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Agent V 01-13-2009 10:26 PM

Your thoughts on my NEW uniform design.
 
This is going to get lost in Pioli (invisible deity bless him) madness, but here it goes.

I think it was about a year ago when I last attempted this. As a former graphic design student (now English major) I still dabble in the art, and the most difficult project I've ever attempted is the Kansas City Chiefs.

I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY: I DON'T THINK CHANGE IS NECESSARY, but it couldn't hurt, especially if done subtly and with NO BLACK.

I want to keep the blindingly awesome red as the center of the design, but integrate just enough yellow to make it consistent (the yellow, that is). I know most Chiefs fans don't want black, but I argue constantly with very talented sports design enthusiasts who insist me to add black just as the 49ers did, as an accent color.

Unnecessary, in my opinion, and I'm sticking to my guns here. We bleed red and gold. You don't add a rival team's color, even if it is just black. I've seen it done (with Chiefs uniform concepts), it's not horrible, but it isn't needed either.

I of course left the Lamar Hunt patch.

**** it. You probably aren't going to read all that anyway. Here you go:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18..._Uniforms2.png

OnTheWarpath15 01-13-2009 10:27 PM

How many times is this going to be posted?

Direckshun 01-13-2009 10:28 PM

There needs to be more bulge around the penis.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5388447)
There needs to be more bulge around the penis.

Agreed.

JimNasium 01-13-2009 10:29 PM

No

Agent V 01-13-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5388446)
How many times is this going to be posted?

Revisited this time, it's different (as I stated above). I posted the original once over a year ago, and another time in a different thread. I finished the revision tonight.

DeezNutz 01-13-2009 10:31 PM

Why is Gonzo so white?

CHENZ A! 01-13-2009 10:32 PM

I really don't see much difference except for the helmet which I am NOT a fan of.

OnTheWarpath15 01-13-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5388458)
Revisited this time, it's different (as I stated above). I posted the original once over a year ago, and another time in a different thread. I finished the revision tonight.

Then someone has stolen your work and posted it here twice in the last month.

Hoover 01-13-2009 10:32 PM

I'm not a fan of the yellow, the less yellow the better for me. Red, Black, and white. That said I wouldn't change anything I don't mind the yellow we currentlyh have

DeezNutz 01-13-2009 10:33 PM

Not down with the yellow on the helmet.

cdcox 01-13-2009 10:34 PM

The less mustard, the better.

bishop_74 01-13-2009 10:35 PM

You need to re-tool the logo.

Halfcan 01-13-2009 10:36 PM

nice job

Agent V 01-13-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5388447)
There needs to be more bulge around the penis.

ROFL

You should be a graphic design teacher.

Beerthirty 01-13-2009 10:38 PM

Get rid of the gold and put black shoes and black face masks on them. Maybe on the all Red uniforms. I always hated the white socks with the colored stripes on them also. I wouldnt know what to change them to though.

Agent V 01-13-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishop_74 (Post 5388475)
You need to re-tool the logo.

You know, I can stare and stare at that thing for hours, recolor and re-outline, but nothing improves it. It's perfect. That's where I disagree with other sports logo enthusiasts on the issue. Yes, the black isn't consistent, but it makes it pop.

CHENZ A! 01-13-2009 10:42 PM

Change the yellow to gold, and make the red darker. leave the logo alone.

Bugeater 01-13-2009 10:43 PM

I don't mind the yellow, in fact I think the outline around the logo on the helmet is kinda cool. I don't pay close attention to what the rest of the unis look like as they are now, I wouldn't even probably notice if they did change anything, as long as they didn't put those stupid curving stripes on them like the Donks did it wouldn't bother me. The only thing that I can think of that would really piss me off is if they ever decided to change the logo. Nobody better **** with the logo.

morphius 01-13-2009 10:46 PM

I don't like the helmet at all, and would still like a logo on the jersey. But there are a lot of people that disagree with me on the logo idea.

leviw 01-13-2009 10:49 PM

I'll say it: I like them.

Uniforms are great -- subtle but effective. Wouldn't mind keeping the traditional helmet, but the black outline on the logo would throw everything off.

