Carroll's Comments on Sanchez
 

I know this has been posted in other threads but I thought it deserved a little personal attention since there seem to be a lot of USC fans on here.

Is it just me or did Pete Carroll come off like a total asshole in his comments about Sanchez leaving? I can't find the full quote yet but he made it clear that he thought it was a terrible decision and Sanchez is not ready. I am usually a fan of Carroll and as someone who lives in L.A. (although not a USC fan) I think he is a great ambassador for college football who carries himself with a lot of class.

What's with his complete lack of support?? Any USC fans wanna enlighten me?

And yes I know he's dissappointed to lose him. I just thought Carroll was above being that petty.

sounds like he's a little worried with no one to replace him, but i'm not too sure ask mecca

They have Mitch Mustain ready to step in. Plus Aaron Corp waiting in the wings. Plus Matt Barkley on the way.

this was Sanchez' fourth year at USC... gimme a break. let him go...

exactly

Transfer from Arkansas. Parents got into it with Houston "Busta" Nutt, allegedly.

then why the hostility? mustain> sanchez IYO? obviously not in his

Right now? No. But I think Mustain will be more than serviceable and could turn out better.

Nutt netted two top recruits, Mustain and Williams but insisted on playing McFadden in the "Wildcat" role. The team was 8-0 with Mustain as a starter and then he benched him for Casey Dick. Both Mustain and Williams transferred to USC.

better? i doubt it we'll see

USC is losing a big chunk of their defense. I think Carroll was counting on his offense carrying the team for a while until the D got their feet under them. Now he has to break in a new QB (and new offensive coordinator) along with the new defenders.

All of this is kind of my point. There are always going to be QB options at USC. That makes me think Carroll's comments were legit in that he thought Sanchez wasn't ready. Still, whats done is done. Why throw some discouraging comments at him on his way out the door??

it's Self serving by Carroll. right or wrong he can't lose.

Of course Sanchez isn't ready for the NFL. No one is when they've only had one year of college playing exp.

It's ****ing laughable that people want to draft him with our top 3 pick LMAO

I'd take Stafford before Sanchez. Sanchez is not ready yet, Bradford was more ready than Sanchez was.

Maybe he wants to lower Sanchez's ranks to go lower in the draft? so some team could pick him?

That's a shitty thing to do to a kid.

I totally agree.
Sanchez will not do shit in the NFL. If I'm wrong I will eat crow, but I'm quite confident in this one.

I don't think he is better prepared than Leinert.. and I think Leinert was better in College.. IMO

After listening to the local radio, and reading some of the USC sites, I just think that Pete felt so strongly that Mark was making a mistake that he couldn't help letting his feelings show.

Granted, Pete is the coach, should be above all of that, but there it is. He's always been a passionate guy and this was a prime example of it.

There have been a few USC guys who have declared early, some have worked out (Lofa Tatupu, Reggie Bush, Chilo Rachal, Deuce Lutui) some haven't (Mike Williams, Darnell Bing, Manny Wright), so maybe he had those guys in mind.

In the end, I think Pete does have Mark's best interests at heart. I think he put it best in one interview I read: "It's like a family member, you're not going to stop loving him just because he makes a bad choice."

There is no QB in this years draft worth us picking in the first 2 rounds.

Carroll is known for trying to keep players at USC regardless if it is in their best interest to leave for the draft or not.

For anyone with half a brain, this definitively means there are multiple QBs in this years draft worth picking in the first 2 rounds.

Really you don't think Bush has been a little bust? He was a top pick and really has no impact for the Saints
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Bush is Bust, Leinart is bust

omg not Leinhart !1!!1!!!!!111

Doesn't really matter...Sanchez will never be a KC Chief anyways....that is, unless he falls to the 3rd or 4th round and we nab him as a project. The potential is there with Sanchez but he has a ways to go IMO. One more year of college would have helped him tremendously. Either way I hope for the best for this kid, he seems like a good kid.

