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Vegas_Dave 01-16-2009 09:21 AM

Had to fire my first employee...
 
So in the family business, I have never personally had to deal with any of the hiring/firing personel issues, thats what we have a General Manager of the chain for.

Well, yesterday I popped my firing cherry.

I caught paperwork evidence of an employee who at one time was a full time store manager (now part time because of his school schedule) was stealing (embezzling) from that store.

Best part, I was able to get a full confession out of him and got it recorded on a digital audio recorder WITH his full knowledge that the recorder was present.

Sadly, we can only prove the amount from 4 total invoices. BUT, in the past 12 months, I can prove a total of almost 200 invoices. So the case will likely get pled down to a misdemeanor.

It was satisfying to get the confession though.

Goapics1 01-16-2009 09:23 AM

What was he stealing?

JOhn 01-16-2009 09:42 AM

Felt good didn't it? :D

It just gets easier now ROFL

Dave Lane 01-16-2009 09:57 AM

I always worried I'd have one completely flip out and have to drop them like a rock. Never did happen so maybe the next one? First 100 are the hardest.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 09:59 AM

Hard ass...

Gonzo 01-16-2009 10:02 AM

You're just giving him the opportunity to succeed elsewhere.

(That's usually what I tell my employees when their getting shit canned.)

JOhn 01-16-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396142)
Hard ass...

Exactly. I bet if he was paid a decent wage he wouldn't have to "supplement" his income. ROFL

Simplex3 01-16-2009 10:04 AM

I've never had any issues firing people for cause. **** them. They did it to themselves and every time they've had ample warning beforehand.

Firing people because the business needs to make cuts to survive is a little different, but I figure it's better to screw up one person's life than it is to keep them around knowing I can't afford them and then closing the business, thereby screwing up everyone's lives.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOhn (Post 5396151)
Exactly. I bet if he was paid a decent wage he wouldn't have to "supplement" his income. ROFL

If Dave did that, then he couldnt afford to sit around and play on Chiefsplanet all day...

LMAO...

RJ 01-16-2009 10:07 AM

Was it because your taxes were raised?

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-16-2009 10:21 AM

You should have kicked his ass! And done it in front off the other employees so they'd get the message!

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5396190)
You should have kicked his ass! And done it in front off the other employees so they'd get the message!

Violence isnt the answer...

Simplex3 01-16-2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396196)
Violence isnt the answer...

What if the question is "How do I win in a fight?"

Reerun_KC 01-16-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3 (Post 5396241)
What if the question is "How do I win in a fight?"

Violence...

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-16-2009 10:37 AM

I once had to wake a guy up who was sleeping on the table in the break room while he was suppossed to be on the air and almost literally drag him out of the building. That was awesome.

nychief 01-16-2009 11:51 AM

please tell me it was Herm.

blueballs 01-16-2009 01:11 PM

He'll claim he needed it for crack
you'll get stuck with rehab costs

teedubya 01-16-2009 01:17 PM

It's hard to pay for fake tits, when you have employees stealing from you.

sedated 01-16-2009 01:18 PM

my first firing I was so nervous I could barely talk.

every one after that was like Arie Gold. "Get. The ****. OUT!"

Goapics1 01-16-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5396837)
my first firing I was so nervous I could barely talk.

every one after that was like Arie Gold. "Get. The ****. OUT!"

How many times you been fired?

crazycoffey 01-16-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3 (Post 5396154)
I've never had any issues firing people for cause. **** them. They did it to themselves and every time they've had ample warning beforehand.

Firing people because the business needs to make cuts to survive is a little different, but I figure it's better to screw up one person's life than it is to keep them around knowing I can't afford them and then closing the business, thereby screwing up everyone's lives.


yeah, I agree with Simplex here, I know they did it to themselves for every fired/terminated employee. Mostly sleeping on duty, warned and caught. See ya.

today I had to inform about 4 people from cut backs mean they will be leaving soon. sucks but there are pros and cons to everything. Good luck vegas_dave

StcChief 01-16-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5396190)
You should have kicked his ass! And done it in front off the other employees so they'd get the message!

a nice note to all why he isn't there... may curb the "insider" shrinkage.