Nice work.

splatbass 01-13-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5388447)
There needs to be more bulge around the penis.

That's what TG's wife said.

cdcox 01-13-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5388510)
I'll say it: I like them.

Uniforms are great -- subtle but effective. Wouldn't mind keeping the traditional helmet, but the black outline on the logo would throw everything off.

Nice work.

Uh, you do know that the current helmet has a black outline around the logo?

Cornstock 01-13-2009 10:54 PM

Whats so wrong with black?
It is scientifically proven to psychologically intimidate opposing teams and thus increase(a few percentage points) the winning percentage of the team by which its worn.

Agent V 01-13-2009 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388528)
Uh, you do know that the current helmet has a black outline around the logo?

That's what he said. He's referring to my design.

teedubya 01-13-2009 10:57 PM

I love, love the jerseys... ****ING HATE the logo on the helmet. And I have been a graphic design instructor...

Beerthirty 01-13-2009 11:00 PM

Make the helmet gold or yellow just for sh-ts and giggles and see what that would look like. Kind of like the old Redskins uniforms.

Cornstock 01-13-2009 11:00 PM

We also need an all red set with red top and bottom

rtmike 01-13-2009 11:01 PM

The KC gets lost in the vertical lines of the pants. The lines of KC get lost, imo.

aturnis 01-13-2009 11:05 PM

If you changed everything you changed about them, back to what they used to be, then added sweet flames...then they'd be awesome.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 11:07 PM

Repost, I know. But it's just sooo wonderfully gay that it can never be posted too many times, I think.

"Ah tink iss reelay grayuht... da new uniform chay-unge we got goin own"

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morphius 01-13-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerthirty (Post 5388556)
Make the helmet gold or yellow just for sh-ts and giggles and see what that would look like. Kind of like the old Redskins uniforms.

I've done this a few times in the past when logical/vlad/whatever said it was a good idea, twas terrible, but only much worse than terrible but more like a travesty to mankind.

leviw 01-13-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5388599)
Repost, I know. But it's just sooo wonderfully gay that it can never be posted too many times, I think.

"Ah tink iss reelay grayuht... da new uniform chay-unge we got goin own"

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Racist much?

leviw 01-13-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388528)
Uh, you do know that the current helmet has a black outline around the logo?

Yeah, that's what I said. I like the current helmet, but the black doesn't make sense.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5388622)
Racist much?

Uhh... sure. Tell me how that's racist. Because LT is a terrible interview by the way he sounds words?

whoman69 01-13-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5388585)
If you changed everything you changed about them, back to what they used to be, then added sweet flames...then they'd be awesome.

We're talking about uniforms, not a '69 Nova.

kobebehar 01-13-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5388622)
Racist much?

Wow, precisely how many vaginas does it require to accuse someone of racism for quoting him exactly how he sounds?

I got the over/under at 17, what you think, SNR?
Because I get the smell of at LEAST 17 yeast infections from his floral-patterned loveseat that he shares with his thirty pound kitten named after the main character of Jane Austen novel.

Valiant 01-13-2009 11:36 PM

I love the unsanctioned version of the Indian with a tomahawk over four states.. I would love for that logo on one side and the players numbers on the other.. And then an arrow going over the middle with the tip just above the facemask.. Now I know the Indian will not happen because of all the PC ****s, but I would love to see the four states on there with the KC logo or arrowhead over it..

Hoover 01-13-2009 11:38 PM

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I made a minor change

beavis 01-13-2009 11:40 PM

The only thing I wish they'd change about the uniforms are the stupid stripes. God those things are ugly.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerthirty (Post 5388556)
Make the helmet gold or yellow just for sh-ts and giggles and see what that would look like. Kind of like the old Redskins uniforms.

No.

**** no.

What the **** is wrong with you?

kcfanXIII 01-13-2009 11:44 PM

if you retool the arrowhead you should angle it ala the pats, ravens, cards. that being said, the helmet is one thing i don't think i'd mess with.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 11:45 PM

The Chiefs uni's are great. Among the best in the NFL.

