Updated College Polls!
 

BCS
1. Alabama .981
2. Texas Tech .972
3. Texas .880
4. Florida .864
5. Oklahoma .844
6. USC .790
7. Utah .769
8. Penn State .684
9. Boise State .678
10. Georgia .616
11. ohio state
12. Missouri
13. Oklahoma State
14. Ball State
15. Michigan state
16. North Carolina
17. BYU
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Tulsa
24. Wake Forest
25. South Carolina

Harris Poll
1. Alabama (75)
2. Texas Tech (38)
3. Florida (1)
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. BYU
15. Ball State
16. Michigan State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Tulsa
23. Cincinnati
24. South Carolina
25. California

Coaches Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (17)
3. Florida
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas
6. Southern California
7. Utah
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. Brigham Young
15. Michigan State
16. Ball State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. South Carolina
24. Tulsa
25. Oregon State

AP Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (21)
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. Southern California
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Oklahoma State
12. Missouri
13. Georgia
14. Ball state
15. TCU
16. BYU
17. North Carolina
18. Michigan State
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Oregon St.
24. South Carolina
25. Tulsa

Interesting that OK State would fall below MU considering they beat us in our house and we both have 2 losses.

mmaddog
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Suprised OK State is below MU

Or that OU is ranked above UT.

A factor of the 'recentness' of their loss. A loss later in the season carries more negative weight than an earlier loss. I don't think that's quite right.

I like it, even though Texas should obviously be ahead of OU.... but it's only 14 points.

PSU and OSU should at least be below Oklahoma State. The bottom half of the rankings is pretty ugly, considering Michigan State has zero quality or even decent wins and lost to OSU 45-7.

Big 12 champ vs. SEC champ :clap: :drool:

AP out

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3 Big 12 teams in the top 5, and 5 in the top 12. Damn that's impressive.

Georgia should be a couple of spots higher, IMO.

Did you watch the GA-KY game yesterday? It was the ineptitude of the KY defense that kept them from winning the game....

Cobb is a freshman and that interception on the 13 yard line was a mistake you see Frosh QB's make. But GA should never have won that game yesterday.

mmaddog
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You can look at it however you want but the reality is that Georgia's only losses are to Florida and Alabama. They beat LSU which is a higher quality win than ohio state or Mizzou has.

Whoa pitbull!!!!!!!!!!! Not trying to get into an argument here about MU vs. GA..I have to do that every Monday with the CFO of one of our divisions, I don't need that today.

I figured you are a big SEC fan and would be watching that one....was looking more for your comments on that game than a pissing match over who has a tougher schedule.

mmaddog
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Not looking to get into a pissing match. Doesn't really matter to me because I'm happy where Florida's at, just thought UGA should be 2 spots higher.

I was busy facilitating a session yesterday but I caught the end of the UGA-KY game. UGA really killed themselves with all the turnovers. Otherwise it wouldn't have been as close. They made the plays at the end to win (Stafford/AJ Green and the defense picking off the last pass) and that's what good teams do.

The play by Stafford and Green was good...but Stafford was lucky he didn't get tackled for a loss. The catch by Green was pure skill and concentration..

As for that interception to seal the game....it was purely a Frosh mistake by Cobb. Make no mistake though....he tore up what was supposed to be a good GA defense and made it look like it was MU's defense.

FL/Bama/Tex Tech are the easy quality teams....the question is, will Boise State be the spoiler this year?

mmaddog
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Agreed. That's not right.

Why in the Blue **** is Ohio State at 10? Seriously? That is one officially not good team.

Disclaimer: I'm an MU Fan

VERY surprised Penn State didn't fall into the teens after losing to an un-ranked team later in the season. I'm not sure how they fit in the top ten.

While MU has taken losses to two very good ranked teams...I still don't have a problem with GA floating ahead of them. Their losses to Florida and Alabama are respectable, although their showing against Kentucky was terrible. But so was MU's showing at Baylor.

BCS:

1. Alabama
2. Texas Tech
3. Texas
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma

6. USC
7. Utah
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. Georgia

That seems about right.

:shake:

11. ohio state
12. Missouri
13. Oklahoma State
14. Ball State
15. Michigan state
16. North Carolina
17. BYU
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU

The computers must still hate Florida.

Harris Poll
1. Alabama (75)
2. Texas Tech (38)
3. Florida (1)
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. BYU
15. Ball State
16. Michigan State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Tulsa
23. Cincinnati
24. South Carolina
25. California

Most do

How should Florida be any higher than they are?

I'm surprised Alabama stayed at #1. I really thought Tech would jump them today after there performances yesterday.

I'm just stating that the computer polls dislike Florida. Florida is #3 in both human polls which make up 2/3 of the BCS standings yet the computers drop them to #4.

I still need an answer.

they got it right....though you could obviously argue texas/florida

You could, but in the end it doesn't really matter. Unless there are some major upsets it will be the SEC Champ vs TTU/OU/Texas.

