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luv 01-14-2009 05:58 PM

Stafford or Sanchez?
 
Which would you rather have?

kcchiefsus 01-14-2009 06:00 PM

I'm worried about how few games Sanchez has started.

Direckshun 01-14-2009 06:02 PM

They're not too dissimilar, but I think Sanchez has the better upside.

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5391104)
They're not too dissimilar, but I think Sanchez has the better upside.

really? Stafford seems like the very definition of "upside"

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:06 PM

This should have been a public poll.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Well Stafford does have 3 years of starting experience so there is much more film to look at.

ChiefsCountry 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Stafford - Elway
Sanchez - Aikman

Doesnt matter to me which one.

rad 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391124)
This should have been a public poll.

Why?

ChiefsCountry 01-14-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391124)
This should have been a public poll.

You just wanted to see all the reeruns who picked DE or other.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rad (Post 5391134)
Why?

See where people stand that don't post a comment in the thread?

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5391133)
Stafford - Elway
Sanchez - Aikman

Doesnt matter to me which one.

it should, Elway was a much better quarterback imo

Elway could win a game with a minimal surrounding cast
Elway won a championship as soon as he got a decent running game

Aikman was surrounded by talent and hung on for the ride

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5391139)
You just wanted to see all the reeruns who picked DE or other.

ROFL

Actually, I didn't even see that as an option when I voted...

Skimmed right over it.

StcChief 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

sounds like Stafford is staying at OU.
see you next year when we are 4-12 or 5-11.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5391144)
it should, Elway was a much better quarterback imo

Elway could win a game with a minimal surrounding cast
Elway won a championship as soon as he got a decent running game

Aikman was surrounded by talent and hung on for the ride

:spock:

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

I think either guy is fine, I think Stafford has earned the right to be drafted higher but I think they're close in terms of prospect status.

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rad (Post 5391134)
Why?

so he could go around telling people how stupid they are compared to him.

:rolleyes:

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391150)
sounds like Stafford is staying at OU.
see you next year when we are 4-12 or 5-11.

That's Bradford.....get with the program.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

I'm going to go ahead and trust Mr. Pioli's choice on this one.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5391155)
so he could go around telling people how stupid they are compared to him.

:rolleyes:

With you, Laz, I don't need to know how you vote.

Comments like this speak for themselves:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5391144)
it should, Elway was a much better quarterback imo

Elway could win a game with a minimal surrounding cast
Elway won a championship as soon as he got a decent running game

Aikman was surrounded by talent and hung on for the ride


Mecca 01-14-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391152)
:spock:

Only on this forum are there people that believe Aikman was a game manager or carried by the rest of his team, it's pretty sad.

luv 01-14-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391124)
This should have been a public poll.

I thought about it, but I didn't want anyone to be swayed based on who voted.

blueballs 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

I can say
I've never seen either play

Sully 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391150)
sounds like Stafford is staying at OU.
see you next year when we are 4-12 or 5-11.

I don't know...but I doubt Stafford is staying at OU.

luv 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5391166)
I can say
I've never seen either play

Based on just the Bowl games they played in, I was much more impressed with Sanchez.

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391157)
I'm going to go ahead and trust Mr. Pioli's choice on this one.

This and that.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:14 PM

prefer Stafford

would be thrilled to tears with either

StcChief 01-14-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391172)
I don't know...but I doubt Stafford is staying at OU.

well... Detroit needs a QB. So do the Rams Bulger isn't it long term. waiting for Chiefsplanet blow up when they are gone
and we trade down.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391191)
well... Detroit needs a QB. So do the Rams Bulger isn't it long term. waiting for Chiefsplanet blow up when they are gone
and we trade down.

Awesome job of you to miss what he meant.....

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391191)
well... Detroit needs a QB. So do the Rams Bulger isn't it long term. waiting for Chiefsplanet blow up when they are gone
and we trade down.

ROFL

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:17 PM

Stafford, Sanchez has open recievers all day. He has the best defense to help him win games as well.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391201)
Stafford, Sanchez has open recievers all day. He has the best defense to help him win games as well.

We found another guy that's never seen a USC game, Mecca.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:18 PM

LOL.....Sanchez has open receivers all day...uh yea ok.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391206)
We found another guy that's never seen a USC game, Mecca.

Obviously Patrick Turner runs a 4.2 and the USC line is the greatest line in the history of sports and Sanchez never gets touched..

I think people just see the name "USC" and just assume things...it's reeruned, Sanchez has to consistently make NFL throws for his team to move the ball.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391191)
well... Detroit needs a QB. So do the Rams Bulger isn't it long term. waiting for Chiefsplanet blow up when they are gone
and we trade down.

Um...

I don't know what to say at this point.

Hydrae 01-14-2009 06:21 PM

Personally, I hope Detroit goes for Stafford because I would prefer Sanchez.

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391207)
LOL.....Sanchez has open receivers all day...uh yea ok.