BTW supposedly "shrinkage" is way up everywhere and not just insiders. :shake:
can't afford to buy it..... steal it.

Buehler445 01-16-2009 02:08 PM

Fraud is a very big deal. Very big. I read an interesting statistic that the average fraud case goes 18 months before detection....and that's the ones they catch.

Congrats on bettering your business.

JOhn 01-16-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396196)
Violence isnt the answer...

Yes but sometimes it's the question. :D

Otter 01-16-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5396864)
sucks but there are pros and cons to everything

What if you're crossing the street, get hit by a bus, drug for 30 yards on gravel then trapped under it's tire while gasoline leaks out around you and there's a deaf & blind man playing with matches five feet away?

What's the pros to that situation?

tomahawk kid 01-16-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397029)
What if you're crossing the street, get hit by a bus, drug for 30 yards on gravel then trapped under it's tire while gasoline leaks out around you and there's a deaf & blind man playing with matches five feet away?

What's the pros to that situation?

If you live, you're going to be a rich man.......

Goapics1 01-16-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397029)
What if you're crossing the street, get hit by a bus, drug for 30 yards on gravel then trapped under it's tire while gasoline leaks out around you and there's a deaf & blind man playing with matches five feet away?

What's the pros to that situation?

Why the hell would a deaf/blind man be playing with matches in the first place?

crazycoffey 01-16-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397029)
What if you're crossing the street, get hit by a bus, drug for 30 yards on gravel then trapped under it's tire while gasoline leaks out around you and there's a deaf & blind man playing with matches five feet away?

What's the pros to that situation?


make one hell of an after school movie?

ShortRoundChief 01-16-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goapics1 (Post 5397047)
Why the hell would a deaf/blind man be playing with matches in the first place?


smoker with no lighter?


:shrug:

crazycoffey 01-16-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goapics1 (Post 5397047)
Why the hell would a deaf/blind man be playing with matches in the first place?

if one can be a pinball wizard, maybe another can be a famous pyromaniac....
:shrug:

Otter 01-16-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5397044)
If you live, you're going to be a rich man.......

The bus is a 1992 old school bus that hippies have been living in for the last six months. They're uninsured and as soon as they hit you they fled the scene leaving you alone with the match wielding senseless man. Every time you try to get his attention by throwing bits of gravel at him he becomes more nervous and lights more matches.

Just saying - maybe there's not pros to every situation. :D

Incredibly bored at work may have something to do with it as well.

ShortRoundChief 01-16-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5397058)
if one can be a pinball wizard, maybe another can be a famous pyromaniac....
:shrug:

That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure sets a mean bon fire.

ShortRoundChief 01-16-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397080)
The bus is a 1992 old school bus that hippies have been living in for the last six months. They're uninsured and as soon as they hit you they fled the scene leaving you alone with the match wielding senseless man. Every time you try to get his attention by throwing bits of gravel at him he becomes more nervous and lights more matches.

Just saying - maybe there's not pros to every situation. :D

Incredibly bored at work may have something to do with it as well.

dude hippies don't drive.

crazycoffey 01-16-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5397083)
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure sets a mean bon fire.


ROFL ! awesome!!!!

Otter 01-16-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5397086)
dude hippies don't drive.

http://www.haveagroovyday.com/images/byebus01.jpg

JOhn 01-16-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397080)

Incredibly bored at work may have something to do with it as well.

That would be my guess :shrug:

redsurfer11 01-16-2009 03:17 PM

Now he can collect max benefits from unemployment. Hired full-time and switched to part-time = max benefits. Whether you fired him for stealing or not.

Vegas_Dave 01-17-2009 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5396835)
It's hard to pay for fake tits, when you have employees stealing from you.

Are you an elephant... cause your memory is just plain sick. :)

ShortRoundChief 01-17-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5397120)


Not only is it not moving but there are no hippies behind the wheel.

Seems hippies can paint cars though.


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