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RJ 09-21-2008 03:41 PM

Are there any bright spots?
 
Serious question, is there any facet of the game where this team shows promise? The Chiefs haven't been in TV here yet and as you can imagine I haven't wasted my money to go watch them in a bar. I see LJ had a decent day and we only gave up two sacks. Does that mean the line was at least mediocre today?

Also, what about Thigpen? Did he look as bad in the game as his stat line does after?

Anything at all positive to report?

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:43 PM

When you get blown away by the Atlanta Falcons....do you really expect much positive?

kstater 09-21-2008 03:43 PM

Bright side: 1 game closer to the end of Carl and Herm.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-21-2008 03:46 PM

LJ at least looked like he had some fire, we started running outside the tackles and did so with success.

That's really it. We have the worst linebacking corps in the NFL, our D-line can't generate any pressure, and our safeties should be euthanized.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5041919)
When you get blown away by the Atlanta Falcons....do you really expect much positive?

Give me a break, Dude.

Thigpen put the Chiefs in the red zone twice when they came up empty. One a field goal, the other on the one. LJ played well today. Flowers and Carr played well. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride played very well.

If Thigpen had a year under his belt instead of just one game, the Chiefs very well could have won this game. His inexperience is what hurt the Chiefs offense, aside from McInSuck & Jones.

el borracho 09-21-2008 03:47 PM

We didn't put a 5'9" practice squad WR under center to run the option this week, so that is an improvement.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5041934)
LJ at least looked like he had some fire, we started running outside the tackles and did so with success.

That's really it. We have the worst linebacking corps in the NFL, our D-line can't generate any pressure, and our safeties should be euthanized.

I think we all new the right side of the line and the linebacking corp were the two most talent depleted areas on the roster. That and QB.

One more good off-season and the Chiefs are off to the races.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5041940)
We didn't put a 5'9" practice squad WR under center to run the option this week, so that is an improvement.

And he made a clutch reception.

Give credit where credit is due.

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:48 PM

That 4th quarter from what I saw was the Falcons playing the pass going "hey if you wanna run it and take all the time off the clock be my guest"

RJ 09-21-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5041919)
When you get blown away by the Atlanta Falcons....do you really expect much positive?


No, but that doesn't mean there can't be something/someone who looked good.

oaklandhater 09-21-2008 03:49 PM

We are one step closer to the NFL DRAFT which might be a darkspot if we trade the 1st pick in the nfl for Brady quinn.

FringeNC 09-21-2008 03:49 PM

The only positive I can think of is that this team isn't owned by Al Davis. If you haven't read this, good read:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:49 PM

Also how can anyone say any of the Dlineman looked good? Cause they made a tackle a couple of times?

They got 0 pass rush no one even got close enough to breathe on Ryan and they got gashed in the run game again.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5041947)
That 4th quarter from what I saw was the Falcons playing the pass going "hey if you wanna run it and take all the time off the clock be my guest"

I didn't see it that way.

The third quarter is where the running game and passing game exploded. If not for the missed field goal, this game may have turned out much differently. The missed opportunity for a TD at the goal line insured the loss.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5041949)
We are one step closer to the NFL DRAFT which might be a darkspot if we trade the 1st pick in the nfl for Brady quinn.

Cleveland is NOT trading Quinn so that's not even a concern.

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:50 PM

Also for the record, Turk McBride is the reason along with DJ that Norwood ripped off a 50 yard run.

el borracho 09-21-2008 03:51 PM

Actually, the offense did markedly better in the 2nd half, although the game was already lost at that point so one must consider the entire 2nd half as "garbage time" stats. Still- we did run much better than we have all season and made a number of 1st downs.

Also, I continue to be impressed by Albert and both Flowers and Carr look like NFL caliber CBs (not saying any of them are 2008 probowlers but they haven't really been liabilities which is something in their rookie year).

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5041952)
Also how can anyone say any of the Dlineman looked good? Cause they made a tackle a couple of times?

They got 0 pass rush no one even got close enough to breathe on Ryan and they got gashed in the run game again.

Tank Tyler, Turk McBride and Glen Dorsey all had good tackles and penetration.

Did it happen on every down? No. But they played hard and for the most part, played well.

Dude, this is essentially an Expansion Team. Period. If you look at it from that perspective, there's a lot of good things to find in today's performance.

oaklandhater 09-21-2008 03:52 PM

we only punted 5 times which is the least amount of times we have had to punt this year :)

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5041962)
Actually, the offense did markedly better in the 2nd half, although the game was already lost at that point so one must consider the entire 2nd half as "garbage time" stats.