Wow, actually a good game this year. No more stupid Big 10.

correct

Nice to see the Defending Orange Bowl Champions lose to Nebraska yesterday. I certainly hope you got to watch it.

ROFL

A disappointing year, sure. I figured maybe 8 wins, but that isn't going to happen. Atleast we aren't frauds like MU.

Frauds lose to Nebraska. Wow. How the **** do you even do that?

Anyway, I just wanted to say hello, since you crawled off and hid like a little bitch yesterday. Enjoy the Chiefs game!

No. They were what I thought they were. KU wasn't that good of a team this year, they lost a number of meaningful players, but none of our fans ever suggested anything different. The sad thing, I think for you, is that they should still probably play MU competitively in 2 weeks.

MU was the massive disappointment this year. The team had NC aspirations, but being the chokers they are, ****ed it up. That is the definition of a fraud.

Unfortunately I did watch it.

If you think KU fans are stupid, you should really watch an NU game with some of their fans. There were dudes seriously screaming at the TV because they were passing the ball. Seriously. There are many NU fans that think they should go back to the wishbone and walk-on lineman.

As for KU, it was disappointing, but I knew they were not going to be good this year after they lost to South Florida. They just don't have it this year, unfortunately. Hopefully they can get some development out of their O-line and get the D to play some....I don't know....DEFENSE.

Yea.

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Those last two posts were solely for the benefit of KC_****face. Don't take it personally.

Look...another example of a KU fan who knew that the team wasn't that good this year.

Once again, KU will go through an entire season without a single meaningful win.

Do you honestly think I care? Do you know how good it feels to win an Orange Bowl? KU could do nothing for like 5 years in football, and I'd still be fairly content.

I think the biggest question is who voted Florida #1 in the Harris Poll? Either way, Florida has no business being ahead of Texas. Texas has better wins and a better loss. Florida has some good wins, but they don't have a win against a top notch team. Texas has wins against Missouri, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma. No team in the country has as many great wins. If every team in the country winds up with 1 loss, the winner of the Big 12 South deserves a title shot against the winner of the SEC.

No team from the SEC should be in the title game with 2 losses, though. Last year was a travesty. That was basically a season without a national champion.

See you in 6.

ROFL

Yes. Living proof that a do-nothing, beat-nobody bunch of losers can still enjoy the occasional free ride.

Florida doesn't deserve a 1st place vote - yet. However, someone gave it to them last week in the Harris too so I guess that one person is staying consistent.

I'll give you OU, but Florida's beatdown of Georgia is better than Texas' wins over Mizzou and Ok State. If Florida continues to win out then they can make the argument that no team in the country has as many great wins (unless TT runs the table). Winning out would mean Florida beat Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Florida State and Alabama which are all in the current BCS top-25.

Yet another pissing contest between the Big 12 Cripple Division teams....

Have fun never winning anything important with MU.

Oh, but Frazod started it!

:)

How can KU lose to MU and finish behind MU in the polls last year, yet their fans simultaneously claim that last season's success will carry them through 5 years of mediocrity and rip MU as being a fraud this season. Talk about trying to have it both ways, doesn't MU's season last year (which was superior to KU's season, hence the ranking) give MU a 5 year pass as well?

Meanwhile, MU is a top 12 team in the country and looks to be the class of the Big 12 North for the foreseeable future. Kansas is the same middle-of-the-road program that they have always been, and there's no reason to believe that anything better is in store.

You clowns certainly rendered the Orange Bowl unimportant, didn't you? Perhaps they'll just draw names out of a hat this year - God knows they couldn't do any worse you and the Chokies.

I've never said that KU was a better team than MU last year or this year.

KU traditionally isn't a strong football program. I'd simply be happy with a bowl every year.


They were ranked high, and had NC aspirations. They failed, they are the real frauds.

It all depends on your expectations for the program.

Getting to back to back bowls is an improvement on what KU was a few years ago. I'll take it.

I'll take solace in the fact you guys won't be there. Ever.

How does one win against a GA team that is ranked 10th (and barely escaped falling to around 20th by rallying to beat Kentucky) count as better than Texas's wins against the number 11 and 12 teams in the country? How can you possibly defend that position?

You didn't even address their loss. Is a loss at home to a crappy Mississippi team somehow better than a last second loss on the road to the number 2 team in the country?

Typical KU fan. It must be great to hold your rivals to standards that so greatly exceed your own standards.

No, it was MU fans that held their team to such high standards this year. Many of them expected a Big 12 title and a NC shot. They failed. Miserably.

I take solace in our win over you - not backing into a game we didn't deserve because we didn't play anybody (else).

But whatever makes your clit throb, Nancy. Enjoy.

I'll laugh if KU actually beats MU in 2 weeks. And the funny thing is, with MU's defense, it's a significant possibility.

