Let's be realistic, what will it accomplish if Carl is to be fired after the season?
 

I am no fan of Peterson. I just don't see the wide spread change prancing in the minds of Chief fans

A chance to get out of this 18 year purgatory called mediocrity

Do you even have to ask?

Hope.

Let's get a real GM in here that's KNOWS player personel. Let that be his sole function-to assemble the best tesam possible. Build through the draft. Have a DEFINITIVE PLAN. No more let's merge the President and GM as the same person. It's CLEARLY a conflict of interest. Money will always outweigh the decision making process of keeping skilled players. Carl has had 19 freaking years. NINETEEN. Why is that not sinking in with some of you?

Thats a dumb question.

in this can assuming Change for the better....

he had his chance. Clark needs to take control.

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Apparently that's the theme because as I read the topic, that's the 1st word that poped into my head.

After 19 years he has had his chance. Time for new blood. The Gleem is gone.

Well that isn't going to happen but, if it did happen, I would expect a new head coach and an all new coaching staff.

This is a stupid question. 19 years with 1 season of winning a playoff game should be enough to get any GM fired.

To answer the question; to change a bad situation? :shrug:

DUH!!!

realistically? let's say it will accomplish just giving us some sort of hope that things might improve. Carl stays...eh...things stay the same.

I see nothing concrete

Because change is good?

What have we got with 19 years of Carl?

I can see the Croyle over Huard because there is an alternative.

I also want Peterson gone, but I don't see the clouds all the sudden opening up over Arrowhead & the sun breaking out.

~anything other than Carl is rather lame reasoning

For me, the biggest thing would be.....it "COULD" be the beginning of a house-cleaning and a REAL "rebuilding" of the team.

The sooner the better, afaic. :shrug:

And it won't start until Carl in gone, IMHO. :cuss:

Chicken Salad into Chicken Shit :banghead:

Carl let his ego get to big. Class A example is John Tait not a member of this team.

19 years of no Super Bowl visits, let alone victories. We haven't WON a playoff game in FOURTEEN YEARS. He's the longest tenured GM in all of sports, not just the NFL-ALL of PROFESSIONAL SPORTS and you see nothing concrete against Carl? :rolleyes:

A new head coach and an all-new coaching staff most definitely would be something concrete.

it seems like all we get as coaches are petersons lap dogs.

I nominate this thread for the "KNUMBNUTS THREAD OF THE YEAR" award.

"Let's be realistic, what will it accomplish if Carl is to be fired after the season?"

Realistic? The only things it accomplishes is;

That "dammit carl" shirt guy suffers a sales drop, significantly.
The posters here will have one less thing to bitch about.
mmm, yeah - that's about it.

I doubt Carl would be fired if he was killing Michael Vick's pitbulls with OJ's knife set, as long as the profit margin is on par.

carl isn't going anywhere until his contract runs out...unfortunately.

Damn, folks! I didn't realize CrazyCoffey was Carl's mom. :hmmm:


Welcome to the board!!! :thumb:







P.S. -- Your son needs to investigate a career in the insurance industry. ;)

FOUL! Bad call. [/throws Red Flag] I need a review, this post looks like a penalty.....




After further review of the post, there isn't enough evidence to over turn the ruling on the field, CC is now a Bitch..... [/official review]

Thanks alot Kotter....

CC tried to answer the question

Well then you are just a dumbshit, and nothing more needs to be said.

Because a new GM would sit down and make a concerted effort to evaluate all potential coaches before hiring them. A new GM might be willing to take the best player available in the draft instead of so many projects and reaches. A new GM might be willing to let a vet walk if the result gives a younger, hungrier player to fill that spot.

LMAO

ROFL :clap:

Someone doesn't get it.

Perhaps there will not be a wide spread change. But at least we will be going in a different direction without Carl at the helm. We have been going in the same direction for 19 years and it isn't working.

King Carl is embarssed easily. He might not care but it still irks the hell out of him.

We should get together and chant Fire King Carl! Fire King Carl! Fire King Carl! at games.

It might give us a chance to appear in, or possibly even win, a Super Bowl.

Come on. The Chiefs won playoff games in 1991, 1993, Jan-1994.

I've though about this a lot, what do Chiefs fans want? To go to the AFC Champ. Game or the Super Bowl every year? Most fans have very unrealistic expectations. It's just not possible. What we've seen the Patriots do is quite remarkable. Jerry Jones won 3 titles in the early 90's and then what? CP has had 13 winning seasons out of 18. He's had a team go to the playoff half of those years. Only six other teams have more appearances than that. The guy's home record since he's been here is tied for the best with Denver at 107-37. He's compiled a winning percentage of 68%. Just playing devil's advocate.