They haven't changed hardly at all since the days of the Dallas Texans.

Personally, I like it that way.

Hoover 01-13-2009 11:47 PM

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all red

Hoover 01-13-2009 11:48 PM

Those Shoes are in honor of Rain Man

ChiefsCountry 01-13-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5388740)
The Chiefs uni's are great. Among the best in the NFL.

They haven't changed hardly at all since the days of the Dallas Texans.

Personally, I like it that way.

This.

Chiefs, Bears, Packers, Cowboys, & Raiders have the best uniforms IMO. And I am a young guy.

leviw 01-13-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5388714)
Wow, precisely how many vaginas does it require to accuse someone of racism for quoting him exactly how he sounds?

I got the over/under at 17, what you think, SNR?
Because I get the smell of at LEAST 17 yeast infections from his floral-patterned loveseat that he shares with his thirty pound kitten named after the main character of Jane Austen novel.

Stupid much?

RealSNR 01-13-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5388714)
Wow, precisely how many vaginas does it require to accuse someone of racism for quoting him exactly how he sounds?

I got the over/under at 17, what you think, SNR?
Because I get the smell of at LEAST 17 yeast infections from his floral-patterned loveseat that he shares with his thirty pound kitten named after the main character of Jane Austen novel.

One. Just one yeasty vagina is all it takes

RealSNR 01-13-2009 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5388758)
Stupid much?

Kill yourself

splatbass 01-14-2009 12:30 AM

Lose the stripes on the socks and I like it.

CanadaKC 01-14-2009 12:33 AM

why no black? even a little bit in the stripes...not much...would give more depth...and still keep a lot of its authenticity. But that's just me...who knows?:shrug:

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5388754)
This.

Chiefs, Bears, Packers, Cowboys, & Raiders have the best uniforms IMO. And I am a young guy.

Don't worry, DCS has this shit all wrapped up. I kept the best parts, made one small scaling change, and brought that ****er in to the 21-st Century without sacrificing one iota of tradition.

Agent V 01-14-2009 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5388853)
Don't worry, DCS has this shit all wrapped up. I kept the best parts, made one small scaling change, and brought that ****er in to the 21-st Century without sacrificing one iota of tradition.

You gotta show me. I've been trying for years to achieve that.

Phobia 01-14-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5388622)
Racist much?

You've posted here 3700 times without being a moron. Then on 3701?

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5388864)
You gotta show me. I've been trying for years to achieve that.

Gotta' keep it on the low-low for now; this is very serious shit. I've been working on this for a year and a half now, and I just finally got all of the elements together.

I am however looking for someone with MAD photo shop skills to come on board for putting together the final presentation.

I've done all the "trial and error"; it's time to put the finished work together and ice the cake!

Agent V 01-14-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5388878)
Gotta' keep it on the low-low for now; this is very serious shit. I've been working on this for a year and a half now, and I just finally got all of the elements together.

I am however looking for someone with MAD photo shop skills to come on board for putting together the final presentation.

I've done all the "trial and error"; it's time to put the finished work together and ice the cake!

I can help with the Photoshop task, depending on what you need.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5388892)
I can help with the Photoshop task, depending on what you need.

Alright. I'm going to PM you and give you a secondary email address you can reach me at. I have the ability to monitor said address from home or work.

kobebehar 01-14-2009 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5388767)
One. Just one yeasty vagina is all it takes

These vaginas are spoiled before we get em in the classroom

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5388505)
I don't like the helmet at all, and would still like a logo on the jersey. But there are a lot of people that disagree with me on the logo idea.

DCS is here for you. And when you see the placement of said logo, you WILL JMP!( JIZZ MY PANTS!)

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388474)
The less mustard, the better.


DCS hears your call, and delivers big time. You will LOVE "Arrowhead Electric Gold".

theultimatekcchiefsfan 01-14-2009 11:01 PM

I always thought a Black Falcons like uniform when Dion played there would be a nice change of pace.Black and Red.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theultimatekcchiefsfan (Post 5392113)
I always thought a Black Falcons like uniform when Dion played there would be a nice change of pace.Black and Red.

