Glazer: KC called Cleveland regarding Quinn.
 

Just reported it on FOX NFL Sunday...NO LINK. Hmmmm.

Hmm...and cleveland said hell no probably....

Lets hope Derek Anderson starts to do something, and i wouldn't trade our 1st for Quinn

And they probably laughed.

Link?

Did he also report that Phil Savage laughed hysterically when Carl told him the reason for the call?

Said the rebuffed them. Probably a low-ball offer anyways.

LINK? NO. It was live TV.

Maybe they were calling about Quinn Gray and called the wrong number.

I'd give our #1 overall for Quinn...

No doubt in my mind. I like him better than Stafford, and we won't have to pay him Tom Brady money.

Logistically speaking, it makes PERFECT sense. He'll have learned the ropes for two years, and he's being paid as a late 1st round pick, rather than an elite QB (like we'd have to pay if we took one #1 overall)...

I'd give our 1st and 4th without flinching.

We can most likely get a BETTER QB with our number one overall pick next year. We need to ride out this season with what we have.

Cleveland would be smart to take your #1 pick, plus lets say a #5. Chances are its going to be a really low pick.

whoa

It'd be the first time we ever traded for a b/u with POTENTIAL...

I like him more now than I did coming out of college. Without him, ND has been awful. I'd make that trade, but Cleveland won't.

I agree with you.

They've made the investment for Anderson.

I think we'd have to give a 1 and a 3, but I'd do that.

Don't let Tribal Warfare see this.

His heart might explode.

Since when is a late first round unproven QB worth two picks?

Don't be shy, just say it.

We are going to get that #1 overall.

Exactly.

We get a top notch QB potentially, but we're paying him like a #21 overall pick, rather than a #1 overall pick. Matt Ryan makes more than Tom Brady.

We're not getting Quinn for anything less than what the Vikings paid for Jared Allen.

A high 1st and a 3rd for Quinn makes sense for this franchise.

Me too. I would jump on that like a fat chick on a donut.

Not normally but if you think about it in terms of MONEY think about this: IF we get the number one pick next year and pick up, say, Stafford from UGA how much money will HE be making? Dollar for dollar I would take Quinn.

Everyone knows Brady Quinn was a top 5 pick that fell...

Would you take Aaron Rodgers for our 1st next season?

Exactly.

We are most likely giving up a top five pick for a player who has just as many question marks as a rookie and he's older-no thanks.

I like Quinn, but i wouldnt give a first rounder. Not when the Chiefs can potentially pick number 1 in the draft. A 2 and a 5 maybe.

Yeah, see if they'll take LJ and a #2.

With Dick Curl on board, there is no hope for the future.

Only because from a potential standpoint, they are both very similar.

Except Stafford will get $40M guaranteed.

I'm not sold on getting rid of a top 5 pick, now if it was in the 13-20 range sure, but we all know we arent going to win more than 4 games. I won't bitch if we trade for Quinn though

older?! Haha. He's what, 25??

Yeah, we'll get a top pick and if we use it on a QB we're going to commit $40M guaranteed...

I'll take Quinn and his 5 year, $9M contract and potential to be a franchise QB over our #1 overall and a 3rd round pick.

There is no difference between LJ and Jamal Lewis...other than the fact Jamal Lewis might be better.

The great thing is that Quinn has received some actual NFL coaching for two years already.

It doesn't matter who we bring in as a QB as long as Herm and Dick Curl are here.

How hard is it to hand off up the middle twice, throw a swing pass and go sit on the bench as the punter trots out onto the field?

Leave it up to Hootie for something crazy.

We could have Sam Bradford and a quality RG instead. You don't rebuild giving up draft picks for a 25 year old QB with just as many question marks as a rookie, IMO, especially behind this O-Line.

What does this franchise need more than anything? A QB.

If we land the #1 overall (which is likely), who will we draft? Probably Stafford.

Do you guys really like Stafford ($40M guaranteed) more than Quinn (5 years, $9M)...?

Not me. They have similar potential if you ask me. Quinn has learned what life is like in the NFL for two years and is a hell of a QB...I'd be ecstatic if we got him for a 1st and a 2nd...

He is the most logic piece for this franchise...nothing makes more sense than doing anything possible to acquire Brady Quinn.

I just don't see see it no way is quin worth a number one pick to a rebuilding franchise.

I was thinking LJ was younger than Jamal, but he's really not. I forgot how early Jamal came out from Tennessee.

Of course LJ does have less wear on the tire and has not been to federal prison, so there are some differences for you.

The Browns aren't giving this guy up for less than they paid.

They gave up a #1 to get him.

If you want him, you have to go above that 1.

Just so I'm clear, do all the anti-Quinn people want to spend that #1 that they wouldn't spend on Quinn on a QB?

I rather have Rey Mualuaga.

We could pay a QB like Tom Brady that has the same potential as Brady Quinn and hold on to that 3rd round pick and draft Brad Cottam.

Yaaay.

The thing is they will. If Derrick Anderson is a stud. They will want to get something from Quinn. Why would they have their number 1 pick just sit there and rott? in the end it hurts them more then anything else.

Letting Dick Curl coach a top flight QB is like letting Hootie work on your Maserati.

Yes, either this or we could trade back up into the first to get a QB about the spot where Quin or Rodgers dropped to.

I understand that they want a #1, but not THE #1, which is probably what we'll have. Maybe we need to package some of our other picks or players and get a mid 1st rounder to trade.