That's outright ****ing bullshit.

Bull. ****ing. Shit.

The score was 31-14 when the Chiefs were on the 19 yard line. 31-17 is not "game over". Especially when they had another chance at the one, which would have put it at 31-24.

What a bunch of negative douchebaggery on this site.

el borracho 09-21-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5041946)
And he made a clutch reception.

Give credit where credit is due.

I'm not sure I noticed that but cheers to him!

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:54 PM

Most everyone thought even expecting us to be bad that we could beat the Falcons, when this happens this is what you get.

What you're doing is picking out a few positives against a team that will probably win 5 games, going "see look at this"

the Talking Can 09-21-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5041910)

Anything at all positive to report?

yeah, we didn't play Damon Huard

el borracho 09-21-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5041976)
The score was 31-14 when the Chiefs were on the 19 yard line. 31-17 is not "game over". Especially when they had another chance at the one, which would have put it at 31-24.

I guess you can call me negative but I just don't see our offense (as it is) putting up 30 points this year. Perhaps when Croyle returns but I wouldn't count on it.

RJ 09-21-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5041953)
I didn't see it that way.

The third quarter is where the running game and passing game exploded. If not for the missed field goal, this game may have turned out much differently. The missed opportunity for a TD at the goal line insured the loss.


How did they manage to avoid scoring from the goal line?

Logical 09-21-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5041936)
Give me a break, Dude.

Thigpen put the Chiefs in the red zone twice when they came up empty. One a field goal, the other on the one. LJ played well today. Flowers and Carr played well. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride played very well.

If Thigpen had a year under his belt instead of just one game, the Chiefs very well could have won this game. His inexperience is what hurt the Chiefs offense, aside from McInSuck & Jones.

No Dane Mecca is right, after NE that have been pretty much no bright spots other than Bowe, Gonzalez, and LJ this game. I know this is going to be hard to take, but I think the defense is worse than it was under Dick Vermiel.

gblowfish 09-21-2008 03:58 PM

It didn't rain...

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5041991)
I guess you can call me negative but I just don't see our offense (as it is) putting up 30 points this year. Perhaps when Croyle returns but I wouldn't count on it.

You should expect to be competitive against teams like Oakland and Atlanta when you have to try to pick out very small positives about the game against those teams, what is going to happen when they face a good team?

They are obviously much further behind this curve than even the most ardent person could have predicted. I don't think anyone expected to get abused in these 2 games...

Mecca 09-21-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5041995)
How did they manage to avoid scoring from the goal line?

They went for it on 4th down and LJ got tackled.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5041995)
How did they manage to avoid scoring from the goal line?

LJ on fourth and goal couldn't quite get in. He sure as hell tried.

Look guys, had it not been for the missed field goal and LJ's near TD miss, the Chiefs would have put up 24 points on the road.

That's a vast improvement over last week at Arrowhead.

Add to that, the team, especially the offense, NEVER GAVE UP.

So go ahead, be as negative as you'd like. You'd be missing out on a gutsy performance by a very young team that never quit.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:00 PM

You know who played gutsy today?

Cincy did, getting ass raped by the Falcons is not playing gutsy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-21-2008 04:01 PM

The offense did look significantly better in the second half.

However, this team still only shows up one unit at a team. The defense always comes to play in the first quarter, and then shits the bed thereafter, whereas it seems that Herm always scripts 15 thrusts of the butt sex offense to start us off.

RJ 09-21-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5041982)
Most everyone thought even expecting us to be bad that we could beat the Falcons, when this happens this is what you get.

What you're doing is picking out a few positives against a team that will probably win 5 games, going "see look at this"



In fairness, "see, look at this" is exactly what I was asking for. I wasn't expecting anyone to say we looked like a quality team that got some bad breaks.

FringeNC 09-21-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5041996)
No Dane Mecca is right, after NE that have been pretty much no bright spots other than Bowe, Gonzalez, and LJ this game. I know this is going to be hard to take, but I think the defense is worse than it was under Dick Vermiel.

Have any of Gun's FA signings worked out since his return?

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5041996)
No Dane Mecca is right, after NE that have been pretty much no bright spots other than Bowe, Gonzalez, and LJ this game. I know this is going to be hard to take, but I think the defense is worse than it was under Dick Vermiel.

You HAVE to look at the individual matchups this year. Their are WAY too many holes to judge the entire offense or the entire defense.

How do you expect the secondary to perform when they're constantly having to tackle running backs with a 20 yard head start? The linebackers are horrific. Absolutely horrific. We're starting and playing nearly four rookies and first year players (McBride, Tyler, Dorsey & Johnston).