Obviously firing Carl would be just the first part of the equation. The second part would be replacing him with a GM who can accomplish what Carl has failed to accomplish in nearly 20 years which is to build a complete team that can compete for the Super Bowl.

My choice would be to throw as much $$$ at Scott Pioli and try to lure him to KC. The Chiefs are actually a desirable situation for a GM when you consider that you have an owner who is going to stay out of the way and provide the $$$ needed to compete in free agency, a rabid fanbase and nearly $300 million in renovations on the way to Arrowhead.

I expect this team to be IN the AFC Championship game or IN the Super Bowl at least once in those 19 years.

Other GMs get canned for not accomplishing their mission, which is to win the entire damn thing at least once.

As it stands, right now, the <b>best</b> thing about Carl going would be the hope that things would get better. Because right now, even long time homers like me are starting to get awfully cranky about this organization.

I love the Chiefs
I hate the current Chiefs management from the GM all the way down to the position coaches. I want someone to come in and clean house, start fresh and do something different because Carl and Co have shown they can't.

Change is the key word. Change is enough for me.

Change
Change
Change

ya something has to give. 19 yrs under CP and with a small handfull of playoff wins and the last one being what in 1993? Christ

got a little change in your pocket, going jinga linga ling.....

People are setting themselves up for a great disappointment.

Carl's replacement has already been decided.

Bill Kuharich will take over the GM duties and Denny Thum will take over the title of President.

Mark my words.

Uh, you're joking right?

It would accomplish nothing - the underlying, inescapable problem with this team is it's fan base.....any foo' can see that!!

Now I REALLY don't like you. :cuss: :)

He is probably right though..

Truth sucks, doesn't it?

Then Kuharick will trade a whole draft for one player...

And every other team in the AFC West has been to the super bowl more recently than us. I believe we have the 3rd longest playoff win drought in the NFL.

It's not that we expect to be great every year. We simply expect to be at least average on a year to year basis. We don't even have that. We have been below average during Carl's tenure as GM.

Who knows. Lamar Hunt was the owner when Kuharich was hired. Perhaps Clark Hunt has a slightly different plan in mind than his father did.

With every failure run off just means the franchise is that much closer to hiring somebody good. So if they already front office replacements in place and they aren't any good then lets get them in place as soon as possible so they can be fired also.

If you want change really hope the Chiefs really suck and become a laughing stock, that'll do it.

Pioli had an offer on the table from the New York Giants, a team he grew up following and a team that lives just mintues from where he grew up and where his parents live now. They also offered him more money than New England.

But he decided to stay there.

Pioli isn't leaving.

Denny Thum as President would be fine. He is one of the best NFL executives on the business side. I would hope they go out of the organization for the football side though.

The Chiefs not hire someone from their good old boy network?

That's probably more of a dream than Carl and Herm being gone after this year.

Truth.

Then we hire Marty in the same capacity as Marv Levy in Buffalo.

DT

Let's be realistic, what will it accomplish if a cure is found for cancer?

It's mob blood lust with no thoughts beyond the carnage

No, basically, its us giving you our reasons, but they don't match up with what you want to hear, so you're stating that everyone else's opinions aren't important.

Just without the gratuitous insults thrown in.

:Poke:

New direction. Hope that a 14 year playoff victory drought will end. Patchwork seasons, year after year, gone.

A simple answer: change. This team has been spinning in place for a long time. Time for new direction.

The question isn't "Let's be realistic, what will it accomplish if Carl is to be fired after the season?", it's "Let's be realistic, what will it accomplish if Carl is still the GM after the season?".

Instead of www.firepeterson.com try www.hireCowher-asCoach/GM.com or www.BillParcells.com ect. A plan man, a plan.

Run off George W Bush as President, don't matter who will replace him. Just run off GW. Bad plan

Let's face it. Clark Hunt isn't going to make any real, serious change at One Arrowhead Drive until he's bleeding out financially. Since Chiefs fans have proven to be blindly loyal, that isn't going to happen any time soon.

I've accepted the fact that nobody in the Hunt family is willing to do what it takes to win. Oh, sure they WANT to win, they just don't want to do what it takes to win. Sometimes to win you have to tell your loser friends to sit on the sidelines. They don't have that in them.

jeez - even politicians have term limits. There's a reason for this. Unfortunately you can't fire the owner. I still have hope the Lamar jr. will do the right thing and rid KC of Carl.

Herm as GM may not be a bad plan. Who he would pick as the next head coach, is a little scary to think about though

The Dick Curl?

The Madd Bomber with Damon Huard as his QB, coming to an NFL arena near you

Does the Dick Curl left or right?