I hear what you're saying, but it is precisely for that reason(Atlanta)and tradition that B & R exclusively will never fly with the 00ld's.

bowener 01-15-2009 12:11 AM

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I found this site on the web, its pretty limited, but is really easy to use. I messed around on it for about 5 or 10 minutes.

http://www.teamworkathletic.com/taa/design-uniform/

Obviously select football (male), then customize.

The colors arent exactly the way they look for the Chiefs now, but just imagine the uniform with the current Chiefs colors. I would probably keep the KC helmets the same, I would just make the arrowhead "shorter" in heigth so it looked more steamlined or "sharp"... maybe make the "KC" more bold too.

ok, screenshot.

bowener 01-15-2009 12:28 AM

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Chiefs with donkeys style uni's
It hurt me to make it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5392308)
Chiefs with donkeys style uni's
It hurt me to make it.

It hurt me to look at it.

teedubya 01-15-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5392308)
Chiefs with donkeys style uni's
It hurt me to make it.

God that is horrible. Please forgive this man... he knows not what he does.

bowener 01-15-2009 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5392319)
God that is horrible. Please forgive this man... he knows not what he does.

I know what I do, and its harmful. Luckily it only takes about 2 minutes of clicking.

There really is no way to make our uniforms look 'nice'. They are too garish.

Hoover 01-15-2009 12:48 AM

Scott Pioli better not see this...

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5392322)
I know what I do, and its harmful. Luckily it only takes about 2 minutes of clicking.

There really is no way to make our uniforms look 'nice'. They are too garish.

This is driving me insane. I want nothing more than to throw down and prove that statement wrong, but I've worked far too many hours on this shit to prematurely blow the load.

For those of you out there who truly want something fresh and new, yet respectful to the tradition of the franchise; I've got you covered.
If you're ready to see the beloved Arrowhead Logo march with authority in to this New Era and Millennium? I've got that too.

Be patient; things are in the works.

Easy 6 01-15-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHENZ A! (Post 5388494)
Change the yellow to gold, and make the red darker. leave the logo alone.

Agreed on all fronts, a darker red would be especially welcome.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-15-2009 12:19 PM

i like the KC logo on the pants.

i do not like the yellow on the helmet.

Warrior5 01-15-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5388740)
The Chiefs uni's are great. Among the best in the NFL. They haven't changed hardly at all since the days of the Dallas Texans.
Personally, I like it that way.

This.

Leave perfection alone.

Demonpenz 01-15-2009 12:39 PM

I like the alternative black uniforms you see people wearing, if they could wear the black ones a couple times a year they could gain some in profit sales if they lic one for one maker. I do think they need to update to a more modern look like the san jose sharx

kepp 01-15-2009 01:27 PM

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I would suggest this additional accessory just in case Herm doesn't get fired.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 5393561)
This.

Leave perfection alone.

The overall premise/design is sound, but you have to admit there are SOME elements that are downright clownish.

The 5 different stripes that run down the side of those red pants?

Yat-dat, duda-duda dat, duht duh duhhh(clown theme).

I like a lot of the old-school elements of the current uniform, but I'd like them better if they were stripped down a little and augmented with design elements that are timeless as opposed to "Hey, it's 1972 and you're grooving Pele-style to the sounds of Bachman Turner Overdrive"!

Fortunately, and due to my labor of love for this Franchise; I have the answer.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 5393839)
I would suggest this additional accessory just in case Herm doesn't get fired.

LMAO
I thought it would be a gun belt and bandoleer, but I guess that'll do too.

sedated 01-15-2009 01:39 PM

Please don't change the uni's.

All the new uniforms look like XFL bullshit

beach tribe 01-15-2009 02:10 PM

Red on Red? I've always thought that would be cool. Looks good on Madden.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5393882)
Please don't change the uni's.

All the new uniforms look like XFL bullshit

Don't worry, NO "Euro Uni" here. There's one team that can pull that off, and they're located in Columbia, Mo.

EyePod 01-15-2009 03:33 PM

Tony isn't that light skinned. Sorry, I can't see anything past that.


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