Secondly, the offense has only ONE receiver, a horrific right side of the offensive line and a 7th round QB.

The fact that the Chiefs were actually in the game and never gave up is a great sign.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5042012)
The offense did look significantly better in the second half.

However, this team still only shows up one unit at a team. The defense always comes to play in the first quarter, and then shits the bed thereafter, whereas it seems that Herm always scripts 15 thrusts of the butt sex offense to start us off.

That's because the game is close, he has to be conservative when it's close.

The entire defense is like Derrick Johnson, they show up sometimes.

Logical 09-21-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5041966)
we only punted 5 times which is the least amount of times we have had to punt this year :)

OK I will concede this one.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042017)
You HAVE to look at the individual matchups this year. Their are WAY too many holes to judge the entire offense or the entire defense.

How do you expect the secondary to perform when they're constantly having to tackle running backs with a 20 yard head start? The linebackers are horrific. Absolutely horrific. We're starting and playing nearly four rookies and first year players (McBride, Tyler, Dorsey & Johnston).

Secondly, the offense has only ONE receiver, a horrific right side of the offensive line and a 7th round QB.

The fact that the Chiefs were actually in the game and never gave up is a great sign.

I'm sorry going down 24-0 scoring and threatening to score again does not make it "a game" we weren't playing the Cowboys here it's the Falcons.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042024)
I'm sorry going down 24-0 scoring and threatening to score again does not make it "a game" we weren't playing the Cowboys here it's the Falcons.

The Falcons are 2-1. What makes you think they're not a playoff team?

Logical 09-21-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5042015)
Have any of Gun's FA signings worked out since his return?

That would be pretty much a no, though Surtain has been adequate (hardly worth the money).

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042028)
The Falcons are 2-1. What makes you think they're not a playoff team?

They're other win is the Lions who are as we speak getting beat down by the 49ers...

We made the Falcons look like a Superbowl team.

el borracho 09-21-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042002)
You should expect to be competitive against teams like Oakland and Atlanta when you have to try to pick out very small positives about the game against those teams, what is going to happen when they face a good team?

They are obviously much further behind this curve than even the most ardent person could have predicted. I don't think anyone expected to get abused in these 2 games...

I did expect to be competetive the last two weeks. I was (and still am) livid at the decision-making last week and I was impossibly vexed by our performance early today but at the 24-0 point I just accepted we were going to lose. My hopes for this year: Chiefs win at least one game (don't care who), Carl and Herm get fired (and replaced with improvements at their respective jobs) and some of the young guys display something which gives reason to hope for next year and beyond. Anything else (Gonzalez breaking a record, perhaps) will be a bonus.

Boon 09-21-2008 04:09 PM

Colquitt looked pretty good again.

Logical 09-21-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042017)
You HAVE to look at the individual matchups this year. Their are WAY too many holes to judge the entire offense or the entire defense.

How do you expect the secondary to perform when they're constantly having to tackle running backs with a 20 yard head start? The linebackers are horrific. Absolutely horrific. We're starting and playing nearly four rookies and first year players (McBride, Tyler, Dorsey & Johnston).

Secondly, the offense has only ONE receiver, a horrific right side of the offensive line and a 7th round QB.

The fact that the Chiefs were actually in the game and never gave up is a great sign.

Sorry you and I don't see it the same way. I see a team that won't be competitive next year. I also don't think we were in this game (JMHO).

Skip Towne 09-21-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5041996)
No Dane Mecca is right, after NE that have been pretty much no bright spots other than Bowe, Gonzalez, and LJ this game. I know this is going to be hard to take, but I think the defense is worse than it was under Dick Vermiel.

Yep, this game reminded me of the Tiki Barber game.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:11 PM

Oh and another thing, Pollard and Page suck ass.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5042051)
Sorry you and I don't see it the same way. I see a team that won't be competitive next year. I also don't think we were in this game (JMHO).

IF the score had been 31-24, the Chiefs absolutely would have been in the game.

There's no excuse for a 26 yard field goal miss or not punching it in on 4th and one.

HonestChieffan 09-21-2008 04:13 PM

I worked through the game, heard zero, and listened to the recap on 101 on my way home. There is no bright spots when you can't stop a run, your offence in non existant, and the special teams seem to show up all but about 20% of the plays but blow big when they do. We suck. Herm Sucks. Carl sucks.

Logical 09-21-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5042038)
I did expect to be competetive the last two weeks. I was (and still am) livid at the decision-making last week and I was impossibly vexed by our performance early today but at the 24-0 point I just accepted we were going to lose. My hopes for this year: Chiefs win at least one game (don't care who), Carl and Herm get fired (and replaced with improvements at their respective jobs) and some of the young guys display something which gives reason to hope for next year and beyond. Anything else (Gonzalez breaking a record, perhaps) will be a bonus.

