Scott Pioli
 

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Yea if the Giants couldn't pry him away, I don't see that happening here.

Not.

Gonna.

Happen.

That is all.

Honestly I would stay the **** away from New England. They win yes but they do things different that would normally just bite you in the ass.

only if Belichek comes with him...

He's not going to leave new England.....

Will never happen

buzz kill mofos :sulk:




fook all you fuggers

You should go after Holmgren as coach and GM.

Bite me.

ROFL

Rich Kotite is still available. :shrug:

http://www.jetnation.com/JetsWiki/im...b3/Kotite1.jpg

http://www.jetnation.com/JetsWiki/im...c2/Kotite2.jpg

No way in hell he comes here.

Rich = Herm

Herm wishes he had Kotite's W/L record.

is scott pioli gonna be available?

Is this thread a joke?

We won't get him, but I'd be very open to one of his understudies, or some understudy from Philly.

no .... just wishful thinking


hey, a guy can hope :shrug:

In a world where Carl Peterson resigns, anything can happen.

Keep hope alive!

Well, if it's not Pioli, Eric DeCosta from Baltimore would be a soild choice.

I hope we continue the Colts-like philosophy of drafting, drafting and more drafting, letting free agents walk and earning compensatory picks, and only dipping occasionally into free agency if there's an ascending player looking for his second contract.

Dumbass, think before you speak you ****in idiot.

suck a big bag of donkey dicks, you fugtard.

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Thats what they said about the chances of a Black man with a African/Muslim name and the most liberal voting record in the senate getting elected President.

Never say never.

Sure its a helluva longshot but ask, you'll never know the answer until you ask.

that's the spirit!!!!


Yes, We Can
Yes, We Can
Yes, We Can

PBJ :D

Hasn't there been speculation about Pioli being interested in Detoilet's GM vacancy? If that is true then he is obviously ready to leave New England for a new challenge.

The Chiefs are a much more attractive option than Detoilet, especially if Clark Hunt opens his wallet for Pioli

Far as I know, the only guy under him who was really primed to be a GM was Dimitroff, who went to become the Atlanta Falcons GM last year.

Not sure anyone else is a likely candidate.

As others have noted, I don't think Pioli is available. He just doesn't seem interested in leaving Belichick. Whether that's loyalty, or he already is well paid (not sure anyone knows what he is paid outside of the Patriots) or what, but he has turned down total control of other solid franchises.

Not sure what it would take to get him to leave.

Not picking on you specifically, but I see Philly mentioned a LOT.

Why?

They don't draft worth a shit, and are always chasing FA's to cover up their draft mistakes.

Sound familiar, Chiefs fans?

Scott Pioli and Josh McDaniels= Heaven in KC

Ouch. That would suck.

McDaniels is very young. Not even 35, but he may well get HC job offers this year after showing how Cassell has come along under his watch.

From the San Francisco 49ers forum:

Why Pioli?

-- He's been a pro personnel assistant, director and/or vice president with four NFL franchises (Cleveland Browns, Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets and Patriots, with whom he is in his ninth season).

-- Working alongside detail-oriented coach Bill Belichick has taught Pioli how a well-oiled front office operates. Belichick's personnel and coaching staff from Cleveland included Pioli, Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, Fresno State coach Pat Hill and former Raiders personnel chief-turned NFL Network analyst Michael Lombardi. It's an impressive group of proteges.

Belichick is so meticulous in hiring and personnel matters, he's known to have backup lists of 10-12 coaches and players for every open position. Pioli has the same philosophy: Be very prepared. Be very smart.

Then there is this bit of football heritage - Pioli's father-in-law is a guy named Bill Parcells, who knows a little about the game.

-- Credibility. Having a proven commodity like Pioli in charge of the 49ers' football operation tells the NFL that the Yorks mean business as owners. That they recognize the need to bring a top football mind into their fold. In an instant, the franchise will go from irrelevant to significant - an important consideration now that the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the players is set to expire at the end of the 2010 season, and business will not go on as usual.

-- Structure. The 49ers' recent record in the draft and free agency - 10 of the 22 starters come from drafts preceding the arrival of general manager Scot McCloughan - has given Singletary a roster that lacks overall quality, talent, experience and depth.

What's worse, since 2005 the 49ers have had two head coaches, four offensive coordinators, two defensive coordinators and two special teams coaches. There is no consistency in philosophy or scheme.

-- Track record. The Belichick/Pioli system is so highly regarded around the NFL that other franchises have copied it. Falcons owner Arthur Blank hired Thomas Dimitroff - the Patriots' director of college scouting - as his general manager in January.
Dimitroff, 42, has been effusive in his praise of the "Patriots Way" as his football model, and he used it to hire head coach Mike Smith, the Jaguars' respected defensive coordinator. He also employed it in drafting quarterback Matt Ryan No. 3 overall, a 14-game starter who is now being mentioned as an MVP candidate.
Singletary has earned the right to remain as the 49ers head coach. The owners should recognize that he's not the answer to what ails their franchise, but part of the solution.

