I blame Vermeil.....
 

i wonder if fans for the jets are blaming Herm?

BS I blame CARL

I blame the media.

no wait .... i blame PETA

one more year
too many

I blame society.

The real culprit for how bare this team is talent wise is Vermeil's drafts.

You can't have a span of 3 years where you get 1 impact player and think you're just going to keep rolling along.

But I bet Ree-tardKC will be along to tell me how that's Herm's fault for not consulting with Vermeil during those drafts.

I blame Marv Levy...

I blame Clinton.

I blame the lead in the drinking water of a childhood Herman Edwards.

see ... so you agree with me


it is Vermeil's fault

I blame the Jews.

I blame Frank Ganz!

Damn him for only leaving us with Neil Smith and Okoye 20 years ago!!!

that is correct. DV sold this team out by aquiring upper aged vets through trades and FA, while doing that he failed to set himself up for the future.

He knew he was retiring in a few years and put all his eggs in his basket. He didnt care about the long term success of the chiefs. He only cared about his team and season at that time.


Still dont know why you think Herm should of consulted DV, that is a strange stretch...

Herm is looking ahead, something Carl has never done. No matter what, Herm will end his coaching career here in KC based on game day issues, not talent and players developed.

Well, how could I ever blame Herm? that was his team that went 10-6 last year, right? :shake:

DV's approach is to blame but that makes it Carls fault for not being smart and realizing how bad those picks were.

It was the dog

I hate big Dick.

FAX

Blame me , I keep renewing my tickets.

Vermeil loaded us up with 40 year olds he couldn't say no to, and promptly got the hell out of dodge.

Seriously, DV's drafts may have been bad. But the conversations of late regarding our draft history as an organization are on target. I don't know how other teams have faired in the draft (percentage wise), but we have to be at or near the bottom in picks that actually wind up contributing on the field and it's been that way throughout Carl's tenure. That's a whole lot of player careers that have gone nowhere.

FAX

Fire Carl!

Herm didn't seem to have a problem dealing/fixing Vermeil's leftovers on defense.

I blame global warming.

Gruden did the same thing in Oakland, loaded up the team with over the hill players and then darted for a super bowl ready team ;)

I got my fingers crossed that some super bowl ready team has their sights on our current head coach.

I blame you fans.
50,000 of you should have gone to Denver this week.
You don't support the team so you don't deserve to win.

Sincerely,
Percy Snow

and we should be blaming our current coaching staff/front office as well.


which was the point of the thread ;)

I blame Vermiel too. Damn him for spoiling us and giving us hope!!!

I blame DV/Carl for the mess we're in and Herm for having no idea how to clean it up.

I blame Michael Vick.

i blame eva mendez. but i'm not mad about it. :whackit:

Oh we were spoiled all right. 1 playoff loss in 5 years.

Yeah, Damn Dick Vermeil.
Damn him for only caring that he prove to the world that it was him, and not Mike Martz, who engineered the Rams breakout season and turnaround of 1999.

That was Dick's motivation for coaching again. It was all about his ego.

Damn Carl for not knowing his friend well enough to figure that one out.

Damn KC fans who still have not figured this one out, and who continue to worship Dickie and spew hate at Herm, never realizing the irony.

I blame the BCS. :cuss:

I blame Nintendo

The Vermeil administration hurt this team.

We found just 4 productive players in 4 years through the NFL Draft.

That's coming back to haunt us now...

He baffled you with bullshit, that's all.

did vermeil decide that McIntosh and Chris Terry should be the OT's for us this year?

if not ..... then stop with the BS


our drafting has sucked for years

I blame Holmes for fumbling against Indy or else we would have been the ones ahead in the game of I score you score..

Yep, the draft record sucked long before Vermeil got here.

Of all the OL ****ed up decisions, I don't understand the Kyle Turley one. He had proven he sucked last year. He gained weight? So what, a pig does that very well.
I honestly thought Welbourn could handle his job, and think we all knew we needed a bigger center to run Herms nOffense.
I didn't know anything about Terry, even though he had been in the league quite a while.
However, I was concerned that Miami would let a LT go in MCintosh if he was worth a shit.

No, but Vermy forced us to not have the luxury to draft/sign offensive lineman that could take over when the aging crew inevitably retired. Because of his instistence to only see the here and now and for the offense only, to make his case that either he could build an offense as good as Martz built or that he in fact built the '99 Rams offense, we were forced to spend the majority of our resources on patching a defense.

Dickie left this team in sorry-ass shape for the future, and you can bet that if thought he could get anything else out of them, he would have stuck around. His "legend" would have been tarnished with what his offense turned into, though.

It's kind of funny in that Vermeil really not only ruined our defense, but also ruined our offense by not making it a priority to build for a future that he would not be around here for. Very convenient.

The decision to hire Vermeil set this franchise back a decade.

Carl should be fired today for that.

After watching the Dallas Detroit game this weekend I'm adding Solari to my blame list. Worst play calling I have ever witnessed.

Somebody is talking to themself. LMAO I would blame Herm for that.

I blame John Tait

It must fall on Carl. he's the ultimate answer man as GM.

the cast of characters that can't draft or eval talent, or coach hasn't helped.

You're probably right.

I do blame Herm for the bruises to my head the past two years for all the play calls that have left me banging my head against a concrete wall.

I'm thinking that's the cause.

To be completely fair, isn't that exactly what a Head Coaches job is?

The responsibility for the long term health of the franchise is the Owners and GM's.

A head coaches job is on the line every season.

Herm sucks already. I can't believe anyone would defend this guy.

I'm not defending him. I don't like Herm more than I like him. But I realize the bad position he was put in by taking this job. Vermeil pretty much guaranteed that his successor would fall on hard times.

It's like the pro-Brodie crowd (I'm pretty nuetral on the Brodie issue - don't really know what he is) likes to say - you can't judge Brodie behind this offensive line.

Well, you can't judge Herm behind the crappy position Vermeil left this team in. Herm is sure putting his mark on this team, but he can only do so much each year cleaning up after the Vermeil era.

If you can't throw Brodie under the bus because of the offensive line, then logic argues you can't throw Herm under the bus because of the team he inherited as well.

Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!

Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?

Sheila: No, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada

Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies

Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canada's fault!

Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the damn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!

Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to **** myself!

Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada

Sheila: It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along

Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Copy Guy: They're not even a real country anyway

Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue

Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?

Sheila: heck no!

Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Sheila: With all their hockey hullabaloo
Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too

Everyone: Blame Canada

Shame on Canada
For...
The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!

If DV didn't score so many points there would still be some left over for herm you know.

:clap::clap: My thoughts exactly!!

fine ... then when do we gain the right to hold Herm responsible for the team that he puts on the field ... 2009,2010??

lemme guess, the year after Herm leaves he will be responsible for the team on the field .... just in time for people to give the new coach a pass by blaming Herm. :banghead:

So far the only mark Herm has left is a skid mark. He completely killed the offense and special teams and the defense is no better than Vermeil's final year.