Guess it's good that I never compared the two then, huh?

I said he could be a much better Defensive Coordinator if allowed to coach a philosophy he believes in.

Agreed.

Gun is a total clown, a total fraud

can't believe people defend him

Of course you did. The comparison was implicit by saying that the offense didn't have the same effect before Gun's arrival.

I know. That's why I spouted off about Teflon. Sorry, IMO, anyone who is remotely tied to this historically bad defense has to go down with the ship. Gun. Our "defensive minded" head coach. No one gets a pass.

They were all pivotal in perfecting the shit sandwich that was the '08 KC Chiefs defense.

How much of a meltdown would the Planet have had?

"We'd like to announce that Herman Edwards has been released from his position of Head Coach and we've hired Jim Schwartz."
:clap::D:thumb::BLVD::holdman::rockon:PBJ:toast:


"Jim Schwartz will be retaining Gunther Cunningham as his Defensive Coordinator"
:cuss::cuss:ROFL:grr::shake::doh!::banghead::deevee::lame:lame::sulk:rochambeau

That football game makes me sad. So ****ing crappy.

I am not at all in favor of him staying on with this organization.
Please don't get that confused.

He should've been gone 2 weeks ago.

He rode the coattails of Derrick Thomas. There is no excuse for his defenses having the same deficiencies year in and year out.

I want Gunther gone more than I want Herm gone. I'm glad as hell we didn't hire Schwartz.

We're on the same page, then.

I wish him well at his next stop. He was a bigger man than me to be able to swallow his pride and return to KC in the first place.

Paying for that big house and his wife's spending habits trumps pride everytime.
It's not like NFL gigs are laying around.

Somebody would actually hire Gunther Cunningham? The author of the worst defense in the league? The guy who was able to wring one whole sack out of the best defensive lineman in the draft? That Gunther Cunningham?

Apparently Greg Robinson isn't available. Nor are they able to find a corpse to prop up along the sideline.

Good god.

But by all means, TAKE HIM.

That's true enough.

I'm sure that Lions fans will be pleased to know that their new HC wants to replace the coach of the worst D in the NFL with the coach of the 2nd worst D in the NFL. That's progress you can measure.

Well remember, Gun is the one that went to Carl with his "list" and then proclaimed, publicly, that Carl went out and got him every single player he needed to turn the defense around. Kendrell Bell was all Gun. And the results? You know the results. This was not about being handcuffed. If anything, Vermeil was handcuffed by Carl in terms of forcing Gun onto him.

And remember, Gun was out there throwing Vermeil under the bus and saying how it was great to be coaching for Herm, and went out and even got himself some new assistants to work with. He still sucked.

The only way Gun can be successful is if someone tough like Fischer or Marty hands him an already molded D and tells him to go call plays with those guys. Most coaches would be successful with the James Hasty's and the DT's and the Neil Smiths of the world. The issue comes in two, three years into his tenure, where the players start losing their discipline and accountability and he brings in misidentified talent because he thinks he can mold anyone into a football player. Chester McGlockton was all Gun convincing Marty and Carl that he could light a fire under Chet's butt.

At the end of the day, Gun sucks...