Pioli may be reluctant to leave a sure thing, but he's also on the radar of several ailing NFL franchises that desperately need to rebuild. At some point, you figure Pioli will want to make his own mark apart from Belichick, to validate his career. The timing may be right.

Jed York made his mark this season by opting for Singletary. He should keep the momentum going by pursuing Pioli, before another team gets there first.

**** that. What's to say that philosophy is all that great? They have one super bowl title, big deal. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning they wouldn't even have that and wouldn't have come close any other time. Let's not act like the Colts are the model franchise or something.

He has a kind face.

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/pcrrn/.../hof/pioli.jpg

It's basically the same thing most of the good teams do.

Your an idiot

Right on, Laz. I will believe with you... and rep the naysayers.

If I were Clark, I would overpay to get him here. Then I would tell him he has free reign, but make sure I don't overpay for anyone else.

It would really suck to be a team that knows the value of positions, knows when to walk away from guys, oh and knows how to draft properly.

Eh, don't get too hung up on this guy. If he doesn't want the top job, maybe he's a weakling. Like Gary Kubiak. Remember when he said he wanted to stay on as Shanahan's assistant a few years ago instead of taking one of the many head-coaching gigs that was available? He finally realized that people had figured out he was afraid of the top job and grabbed whatever he could find, which turned out to be the place were many coaches go to end their careers quietly.

Kubiak is doing a great job with the Texans. Bad example.

The only reason Pioli would leave is if he wants get of out of Belichick's shadow, rebuild some horrible team and cement himself as one of the best talent evaluators in the league. He would have to want that challenge. It's possible; but I don't see any evidence of him wanting to leave NE.

Rumors on the 49er's board that he was accepting calls from the owner to talk about the position. Myabe , BS. But you can't gaurantee that he says no unless you ask him.

You're right. His losing record is irrelevant. He's won a lot of moral victories.

Just because he refused a job in the past does not necessarily mean he'd refuse one now. We don't know his personal situation (kids in school, etc.) - for some people that trumps all. Plus with the Giants the owner may have asked him to keep some people around (e.g. Chris Mara, a lead personnel guy related to the owner) - and Clark almost certainly won't impart the same restrictions.

This is really a top top job in the NFL if Clark pays a good price and I wouldn't cross any names off the list due to disinterest until we hear otherwise.

i would be pleased with DeCosta. very pleased.

Sal Palentoneo (sp?) said on 810 this morning that he thought the Chiefs were a better GM opportunity than some of the ones Pioli had turned down earlier and that he knew Pioli and thought he would definitely be interested.

Pioli is married to Bill Parcells daughter. maybe he'll leave the Dolphins high and dry and come over here with his son in law?


:D

I really really hope this is true

That would be amazing.

And the view that Pioli would considering retaining Herm is ludicrous. Herm is the anti-Belichick. Herm is a bullshit artist/motivator/players coach. Belichick is a Xs and Os taskmaster.

I personally have been of the opinion that he was glad to stay with Belichick because he's much younger than Belichick, and that he either has been guaranteed a VERY long term job with the Patriots (more or less), or that he figured he would spend a few more years with the Pats, collect a few more rings, possibly, and then step out on his own after he was a bit older. Even now I think he's only 43.

I'm sure the Chiefs will offer, basically, complete dictatorial powers. With a blank check, a rabid fan base, a wealthy owner (an important consideration), and nowhere to go but up (literally), I think what the Chiefs could offer would be appealing.

But he is obviously very loyal to Belichick. He may have mentally decided to stick with him until he retires. Who the heck knows.

Be prepared for a battle -- any team that takes him is going to face the fact that the Pats will expect draft pick or other compensation. The Pats have seemingly stuck to the theory that Pioli is the GM and if he's under contract, they will be owed compensation.

reeruned.

That is all.

I suspect Pioli would bring in a Belichick disciple. That would put them on the same page in terms of what types of players they're looking for. Also, AFAIK, Pioli has never been involved in a scheme other than the ones Belichick ran. I doubt he wants to learn now how to identify a good 4-3 DE/DT compared to what he's spent his whole life doing, jsut for example.

Kirk Ferentz of Iowa, Romeo Crennel after he gets the inevitable axe, Dom Capers (now the Pats DB coach), or, of course, Pats OC Josh McDaniels. A very young combo that would be. McDaniels is like 32 or something.

I'm thinking you wouldn't post here for awhile if we steal your GM, OC, and DB coach. :D

I would be satisfied if he brought his father-in-laws tenacity and SHARP axe to KC! Gut this organization like a fish!

Yep. ****ing Cheaters. That's like saying we should get someone from the ****ing Chargers. Both teams cheat terribly, and I want NOTHING to do with them.

The entry level of the Chiefs is much better. The Chiefs have a ton of young talent, great draft picks, new facilities and a poor record over the last two years.

The Chiefs have a GREAT fanbase.

I think the Chiefs GM job at this point is a much better job than the Giants in 2007.

you're mean :(

Yeah! Rich Kotite!