Harrell is the only QB we should look at and he can be had later.
Stafford is overrated and Sanchez has bust written all over him.

ROFL

Your status as the dumbest poster on this board is growing by the post.

yeah I care what you think,lol
Im sorry please don't make me cry, then I would have to wipe my tears with all my cash,lol

Maybe you and Leinhart can cry together.

Im not saying he won't be shit in the NFL. Another year playing in college would greatly help him IMO.

Going pro now IMO is just setting him up for disaster. Could be wrong, but you dont hear of 1 yr starters in college go on to become great in the NFL.

I think it's Leinart dipshit!!
I don't root for Florida, I'm still content with Notre Dames 12 Titles!

exactly.

Ive never ever heard that but whatever I guess.

Of course it's Leinart. Nice edit, ignorant douche.

Paging Mecca, Paging Mecca...Mecca please report to the lounge to respond to this thread.

You're probably not old enough to remember the last one.

Oh God damnit......you're a Notre Dame fan? You make other Irish fans look bad.

Are you 12, or just that big of a dumb****

Nice victory over WVU at the Fiesta Bowl Sure was nice!!
Tony Rice was the man and Major Harris was no match

Other college coaches have tried to use it against him when recruiting, but with little/no success. The dude is a good coach, I just think he doesn't like the NFL much after his time there and wants to keep his best players.

All he's gonna do is hurt the draft position of a guy he claims to care about.

Thank God USC has dominated for so long.
maybe in 10 years they can even the series, I don't think so...
Notre Dame leads the rivalry series over USC 42-33-5

This might be the single dumbest post in CP history.

And that's saying a lot...



I'm sure Stafford and Sanchez came out early thinking they'd be 3rd round picks...

ROFL

You might want to wipe the paint chips off your chin.

Well, lately ND isn't relevant to anything. They suck, and it doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon.

Agree.

BANG.

Him and Frankie can have a circle jerk together about all QB's arent worth first round picks.

Dude Notre Dame sucks and sucks so ****ing bad people forgot they were any good 20 years ago.

Newsflash.....no one gives 2 shits about championships that occured around the time before most people on here were born.

YEP i have always felt as though carroll is a self serving asshole

why do that? like i said self serving

most on here werent born in 1988(IIRC) and no i'm not a ND fan

Responding to some of the previous posts, Aaron Corp passed Mustain on the depth chart towards the end of the season. It's a good bet that he'll be USC's starting QB next season.

I think he was starting to come around this year before he got injured. And I'm not closing the book on him. But I wasn't really referring to their NFL careers per se, I was talking more about where they got drafted and whether it was a good decision financially.

There's a lot of talk about Sanchez going high in the draft, but that could change in the next three months. If, for whatever reason, he falls to the second or third round, he may look at this decision in a different light.

Coming from someone that thinks Thigpen is the guy...this is pretty funny.

And agreeing with the DT guy about anything should pretty much be enough to get you auto banned for being one reeruned mother****er, you sharing an opinion with literally the dumbest poster on the forum is telling.

He's so known for it that he encourages all players to put in to the evaluation committee.....

Did this turn into a bash SC thread or something?

NO ITS kinda a bash carroll thread, and if he actually came out on air and said sanchez isnt ready thats REAL ****ed up.

Hell, lately I think North Dakota could beat Notre Dame.

Yes, this is what I meant. If Sanchez stayed in school and progressed as a college QB before moving to the NFL, I would have faith in his future.

With Sanchez coming out early like this, he will have a very short career imo.
I mean, there are athletes like Lebron James that can afford to skip out on that experience, but that is the NBA, and Sanchez is NOT that badass of an athelete.

Yea coming out early sure killed that Roethlisberger guy.

Well, Ben did start 3 years in College.

Sanchez reminds me of Fez, lookswise that is.

zing!

It isn't a matter of coming out early. The issue is starting only one year.