Do we trade down to get Sanchez?

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:22 PM

The person that thinks USC's WR's run wide open or that Sanchez has great blocking or doesn't do much...

Name top flight NFL prospects off USC's offense, actually I'd be surprised if people can name more than a couple players.

DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:22 PM

It's hard to pick since both work out of the spread. I'm not big on prospects that don't come from a pro-style offense.

That said, I have hopes that Thigpen *might* be able to groom one of these guys. But Tyler is only one man, with only one skeleton...

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5391223)
It's hard to pick since both work out of the spread. I'm not big on prospects that don't come from a pro-style offense.

That said, I have hopes that Thigpen *might* be able to groom one of these guys.

ROFL

Awesome. The official "lil stumppy" response.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5391223)
It's hard to pick since both work out of the spread. I'm not big on prospects that don't come from a pro-style offense.

That said, I have hopes that Thigpen *might* be able to groom one of these guys. But Tyler is only one man...

What?


This thread is getting weird.

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391222)
The person that thinks USC's WR's run wide open or that Sanchez has great blocking or doesn't do much...

Name top flight NFL prospects off USC's offense, actually I'd be surprised if people can name more than a couple players.

Mays, Rey, Cushing.....:shake:

ChiefsCountry 01-14-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391229)
What?

This thread is getting weird.

Think demonpenz type post.

ChiefsCountry 01-14-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391234)
Mays, Rey, Cushing.....:shake:

Mecca asked for offense not defense.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391234)
Mays, Rey, Cushing.....:shake:

What offensive positions do these guys play?

I think you should actually read what I said before replying.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391234)
Mays, Rey, Cushing.....:shake:

Okay...
It's seriously getting weird, some of the off the wall responses in this thread.

If this is a joke thread, will someone clue me in?

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391234)
Mays, Rey, Cushing.....:shake:

O-F-F-E-N-S-E

On the offense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Name top flight NFL prospects off USC's offense, actually I'd be surprised if people can name more than a couple players.


DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391240)
O-F-F-E-N-S-E

On the offense.

Tackle.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:26 PM

Just name the starters off the offense...I doubt unless you watch the team alot or are a fan of the team you can name more than a handful.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5391235)
Think demonpenz type post.

Got it.
Sometimes I need Airwolf to help me out with these types of things.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391239)
Okay...
It's seriously getting weird, some of the off the wall responses in this thread.

If this is a joke thread, will someone clue me in?

DN is making fun of some of our "intelligence-deficient" posters.

DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:27 PM

So I'm on record, I voted Sanchez.

Pioli, might, just might, know more about football than me, though, so if he says Stafford or even Davis, cool.

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5391236)
Mecca asked for offense not defense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391238)
What offensive positions do these guys play?

I think you should actually read what I said before replying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391240)
O-F-F-E-N-S-E

On the offense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5391241)
Tackle.

It was a joke, the shakehead was a sign that i don't know...pardon all you assholes

Sully 01-14-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391246)
DN is making fun of some of our "intelligence-deficient" posters.

Thanks.
But that only explains HIS posts.

Reerun_KC 01-14-2009 06:29 PM

I voted Sanchez

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391250)
It was a joke, the shakehead was a sign that i don't know...pardon all you assholes

And you proved my point for me about Sanchez and the players he's surrounded by.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5391247)
So I'm on record, I voted Sanchez.

Pioli, might, just might, know more about football than me, though, so if he says Stafford or even Davis, cool.

That's how I feel about it.

KcMizzou 01-14-2009 06:30 PM

So, I'm talking football with this guy at work today.

He says, "This sucks, Herm's not going to get fired, and Detroit's going to take Stafford."

I say, "Well, I really like the sound of Sanchez too..."

"Who's that?"

"The USC QB. He announced that he's declaring."

"Ugh. No way. He'll be a bust."

WTF??? Two seconds ago you didn't know who he was!

Fuggin' morons. :mad:

I just turned and walked away.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:31 PM

People in this market think all USC players suck for some reason.

Sully 01-14-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391250)
It was a joke, the shakehead was a sign that i don't know...pardon all you assholes

ROFL

I wish they'd create a smiley with shrugging shoulders that more clearly let people know it was an "I don't know" post.
Why don't they?
:shrug:

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5391261)
So, I'm talking football with this guy at work today.

He says, "This sucks, Herm's not going to get fired, and Detroit's going to take Stafford."

I say, "Well, I really like the sound of Sanchez too..."

"Who's that?"

"The USC QB. He announced that he's declaring."

"Ugh. No way. He'll be a bust."

WTF??? Two seconds ago you didn't know who he was! Fuggin' morons. :mad:

I just turned and walked away.


What's his ChiefsPlanet handle?

Does he come from a big family?

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391267)
ROFL

I wish they'd create a smiley with shrugging shoulders that more clearly let people know it was an "I don't know" post.
Why don't they?
:shrug:

ROFL

I hate when that happens.