I only agree if our rebuilding franchise doesn't plan on drafting a QB with our top 5 pick.

If we take Oher, I'm fine with passing on Quinn and taking a QB in 2009.

If we take Stafford, or Bradford, or Sanchez or whoever in the top 5...and pay them like Tom Brady...if we had a CHANCE at Quinn and passed because we wanted one of these guys instead I won't be happy.

I'm not sold that Stafford will be the first QB taken next year.

Because he's a young QB under an inexpensive rookie contract?

Brady Quinn is only 24 years old.

I forgot though, everyone we are rebuilding with must be a rookie to have success.

Let's pray to God that Derek Anderson works out...because if the Browns start out 0-4, we can kiss our Brady Quinn dream goodbye.

I'd be very surprised if Cleveland takes anything less than the equivalent of the Chiefs' first round pick for Quinn.

That may be a second rounder and a player or two, but I really don't think the Chiefs have any players to offer that the Browns — or anyone else — would be interested in.

Hey, how 'bout that Sippio! guy? Is he still available? I've read here that he's the next coming of Jerry Rice or something.

Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez...whatever.

I'd rather have Quinn, his experience, his contract over any of those three...regardless of how BIG their arms (most overrated aspect of a QB) might be.

Yeah.

I don't like giving away a top 5 pick though.

Perhaps some way to swap picks.

We have 2 QB's going into ATL. Our 3rd stringer Ingle Martin isn't even on the active roster. That's all I need to know about our QB situation. Maybe they can hike it to LJ every single play.

People aren't looking at this the right way.

If you're on the 'I want the top 5 pick because I want a LT, MLB, WR, blah blah blah playmaker', I'm ok with that.

But if we're keeping a top 5 pick because you want a QB...you're on crack if you wouldn't trade that for Quinn. He makes way more sense than drafting a QB that high next year.

You overestimate "Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou, Romeo?" and his staff.

Dont be a tard. No one thought sippio was Rice. People just wanted him to succeed becuase he was a good story. Chapter closed though.

There is no point in having a first rounder sit back up while you can get something decent for him. ANderson is young, its not like Rodgers in Green Bay.

This does make alot of sense. If we pick a QB top 3 this year, were gonna have to pay him way more than quinn, and I think Quinn is the better prospect, and has had time to catch up to the game. Its like hes been sitting on our bench waiting to come in, and if we could pick up a lineman or two, quinn to bowe could go into effect.

I guess I fail to see the difference in "giving away" a pick for a QB, or drafting one in the top 5.

The cap savings would be about 40 million.

I'm sorry, I'm just not a fan of paying a QB like Tom Brady when he's never played an NFL down.

Give me Quinn and his $9M contract. You can have our #1.

Nobody likes Maualuga more than me, but this is now, more than ever, a QB driven league.

I'd trade for Quinn and hope that Brandon Spikes declares and is sitting there at the top of the second.

Even without Spikes, I'm trading for Quinn.

i'd trade for Quinn ..... BUT NOT our 1st rounder


you don't trade the 1st pick of the draft for Brady Quinn :eek:

I am sick of some of the local radio stations because they keep slipping, and calling Croyle a rookie.

Unfortunately for us all we don't get to make this call. Carl will make this call so bet your ass it will be the wrong decision.

Yep, but drafting a middle linebacker like Rey would be a thing of beauty for this team. He has a lower chance to be a bust as compared to a QB. This team needs that defense turned around. No more ****ing Pat Thomas. lol

Here's the thing...

We trade our #1 for Quinn...Quinn flops...it doesn't set us back 5 years because the cap implications won't be shit.

We take a QB #1, he flops, we're *****ed for at least 5 years.

His experience.

Okay.

I must have missed all that NFL experience that Quinn has.

Then you're not getting Quinn.

Would you trade our 1st rounder for Aaron Rodgers?

Seriously. We need nothing more than a QB and Brady Quinn was supposed to go #3 overall to the Browns that year...the fact they landed Joe Thomas AND Brady Quinn is still unbelievable to me...

No.

I just think that Herman ****ing Edwards and his staff make Crennell and his staff look like Bill walsh and the 9er staff by comparison.

He has two years. Two years of learning how to be an NFL player.

Did wonders for Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.

And Alex Smith?

Actually, that's a pretty good guess as to how this whole thing goes down.

You must have missed the Browns game the other week when they kicked a field goal in the fourth to keep it a three score game.

He does have more NFL experience than any QB KC would draft...

And this offense doen't need to be turned around?

this is a good point

Alex Smith was thrown into the fire right away and threw 1 TD pass and 11 INT's his rookie year.

I don't understand the correlation.

Sure it does. So does the defense. I rather have a great defense and a average or even a little below average offense, over a good offense and a ok defense. WE have had a bad defense for so long that i rather that side of the ball get fixed first.

Good. I'd love to have Quinn. If Cleveland doesn't want to deal, we should call Arizona about Leinart

I dont mind if they try to sign Smith next year, but do NOT hand him a starting spot.

He does have three years of nfl experience. Lot of good that does him.

Youre dead on, on this. Its the right move.

We´ll still be picking right at the top of the 2nd.

btw .... don't give up on this Quinn thing yet

Anderson hasn't shown Cleveland enough yet, but look who they have play so far this season

Dallas
Pittsburgh


two of the toughest teams in the league with 2 very physical defenses.

it's not like Anderson looked crappy against the Faiders or something