Rep, I agree.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:15 PM

The Chiefs in 2 straight weeks played teams with young QB's that ran alot and didn't pass much and they still couldn't defend the run.....

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 5042061)
I worked through the game, heard zero, and listened to the recap on 101 on my way home.



Expert analysis by a Chiefs fan!


Jesus ****ing Christ

Logical 09-21-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042059)
IF the score had been 31-24, the Chiefs absolutely would have been in the game.

There's no excuse for a 26 yard field goal miss or not punching it in on 4th and one.

Sure there is, you have a kicker, who at best is subpar and you have a poor offensive line.

el borracho 09-21-2008 04:17 PM

Linebackers are a must this coming offseason. Thomas is incredibly bad.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042074)
Expert analysis by a Chiefs fan!


Jesus ****ing Christ

What's gonna happen when they play an actual team that is balanced? So far the Raiders are the best defense we've played and no team has really been balanced since Brady got injured....

Logical 09-21-2008 04:18 PM

Dane, I salute your optimism in the face of overwhelming negatives.:clap:

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042081)
What's gonna happen when they play an actual team that is balanced? So far the Raiders are the best defense we've played and no team has really been balanced since Brady got injured....

We will find out when Denver hangs 40 on us at Arrowhead....

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042081)
What's gonna happen when they play an actual team that is balanced? So far the Raiders are the best defense we've played and no team has really been balanced since Brady got injured....

Hey, I've never said the Chiefs will win more than 3 games this year. Actually, I think they'll be lucky to win one.

But that doesn't mean that are NO bright spots on either side of the line and that the players all suck. Far from it.

The Chiefs suffer from a severe lack of depth and talent at key positions. They can't turn over a roster in one offseason and expect to be a 10-6 team (as some people around here expected).

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042089)
We will find out when Denver hangs 40 on us at Arrowhead....

I can't wait for next weeks positives after Denver puts up 500 total yards.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042089)
We will find out when Denver hangs 40 on us at Arrowhead....

Big deal. They've been hanging more than that on the Chiefs for years. And that was with old, crusty, POS veterans.

That's nothing new.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042091)
Hey, I've never said the Chiefs will win more than 3 games this year. Actually, I think they'll be lucky to win one.

But that doesn't mean that are NO bright spots on either side of the line and that the players all suck. Far from it.

The Chiefs suffer from a severe lack of depth and talent at key positions. They can't turn over a roster in one offseason and expect to be a 10-6 team (as some people around here expected).

I expect the players especially ones who aren't in their first year to atleast play like they know what they're doing, our safeties are still complete idiots.

Derrick Johnson still disappears and does stupid shit, I know McBride will never be a top notch pass rusher but for the love of christ his single **** up caused a 50 yard run.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042099)
I expect the players especially ones who aren't in their first year to atleast play like they know what they're doing, our safeties are still complete idiots.

Derrick Johnson still disappears and does stupid shit, I know McBride will never be a top notch pass rusher but for the love of christ his single **** up caused a 50 yard run.

I'm with you on DJ. He's nothing more than an average LB and that's probably all he'll ever be.

As for Turk, he made a mistake but it's magnified when your linebackers suck.

Mecca 09-21-2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042102)
I'm with you on DJ. He's nothing more than an average LB and that's probably all he'll ever be.

As for Turk, he made a mistake but it's magnified when your linebackers suck.

McBride ****ed up and then Johnson did too.......I'm sorry for everyone on this board who loves DJ, he's exactly what he was in college an athletic guy who's undisciplined undercoached and in college that made him a playmaker in the NFL on most days that means the other team will take advantage of him.

He needs to learn how to play his position, either he has the IQ of 5 or he lacks dedication one or the other.

PastorMikH 09-21-2008 04:28 PM

Did anyone mention the bright spot about our punter? He made the longest play of the day, punting right around the endzone all the way past the 50 where the falcon muffed it and was recovered by us.

Skip Towne 09-21-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5042124)
Did anyone mention the bright spot about our punter? He made the longest play of the day, punting right around the endzone all the way past the 50 where the falcon muffed it and was recovered by us.

That was a great knuckleball Colquitt served up.

Friendo 09-21-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042113)
McBride ****ed up and then Johnson did too.......I'm sorry for everyone on this board who loves DJ, he's exactly what he was in college an athletic guy who's undisciplined undercoached and in college that made him a playmaker in the NFL on most days that means the other team will take advantage of him.