Sanchez only started for 1 complete season. However, he also started 3 games in 2007.

I just hope we have a rookie 1st round QB on our roster with the initials M.S.

In recent history have there been any successful QB's taken in the first two rounds of the draft with less than 20 collegiate starts?

Here's that under 30 (not even 20) starts list again: Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Alex Smith.

This decade there hasn't been a QB taken in the first 2 rounds of the draft with less than 20 collegiate starts. Therefore, there aren't any that have been successful or unsuccessful.

Matt Cassel didn't start any college games to my recollection...

Not saying he's a great QB or anything...but I believe the system in place and the people around you, as well as talent and mindset has more to do with success than the # of college starts.

If Sanchez is who Pioli takes at #3, keep Thigpen as the starter and give Sanchez a year to learn the ropes with a clipboard in his hand...

If Thigpen shits the bed turn over the reigns to Sanchez mid-season.

If Thigpen lights it up, well then, that's a problem I'm willing to experience.

# of starts becomes less important with QB's taken in later rounds because they aren't expected to come in and play right away and can sit on the bench for 3 years to get caught up. You can't take a QB in the top 5 and sit him 2-3 years.

No, but you also don't have to start them right away. Of the 30 & under guys you mentioned all except Vick were rushed into a starting spot as rookies.

Why not?

The only way Sanchez sits for 2 years is if Thigpen becomes a quality QB and leads us to playoff victories...and if that's the case, I'm ok with Sanchez being on the bench...

If we draft a QB #3 and one of our QB's steps up and becomes a franchise quality QB I'm totally ok with the #3 pick on the bench...

It's a moot point though. I doubt Thigpen, Gray or Croyle are going to be THAT guy...so Sanchez sits a year, or half of a year, and then takes over.

You can't tell me another year at USC would have done some sort of miracle work on the guy...he either has it, or he doesn't...and if we draft him, we'll get to find out.

Teams try to start rookies. Especially ones that were just handed 40 mil guaranteed. Especially on teams where there is no current viable QB.

Like Cincy did with Carson Palmer?

they had jon kitna who took them to the playoffs IIRC

I don't see a scenario in which Thigpen doesn't open up the 2009 season as starter, other than injury.

I don't see how you think there is no current viable QB...Thigpen weathered the storm last year...stayed healthy and played decent football for a horrible team.

You can point to Ryan (rare, rare, rare case) and Flacco (wouldn't have been the starter if Troy Smith didn't suffer that fluke pre-season tonsil issue)...but the Chiefs aren't in a hurry, especially if they draft Sanchez...

And if they don't draft Sanchez or Stafford and take someone in round 2, 3 or 4...then you can bet 100% Thigpen will be opening day starter.

I mean the guy had a decent season, at least statistically, I'm pretty sure the coaching staff is going to give him first chance to **** up before they turn over the reigns to the rookie.

Kitna was having a career year in 2003. Palmer most likely would have been given the nod earlier if Kitna was playing like he had in the past.

and they promptly kicked him to the curb the following season because they had a plan...

Thigpen isn't a journeyman QB like Kitna...he's a young guy with ability...if he progresses this offseason and plays good football, displays some accuracy and better decision making...I'll take it. I'll take all of the talented QB's we can get...I'll take a Drew Brees/Philip Rivers situation in a heartbeat.

I don't know why anyone would think that Thigpen is the starter for next year. He hasn't proven the ability to be able to work from behind center. It would be stupid to draft Sanchez and have him learn behind Thigpen in a system that will be abandoned as soon as Sanchez were to take over.

Nope. That was never in the plans for Palmer...they drafted him and everyone knew Cincy didn't want him to see the field that year. Not after Tim Couch...Cincy had front-row tickets to that disaster in Cleveland.

This is what I would like to see happen if we do, in fact end up with Sanchez.
However if we get Stafford, I say we let him fight for the job in camp, which he will most certainly win.