Keep squawking, little imaginary birdie - just like last year.

How have we failed miserably? We lost to 2 outstanding teams and are ranked 12th in the country. It's been a disappointing season, but it's still been a great season. For a KU fan to dog on MU for being ranked 12th in the country is laughable.

It must be nice not to have standards. Maybe I'll go make fun of Tom Brady for not winning the Superbowl last year. What a failure that guy is.

You should probably talk to Mizzou fans about being quick to pull the trigger on calling a team a fraud. If Kansas wins the Orange Bowl and losses by a possession to a team that was apparently vastly superior to them, and they're still called frauds.... of course when Mizzou losses to OSU at home and then gets their asses handed to them by Texas, Kansas fans are going to say the same thing.

The difference is that before last season, no one thought Kansas or Mizzou would do anything. Before this season, Kansas fans knew Kansas would take a step back and (hopefully) win about 8 games, while Mizzou fans were hoping to get a piece of the NC spotlight.

I heard crap from a Mizzou grad friend for a year about how Mizzou was going undefeated this year, while hearing crap about how Kansas was going to be 'exposed' by OU... which didn't make sense since MU couldn't beat OU last year, but whatever. Of course Mizzou is going to be called a fraud from those who took the same crap and are still taking crap about Kansas.


The class of the B12 North and middle of the road? For starters, before Mangino they weren't close to the middle of the road. And if the Jayhawks are complete frauds, then Mizzou isn't far behind... they haven't been nearly as successful when compared to Kansas as some people want to believe.

We weren't talking about losses. You stated that Florida doesn't have a single victory over a top-notch team (while they pounded #10 Georgia and #20 LSU) while in the same breath you count Missouri and Ok State as quality wins for Texas. Double standard?

You talk about Georgia struggling at Kentucky. Mizzou struggled at Baylor. Ok State's best victory is over Mizzou who doesn't have any quality victories. Georgia beat LSU who doesn't have any quality victories. A blowout victory over #10 Georgia counts more than a sound victory over #12 Mizzou or a slim win over #13 Ok State.

They failed in their GOAL miserably. Everybody who follows that team knows it.

I'll tell you what is nice. Our Orange Bowl Victory. :)

It's a significant possibility? Really? You haven't even scrubbed the Nebraska spooge out of your asses, and you've already deluded yourselves into thinking that you have a shot at beating one of the best teams in the country. That's an accomplishment.

So, when Mizzou has NC aspirations and ends up being the South's bitch, it's not a big deal (I certainly don't think it's a big deal... still a good season). Yet, when Kansas wins the Orange Bowl and loses to the apparent superior Mizzou by 8, they're complete frauds.

Uh-huh.

Exactly. Frazod deserves every bit of this.

LOL, MU one of the best teams in the country?? Bahaha. Baylor almost beat MU.

Yes it's a significant possibility that KU could win that game.

One of the best teams in the country. LMAO

Biggest victories have been a 5-5 Illinois team that lost to Western Michigan last week, and then... Nebraska? KSU?

Yeah, Kansas was a fraud last year and Mizzou is one of the best teams in the country this year. LMAO LMAO LMAO

Whatever. I'm not the one who watched my team get punked by the ****ing Cornhuskers yesterday and then ran and hid crying under my bed like a pussy afterwards.

What did you want me to do? Come here so you could do this?

LOL at Rivers. That guy is such a choker vs. the Chiefs.

I thought my shoes were under there and got some dust in my eyes!

I didn't say that FL didn't have any quality wins. I said that they didn't have any great wins. Even if you consider the win against GA to be a great win, their resume is not in the same class as that of Texas. My point was that you were comparing 1 good win to 2 big wins and saying that the one big win trumped the 2.

Texas throttled MU. Florida throttled GA. That's a push. Texas also beat Oklahoma State. Florida beat LSU. That's a push. Texas also beat Oklahoma. That's better than any win FL has all season, including the win against GA. FL has nothing on their resume that matches up with that third victory, and FL's loss at home to Mississippi is a bad loss. Texas lost to TX Tech on the road. There is no shame in that.

Based on their body of work, do you still think FL belongs above TX?

Well, see the men show up to take their medicine after a loss, thus gaining the respect of their rivals. I actually respect most of the KU fans here.

And of course I don't expect you to understand.

Kansas wasn't a complete fraud last year. They were a very good team. They still weren't as good as MU as evidenced by their game and final rankings.

Big 12 title is still available for Mizzou to take.

According to the rankings, they are one of the 12 best teams in the country. Sorry if we don't win by wide enough margins to impress your 6-4 win selves. Who has Kansas beat this year again?

Right now? No - and it's irrelevant anyway. Do I think Florida is a better team than Texas? Yes. I was just complaining about the computers that generally have Florida ranked 5th or 6th when they should be 4th at worst.