He needs to learn how to play his position, either he has the IQ of 5 or he lacks dedication one or the other.

seems to be a theme with many of Mack Brown's players

blueballs 09-21-2008 04:46 PM

Jamal Charles can Reggie Bush Denver

FAX 09-21-2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042006)
... Add to that, the team, especially the offense, NEVER GAVE UP. So go ahead, be as negative as you'd like. You'd be missing out on a gutsy performance by a very young team that never quit.

I see this as a real positive. They had every right and reason to phone in the second half and they didn't. Atlanta may have been backing off a bit after they acquired the first big lead, but considering Thiggy's performance up to that point, that's almost beside the point. I'm sure they tightened up the defense after we scored the second touchdown and we still moved the ball. By that time, of course, I'm sure the defense was on their last legs.

One of the main things I wanted to see this year was a team that fought and scrapped right up to the final whistle and they did. Prop things are due to them for that.

FAX

New Yorker 09-21-2008 05:15 PM

I know how you guys feel. All I can really say is, "Welcome To Jets Football".

Halfcan 09-21-2008 05:23 PM

The only brightspot this year is that Sliver Spoons Hunt put a ton of money in his pocket.

teedubya 09-21-2008 05:24 PM

The positive is, that next sunday I wont have to watch this shitpile team.

RJ 09-21-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5042038)
I did expect to be competetive the last two weeks. I was (and still am) livid at the decision-making last week and I was impossibly vexed by our performance early today but at the 24-0 point I just accepted we were going to lose. My hopes for this year: Chiefs win at least one game (don't care who), Carl and Herm get fired (and replaced with improvements at their respective jobs) and some of the young guys display something which gives reason to hope for next year and beyond. Anything else (Gonzalez breaking a record, perhaps) will be a bonus.


I could live with that.

harpes 09-21-2008 05:33 PM

One last game to watch this year.

Chief Faithful 09-21-2008 05:41 PM

I just got back from the game and I'm not nearly as down on the team as many on the Planet seem to be. Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Carr and all the other rookies looked really good. All of Herms draft picks on the field looked really good.

The players that looked poor were McIntoad, Jones, Darling, and Pigpen. Out of that group only Pigpen looks like he might become a better player.

I believe by mid-season this team is going to start looking pretty good.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5042385)
I just got back from the game and I'm not nearly as down on the team as many on the Planet seem to be. Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Carr and all the other rookies looked really good. All of Herms draft picks on the field looked really good.

The players that looked poor were McIntoad, Jones, Darling, and Pigpen. Out of that group only Pigpen looks like he might become a better player.

I believe by mid-season this team is going to start looking pretty good.

Thank you.

I've been saying this all day.

Seemingly to deaf ears.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042409)
Thank you.

I've been saying this all day.

Seemingly to deaf ears.


No it hasnt fell on deaf ears.... What is strange, is how you fail to address the previous two years of draft picks.. Its like you are giving Herm a free pass up until opening week of this season.

Most of us are looking at the over all picture, not just this years "full-blown rebuilding" that you are only focusing on...

Mecca 09-21-2008 06:05 PM

I thought Albert was up and down, the CB's looked solid..but no all of Herm's picks didn't look solid because Hali, Page and Pollard were complete shit.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042450)
No it hasnt fell on deaf ears.... What is strange, is how you fail to address the previous two years of draft picks.. Its like you are giving Herm a free pass up until opening week of this season.

Most of us are looking at the over all picture, not just this years "full-blown rebuilding" that you are only focusing on...

Fail to address? Excuse me?

I've made multiple comments about the 2007 & 2008 draft for the past 18 months.

It's not my fault that you haven't read every post.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042466)
Fail to address? Excuse me?

I've made multiple comments about the 2007 & 2008 draft for the past 18 months.

It's not my fault that you haven't read every post.

Easy D-Mac....

I am just yanking your chain.... :D

Logical 09-21-2008 06:13 PM

By the way the coaching on this team could not be worse. Gun known for producing Linebackers is a miserable failure. Not really a surprise to me. We have no one who can coach young players at QB. I think Herm is controlling the shots on Offense so I lay the blame there. Not sure what to think of the Offensive coordinator.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5042492)
By the way the coaching on this team could not be worse. Gun known for producing Linebackers is a miserable failure. Not really a surprise to me. We have no one who can coach young players at QB. I think Herm is controlling the shots on Offense so I lay the blame there. Not sure what to think of the Offensive coordinator.

Gailey is Hermcuffed to the max....

This is Herms offense, same one he has ran for the last 7 years...


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