Skip Towne 01-14-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391222)
The person that thinks USC's WR's run wide open or that Sanchez has great blocking or doesn't do much...

Name top flight NFL prospects off USC's offense, actually I'd be surprised if people can name more than a couple players.

You're probably right. I only saw USC once this year other than the Rose Bowl. We rarely see UCLA in basketball either.

DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391259)
That's how I feel about it.

His resume is such that it's hard for me to imagine that most fans won't give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves, pardon the repetition, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he's a ****ing moron.

This is a long way off.

Gravedigger 01-14-2009 06:33 PM

Stafford or bust.

Sanchez got hurt in his 1 year college starter career more than Stafford in his 3 year career starting in Georgia. To stay away from another Croylesque QB that has good upside but can be broken, I'll take the track record of reliability. IMO Stafford is going to be a great QB in this league and I'm glad that Sanchez came out cause when I heard Bradford wasn't going to come out I thought Stafford to the Lions, then I heard Sanchez was coming out and now... there's a chance!!!

unothadeal 01-14-2009 06:33 PM

Do we really need to worry about this anymore? I have 100% trust in Scott Pioli making the right selection.

luv 01-14-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5391261)
So, I'm talking football with this guy at work today.

He says, "This sucks, Herm's not going to get fired, and Detroit's going to take Stafford."

I say, "Well, I really like the sound of Sanchez too..."

"Who's that?"

"The USC QB. He announced that he's declaring."

"Ugh. No way. He'll be a bust."

WTF??? Two seconds ago you didn't know who he was!

Fuggin' morons. :mad:

I just turned and walked away.

Sounds like he's not a Chiefs fan. Did he mean Herm getting fired to be a bad thing?

Chiefnj2 01-14-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5391274)
His resume is such that it's hard for me to imagine that most fans won't give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves, pardon the repetition, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he's a ****ing moron.

This is a long way off.

He gets the benefit of the doubt, but Belichick is to brains of that outfit.

KcMizzou 01-14-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5391277)
Sounds like he's not a Chiefs fan. Did he mean Herm getting fired to be a bad thing?

No.

And yeah, he's a Chiefs fan.

DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391268)
What's his ChiefsPlanet handle?

ROFL

beach tribe 01-14-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5391150)
sounds like Stafford is staying at OU.
see you next year when we are 4-12 or 5-11.

Stafford has been great for OU huh?

DeezNutz 01-14-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5391280)
He gets the benefit of the doubt, but Belichick is to brains of that outfit.

:shake:

My sources, whom your sources served coffee, suggest otherwise.

Hydrae 01-14-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5391276)
Do we really need to worry about this anymore? I have 100% trust in Scott Pioli making the right selection.

Gotta love the love this guy is getting. Anything has to be good compared to Carl, eh?


Not saying I am not thrilled with this hire. I just don't expect the guy to walk on water the way it seems most around here expect.

luv 01-14-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5391281)
No.

And yeah, he's a Chiefs fan.

Ah. I missed the part where he said "this sucks".

Shaid 01-14-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391267)
ROFL

I wish they'd create a smiley with shrugging shoulders that more clearly let people know it was an "I don't know" post.
Why don't they?
:shrug:

:clap:

Well done.

evolve27 01-14-2009 06:36 PM

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teedubya 01-14-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5391157)
I'm going to go ahead and trust Mr. Pioli's choice on this one.

I don't think we draft a QB now... His comment about... I think I know of another qb...

For some reason, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pioli pick someone in the 3rd or 4th who turns out to be a badass.

Look for KC to go defense... or OL.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 5391275)
Stafford or bust.

Sanchez got hurt in his 1 year college starter career more than Stafford in his 3 year career starting in Georgia. To stay away from another Croylesque QB that has good upside but can be broken, I'll take the track record of reliability. IMO Stafford is going to be a great QB in this league and I'm glad that Sanchez came out cause when I heard Bradford wasn't going to come out I thought Stafford to the Lions, then I heard Sanchez was coming out and now... there's a chance!!!

Are you mildly reeruned?

Sanchez never missed a game....to remotely compare him to Croyle is dumb as ****.

What the hell is with the forum lately?

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5391305)
I don't think we draft a QB now... His comment about... I think I know of another qb...

For some reason, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pioli pick someone in the 3rd or 4th who turns out to be a badass.

Look for KC to go defense... or OL.

You are aware that the Patriots line was built out of the 1st round yes?

Reerun_KC 01-14-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391306)
Are you mildly reeruned?

Sanchez never missed a game....to remotely compare him to Croyle is dumb as ****.

What the hell is with the forum lately?

Well we have be subjected to Herm for the last 3 years... That alone lowers the IQ of the fanbase as a whole...

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5391311)
Well we have be subjected to Herm for the last 3 years... That alone lowers the IQ of the fanbase as a whole...

Some of these posters are starting to hurt my brain.


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